Nashville Predators' slide continues with 6-0 loss in Dallas
In a virtual replay of their 6-1 Monday loss to Edmonton, the Nashville Predators fell behind 4-0 just minutes into tonight's game in Dallas, and failed mount any sort of comeback, ultimately losing 6-0. Starting goaltender Dan Ellis was pulled at the 6:31 mark of the first, after giving up three goals on the first three Stars shots. This marked the second game in a row that Nashville's starting goalie failed to complete the game.
How bad are things going these days for the Predators? Just ponder the following:
The Preds actually outshot the Stars on the evening 29-26, but since they failed to score, their league-low shooting percentage has now sunk to an abysmal 3.8%, roughly half the scoring rate that the worst-shooting team in the NHL had last season (the New York Rangers, at 7.5%).
The Predators had four separate power play opportunities against the league's worst penalty killing unit, but in eight minutes only mustered 6 shots on goal. Jason Arnott and Patric Hornqvist led Nashville with 5 shots apiece, but the top line was also victimized by the Stars; Steve Sullivan was a -3 for the night, while Arnott and Hornqvist were -2, to go along with Ryan Suter and Shea Weber.
Marty Turco, who came into the game with an atrocious .880 save percentage, earned his 37th career shutout. Six different Stars enjoyed multi-point nights.
Perhaps the most damning post-game criticism came from Larry Murphy on the NHL Network's On The Fly, calling this game "an easy walk in the park" for the Dallas Stars. When has that kind of comment ever been used about the Nashville Predators as an opponent?
And if all that weren't enough, the high-flying Chicago Blackhawks come to Nashville tomorrow night. Sleep tight, Preds fans.
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Murphy is right, we're not challenging our opponents...
Re-posted from the GDT so it doesn’t get lost…
Since the first preseason game, we have been playing a 1-2-2 NZ trap against any controlled breakout. On the ice though, the players are backing up, backing up, and then standing still as the opponent carries the puck up ice with speed. It renders our forwards useless because they are standing still and not steering the puck to the boards (into a "jump" zone) and then either pins our defensemen up at the blueline (where they are susceptible to a dump-in behind them) or backs them up (giving up the middle of the ice and allowing players to skate right in on goal).
When we have the opportunity to actively forecheck, we have one forechecker on the puck and the two forwards behind them are backing up into a position to trap. No one is taking away the strongside boards and the weakside support is either backing up so far or coming so far into the middle of the ice that they are useless and out on an island.
Defensively in the zone, we are actually playing the same system we’ve been playing for the past two seasons, just much, much more passively. The system is called "1 on box behind" and has been the most popular DZC since the lockout. It is a combination of man-to-man and zone defenses. There is always man-to-man coverage on the puck and a box zone behind them supporting.
This season we are collapsing so deep into the middle of the ice that we are unable to get out to the puck along the boards fast enough to challenge against the cycle and the wingers are so deep in the zone that the opposition’s defense is free to challenge any puck coming up the boards and take their time to make a play with any pass out to them at the point.
These systems could work, but do not fit our personnel. We have to get more aggressive in every aspect of our game.
On the forecheck we must resort back to either a rotating triangle (1-2-2) or 2-1-2 from the opening drop of the puck. To make that successful, we need communication and a lot of hustle. The forwards must be in position to and show the desire to backcheck to allow the defense to step up in transition and force turnovers if we allow the opposition to breakout in the first place.
Against controlled breakouts we can still play a trap, but we have to be more active and aggressive at angling the puck to the boards to allow the second and third lines of defense to challenge in the jump zones.
Defensively, we have to be more aggressive, keep heads on a swivel, and play with desperation whenever there is a loose puck. Wingers must play out higher and the defense as well must be more willing to come off the goal line to prevent the attacking forwards from getting open by backing away from coverage.
It is maddening to watch this team from my perspective…
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Great comment...
I like hearing from someone who understands the posturing and strategy of the game itself. I truly like your analysis and wish I had your keen eye.
As a more “casual” fan, I’d like to give my view of what’s happening: our goaltending is, simply put, off. Saves that would normally be made are getting through. I think this has shown just how weak we are both offensively and defensively (depth). I was frustrated when some quality free agents were made available (for whatever reason – read: Kessel) and the Predators front office seemed to make no real effort to acquire the skilled players we need to succeed.
However, I also think that blaming Ellis/Rinne isn’t appropriate either. A few things that I noticed about tonight’s game: 1. Dump and chase doesn’t work. 2. Get someone in center when we’re deep in the zone. 3. Protect and BE AGGRESSIVE in the neutral zone. 4. Be willing to hit/be hit.
I don’t know. I guess I’m just disgusted. being outscored 12 to 1 over the last 120 minutes of play will do that, I suppose.
Of course, I have to give Kudos to a few Preds tonight. Suter played a solid game, as did Laakso. I have nothing good to say about our offensive lines, and that pains me.
I don’t want this to be a long season, but I’m a pessimist. For the love of all that is holy, prove me wrong, Predators.
Goal breakdown: Who to blame...
Goal 1: After consecutive icings by the fourth line, Guite loses the faceoff, puck is cycled deep in the corner, Morrow backs away from the defense into a quiet zone between the defense down low and the winger covering the point where he is fed the puck for a quick one-timer. Great shot by Morrow, not much for Ellis to do unless that hit him. Guite and whomever the strongside winger (I think Belak) were to blame for the faceoff loss and subsequent lack of coverage on Morrow.
Goal 2: Santorelli stops moving his feet on the backcheck allowing the puck-carrier to create a 2 on 1 against Klein. Klein halfheartedly attacks the puck-carrier and leaves Richards wide open in front for an easy goal. Santorelli and Klein to blame for leaving Ellis out to dry there…
Goal 3: Suter steps up in the neutral zone disrupting the oncoming attack, Sullivan is in position to and covers back for Suter taking Eriksson all the way to the front of the net on the initial rush. As it’s happening, despite me yelling at Sullivan through the TV screen, Sully leaves Eriksson all alone standing in Holmstrom territory and proceeds to start heading back to his wing position where Suter is actively defending the puck. The Stars simply throw the puck at the front of the net where Eriksson is still standing and he tips it past Ellis. Suter was seen as the closest man to Eriksson on replay, but that is simply because he saw what Sullivan had done and busted his butt to get that close. Sullivan with the huge gaffe there…
Ellis really had no chance whatsoever on any of the first three Dallas shots tonight, all of course ending up in the back of the net. Truly hung out to dry by his teammates and had every right to be the most vocal person in the locker room during the first intermission although I doubt he was…
Goals 4 and 5 on the PP, not even gonna go there. Weak penalties by both Hamhuis (who really didn’t do anything – Brunnstrom skated into him battling for position, then tripped over Hamhuis’ stick while trying to go after the loose puck) and then Erat for the blatant interference on a draw with less than 5 seconds to go in the first and then Klein for high-sticking Neal going to the net on what would have been another heavily outnumbered attack with a lot of speed against Rinne.
Goal 6 is all on Legwand. Leggy lost the draw cleanly, stayed with Peterson heading to the net, did his best to screen Rinne, and didn’t tie up Peterson’s stick – allowing him to make a beautiful tip on the shot from Skraskins to tack on the sixth goal of the night…
Rinne actually played pretty solidly. Had his moments, but saved the game from being a double-digit affair with some real solid saves. Ellis has to hold his head up high and not give the skaters in front of him the time of day till they put forth a better effort in front of him…
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Correction on the 2nd goal
Sorry, been a long night. As it was explained to me over at HF, Grossman dumped the puck hard around the boards, Ellis went out to try to slow it down, but didn’t. Neal makes a nice little tip over to Eriksson to spring he and Richards on the 2 on 1…
Honestly have to say, finger pointing is not usually my style, but tonight I’m really frustrated…
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Trotz has to be on the hot seat...
I’ve never been supportive of that idea in the past and still am not completely sold on it now, but…Trotz has to be on a short, short leash.
You cannot change the players to any large extent, but even doing that wouldn’t change anything significant unless the system is changed immediately and that falls on the coaching staff.
There is no immediate candidate that sticks out and screams to me “I’m a good fit to replace Trotz”. Tippett would have been a good candidate, but he is now in Phoenix. I don’t think Lambert would be the best choice either necessarily. Peterson deserves a shot somewhere, but that wouldn’t be too drastic of a change and unfortunately cannot be looked upon as a long-term solution. Laviolette (as Worst pointed out over on HF) might be a good candidate, but is a short-term solution due to his tough demands on the players and emotional nature. That well only goes so far, then it runs dry…
Definitely will be a true franchise defining moment Thursday night. The team has to right itself on the ice or at a minimum show that they are heading in the right direction. I doubt ownership will allow this to continue for too long if it impacts attendance as we all know it will. The pressure will be put on Poile to find a solution and Trotz’s head will definitely be an option presented…
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Replace Trotz with Crispy. That’s what I would do.
by Smashvillian on Oct 15, 2009 9:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not a chance
Do you honestly think that the players would listen to or respect Crisp as an NHL coach at this stage of their respective careers?
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They would absolutely listen and respect someone who is a proven NHL player and coach. Winning a total of 3 Stanley Cups. He started coaching in 77’-78’, then coaching under Pat Quinn in 78’-79’. Coached the Flames from 1987-1990, winning a Stanley Cup in 89’-90’. Then he moved on to coach Tampa Bay from 92’-98’. Oh and forgot to mention his great run in the OHL and AHL as head coach of the Greyhounds and Golden Flames respectively. So why wouldn’t the players listen to him?
by Smashvillian on Oct 15, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Because of his relationship over the past 10 years with the Predators
Yes, they listen to him and respect him, but as a color commentator and former player and coach with Stanley Cup rings on his fingers. However, over the past ten years he has been in television where his commentary during broadcasts has been interlaced with Schick comedy for entertainment purposes.
If a move were to be made even with Crisp and his background, it would be questioned both inside the locker room and around the hockey world as to the effectiveness of a coach coming down from the broadcast booth to go behind the bench after ten years.
IMO, if a move were to be made, it would have to be a different voice from outside of Nashville.
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I agree
After having been the color man for so long here, I just can’t see him suddenly becoming the authority figure. Crispy’s great, but that just wouldn’t work.
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At least we shoot the puck. Wait…We pleaded for that all of last year, and now we are just shooting irrelevant shots?
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Oct 15, 2009 7:56 AM EDT reply actions
Hockey in Nashville?????
Not to sound like ass, but O well. Why does Nashville even have a hockey team??? Do the fans even care for Hockey there. Wouldn’t you guys rather see Elvis on Skates.
He's been warned
please don’t feed the trolls.
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