Is Barry Trotz to blame for Nashville's lack of scoring?
In a rare piece of local media criticism directed at the management of the Nashville Predators, David Boclair writes in the Nashville Scene that head coach Barry Trotz was largely to blame for the departure of Alexander Radulov, and openly questions whether he is the right man to develop the young offensive talent needed to succeed in the modern NHL.
This is a particularly critical issue in Nashville these days, as we prepare for the debut of Colin Wilson, the next great hope of the Predators organization. But is Boclair's criticism on target?
Basically, Boclair makes a two-pronged attack. First, charging that Trotz's coaching style was primarily to blame for Radulov leaving for Russia:
Radulov remains in Russia-and as a result, so does Nashville's best option for a long-term offensive solution.
Franchise officials will talk about transfer agreements, binding arbitration and the like. Then they'll throw up their arms and say there's nothing they can do.
The fact is, it's not what they should do, it's what they should have done. More to the point, it's what coach Barry Trotz should have done.
Back in 2007-08 (Radulov's one full NHL season) when he scored 26 goals and added 32 assists in 81 games, the young Russian forward touched off a league-wide debate with his exuberant goal celebrations.
Initially Trotz publicly supported Radulov because he said he believed the actions were "genuine." Eventually, though, the coach changed his approach, sided with some of the team's veteran players and worked to stifle the kid's antics. The talk was that Radulov needed to be more respectful and professional.
Trotz should have told his older players just to get the puck to Radulov and then simply to get out of the way every time the goal light came on.
Boclair, however, offers no support for the theory that Trotz was the major reason why Radulov left. He was due to make $900,000 in his next year of NHL action, and instead is making millions (tax free) in the KHL, so I'd be surprised if that didn't play a large role as well (not to mention greater opportunity with the Russian national team, which he led to a World Championship last spring).
Yes, the coach did conflict with Radulov over his celebrations, but let's not forget that one such outburst killed the team's playoff hopes in 2008 when he concussed Jason Arnott following the famous "2 goals in 9 seconds" against Detroit.
So maybe the coach was right, after all.
Trotz also insisted on getting Radulov to play within the team concept, something that's hardly unique within the NHL coaching fraternity. Nobody in their right mind would compare Radulov to Alexander Ovechkin in terms of being a generational talent that you build your team around. He has potential to be a 30-40 goal scorer, sure, but there have been no suggestions that he's a budding MVP candidate, worth setting aside the team concept and building the rest of your franchise around.
Rather than pin blame for the Radulov situation on the coach, however, I reserve more of my criticism for general manager David Poile, who was by all accounts blindsided by Radulov's move. What struck me about the whole scenario is that the Predators didn't bring in a senior Russian presence, either in the form of a veteran player or an assistant coach, to act as a mentor for Radulov, whose English was pretty limited. The linguistic and cultural barriers for a Russian in North America are still quite large, and so many organizations have been successful with their star Russian players by taking that mentoring approach (Detroit, Washington, Atlanta, and Pittsburgh all come to mind) that I wonder if Radulov felt isolated in Nashville, making the appeal of stardom back home all the more appealing. Certainly, the Predators front office was caught unawares when their star winger suddenly bolted for the KHL, a clear breakdown in communication.
Note: Mark from the View from 111 advises that the Preds did bring over Radulov's parents for the latter part of the 2007-8 season to help with his adjustment to North American life, but what I'm referring to is a member of the organization having a close working relationship.
Boclair's second charge, that Trotz may not be able to develop young talent in general, is perhaps more relevant to the current situation:
The truth is that Trotz has not shown a knack for coaching the most gifted of players. Arguably his worst performance as Predators' coach came in 2006-07-when the franchise had more overall and top-end talent than at any time, yet managed just one playoff victory.
Historically, he has gotten the most out of teams with the lowest expectations. That makes him the right guy for right now, because few around North America think too much of this year's lineup.
I think it's a bit unfair to call the 2006-07 season Trotz's worst performance; the team had a franchise-best regular season and contended for the Presidents Trophy down to the final days of the campaign. Yes, despite the injuries that hit the team the first-round playoff loss was a disappointment, but to date that's the only Predators team that truly underachieved in the post-season.
That said, however, the handling of rookie forward Colin Wilson will bear close scrutiny. With high-dollar free agents off the menu, Nashville's best hope for greater goal-scoring lies in the development of, and opportunity given to, elite young talent like Wilson.
Hey, if Pekka Rinne can't even get a confident nod as the starter in Game #1, I don 't suppose we should give the coach a free pass when it comes to lifting the Preds back into the playoffs, and beyond the first round for once.
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Radulov wasn’t exactly new to North America in his time with the Preds – he did after all spend a couple of years playing junior in Canada, so there shouldn’t have been too much culture shock.
As for mentors, he did have Vishnevsky for part of that 2006-07 season.
I think the more likely scenario is that he was getting some bad advice from his Russian agent, who was more focused on the immediate returns than anything further down the line. I still think it’s possible that Radulov will return at some point when he realizes this.
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by PRC on Oct 1, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Of course, his junior days were in Quebec, so I’m not sure how much that helped him in terms of acclimating to Middle Tennessee…
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by Dirk Hoag on Oct 1, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One more thing
The other thing everyone seems to leave out in conversations about Radulov is the coaching he received prior to his NHL/AHL days. Like many star players, he lived with his coach in juniors (see: Sidney Crosby who still lives with Uncle Mario). But his coach in juniors, who he lived with the entire time: Patrick Roy. You know, the firebrand nut job (if insanley talented) former goalie. The one who has had both of his sons suspended (and in one case charges were pressed) for dirty play on the ice. Not exactly the role model you want for your budding star.
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by pwnicholson on Oct 1, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously...
Read this section of Roy’s bio on wikipedia. You can’t tell me living with this guy for a year or more wouldn’t affect a young player’s mental state – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Roy#Post_retirement
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by pwnicholson on Oct 1, 2009 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, but Trotz not at fault for Radulov...
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by SLake on Oct 1, 2009 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Radulov decided to run home to play. Blaming anyone else for Radulov’s decision is absolute bovine excrement. If getting told to play defense and tone down the celebrations is too much, grow up. Part of the problem is that Rads thinks he’s better and more indispensable than he is.
Trotz is and will always be a defense first coach. The system trumps the individual, which is usually a good thing in a team environment. We’re never going to see him give a player free reign to do whatever they want offensively at the expense of structured team play. That said ….. Rads came in and put up 26g in his one full season. Hartnell performed relatively well while here with two 20g seasons. Adam Hall averaged about 15g per season under Trotz ….. Hall?!?!?!?!?!? Dumont with a career best in Nashville … Arnott tying his career high for goals scored …. Sully’s performance … Kariya regained his form while here. But Trotz never does anything offensively.
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by 101st on Oct 1, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Radulov was at fault for Radulov. Alex was blessed with a ton of G-d given offensive talent that made him a special player, but he was cursed with the free pass he was given due to that talent all his life as well and eventually left to go somewhere where he was promised the superstar treatment he would never receive here in North America because ultimately his talent was limited to one area and he lacked a complete game.
During his time here I saw four different Predator coaches (Trotz, Peterson, Horachek, and Korn) take a wide array of approaches with Radulov, but all ultimately were eventually pushed to the point of chastising him when they were met with a self-centered, immature, and disrespectful response.
I witnessed Radulov openly mock coaches and teammates alike behind their backs at practice when criticized for any number of things. Never was this done playfully either, it was done in an “I’m better than you” attitude and lead to many stares and glares from his teammates that could only have served to isolate him even more from the team.
Sure there was a flip-flop on the message regarding his celebrations, but I strongly believe that was due to his immaturity and selfish behavior. I believe that when he was giving the “green light” he took that as a sign that the individual was greater than the team and played right into his “me, me, me” persona. I believe that the message changed when he was needed to be reined in to avoid the situation getting totally out of control. His celebration that knocked Arnott out of the playoffs was a genuine display of emotion that became reckless when he jumped into a teammate that wasn’t expecting the celebration. There were definitely hard feelings about that, but I think ultimately that it would be forgiven with time and a little realization (remorse) on his behalf due to the outcome.
Bottom line, Radulov was never stunted by Trotz or anyone else within the organization, he was limited due to his own demons that were developed a long time before he arrived in Nashville that he never really seemed to shake.
Radulov maintained discussions with the organization throughout last season and talked with Poile again regarding returning to the team, bottom line however is that he made his bed by jumping ship to Russia and is now stuck there until his contract expires. I believe that he will have serious discussions about returning to the NHL when his KHL contract expires, but there is still a lot of time and a lot of hockey to be played between now and then…
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by SLake on Oct 1, 2009 11:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OOOPS ... MY BAD
I forgot that Trotz is responsible for everything from global climate change to impending collisions with an asteroid. Of course we blame Trotz for the actions of an immature, egotistical kid.
by 101st on Oct 2, 2009 12:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've Been Critical of Trotz as Well, But...
I agree with SLake and Dirk in that this is probably more Radulov’s immaturity than Barry Trotz. SLake’s observations are especially telling.
My criticisms of Coach Trotz in the past has been his inability to consistently ice an effective power play, even during 06-07.
It’s hard to judge Trotz in the case of Radulov due to Radulov’s obvious immaturity. It’s also hard to talk about developing offensive talent as Radulov is really the first young player that Nashville has drafted that highly touted offensively that could create on his own.
Even if Trotz is not the best at developing young offensive talent, I’m less concerned in the case of Colin Wilson. Wilson is a Trotz-type player with loads of skill. He’s a two-way player with a lot of maturity. He should flourish under Trotz’s tutelage- and the small amount of time we saw him in camp and preseason seems to bear that out.
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by David Singleton on Oct 2, 2009 10:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the site, David!
One thing I’d also add is that perhaps this isn’t immaturity on Radulov’s part at all. He could, after all, have reasonably decided that he’d rather go back home and make millions there, maybe not quite as many as he’d make over the next 2-3 years here in the US, but certainly enough. Plus, he’s probably got the inside track for playing on Team Russia in the 2014 Olympics.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he stayed over in the KHL until after the Sochi Games, because let’s face it, that’s probably more of a dream for him than playing for the Stanley Cup over here.
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by Dirk Hoag on Oct 2, 2009 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The power play didn’t become an issue until Feb 07 when the wheels just fell off. Before that we were a top 15, and at times a top 10, PP unit over the course of a couple of seasons.
Sully, Timonen, Kariya gone from the PP in a couple months span …. 07-08 the lines were decimated, got it. I’ll give them a pass for that firesale season. Last season showed virtually no improvement with the man advantage, and I am much less willing to overlook it. This season we have Sully back on the ice starting day one, Suter and Weber have developed into a true top pair who can handle the PP duties …… NO EXCUSE TO SUCK WITH THE MAN ADVANTAGE.
by 101st on Oct 2, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True...
That said, I guess I considered skipping out on a signed contract immaturity in and of itself.
If he’d played out his last year and then went home, I would of had zero problem with it.
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by David Singleton on Oct 2, 2009 10:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Like it or not...
a team’s success lies on the coach’s shoulders. While he may not have been at fault for the Radulov situation, our repeated playoff failures fall on him. He’s a good coach, but I’m just ready for something better than getting knocked out of the first round, or not even making the playoffs at all.
by Rebel91 on Oct 2, 2009 10:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just how many of the four playoff appearances do you think the Preds were favored to win their first round matchup?
by 101st on Oct 2, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like to think about who is favored, b/c history can show otherwise...
Look at what happened with other teams each year we appeared in the playoffs:
2004- The Calgary Flames we in 6th place at the start of the playoffs, and ended up in the Finals
2006- The Edmonton Oilers were the 8th seed, played in the Finals
2007- WE were favored to beat the Sharks, but they beat us in the first round
2008- We can just say that the favored teams did what they were supposed to, b/c honestly, those were some great teams advancing through the playoffs…
My point is, it doesn’t matter who is favored to win, because it is hard to rely on that logic. Trotz is a great coach, but he should be leading us further towards success than what he has done.
by Rebel91 on Oct 5, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
while i agree w/ the premise that trotz’s strength is getting alot from a little im not sure boclair is accurate. i think trotz demands his players play both ends and arad didnt so there was friction. i do wonder about trotz’s communication skills. especially after last year hearing him say over and over simliarly worded complaints w/ our team playing a full 60 minutes.
by predswilrule on Oct 2, 2009 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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