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A Tutorial on Waivers: which Preds require them, which ones don't

There was quite a bit of discussion yesterday with the Cody Franson recall about Alexander Sulzer, and why, or why he wasn't, recalled instead. I thought a quick post here can serve as a reference for the rest of the season, as I'll bet we're going to see a few more transactions between the Predators and the AHL's Milwaukee Admirals over the next several months.

1-Way vs. 2-Way Contracts

First off, let's get the issue of 1-way vs. 2-way contracts out of the way. Please understand that these have nothing to do with whether a player has to go through waivers on the way to or from the AHL. A 1-way contract simply means that a player makes the same salary whether he's in Nashville or Milwaukee, while a 2-way deal means he has separate salaries based on where he's playing. For example, Ryan Jones earned a 1-way contract this season, while Cal O'Reilly, in his new deal, has a 2-way salary this year (he makes $550,000 in the NHL, but $105,000 in the AHL), but a 1-way salary next season (at $575,000).

So with his $650,000 1-way contract, Alexander Sulzer had better be buying the boys some nice dinners down in Milwaukee.

Typically, 2-way contracts are for young players who haven't proven themselves to be NHL regulars yet, so many players on 2-way deals are easily sent back and forth, but older veterans who may not be a lock for the NHL roster (like Dave Scatchard recently) may also get them as well.

Waivers

Waivers apply to players based on their age and experience in the NHL and AHL (European league experience doesn't count). The idea here is that once you have enough pro experience, if your NHL team doesn't want you, then at least you deserve an opportunity for the rest of the league to claim you. The waiver period starts 12 days prior to the start of the regular season, which is why everyone watches the waiver wire close to the end of training camp, to see if a useful player becomes available.

Perhaps the best example of that came last year at this time, when Detroit had to waive defenseman Kyle Quincey. The L.A. Kings picked him up, and he became the team's top-scoring defenseman.

The Preds were good enough to send me the following list of players currently on the Nashville roster, who would have to go through waivers if they were to be sent to Milwaukee:

#

Player

Pos

HT

WT

Born

Birthplace

2

Dan Hamhuis

D

6-1

209

12/13/82

Smithers, British Columbia

3

Wade Belak

RW

6-5

222

7/3/76

Saskatoon, Saskatchewan

6

Shea Weber

D

6-4

234

8/14/85

Sicamous, British Columbia

8

Kevin Klein

D

6-1

201

12/13/84

Kitchener, Ontario

9

Marcel Goc

C

6-1

202

8/24/83

Calw, Germany

10

Martin Erat

LW

6-0

200

8/29/81

Trebic, Czech Republic

11

David Legwand

C

6-2

204

8/17/80

Detroit, Michigan

16

Cal O'Reilly

C

6-0

187

9/30/86

Toronto, Ontario

19

Jason Arnott

C

6-5

219

10/11/74

Collingwood, Ontario

20

Ryan Suter

D

6-1

198

1/21/85

Madison, Wisconsin

24

Ben Guite

C

6-1

212

7/17/78

Montreal, Quebec

25

Jerred Smithson

C

6-3

206

2/4/79

Vernon, British Columbia

26

Steve Sullivan

RW

5-8

161

7/6/74

Timmins, Ontario

29

Joel Ward

RW

6-1

218

12/2/80

Toronto, Ontario

51

Francis Bouillon

D

5-8

198

10/17/75

New York, N.Y.

71

J.P. Dumont

RW

6-1

205

4/1/78

Montreal, Quebec

Goaltenders

HT

WT

Born

Birthplace

35

Pekka Rinne

6-5

207

11/3/82

Kempele, Finland

39

Dan Ellis

6-0

193

6/19/80

Orangeville, Ontario

#

Injured Reserve

Pos

HT

WT

Born

Birthplace

22

Jordin Tootoo

RW

5-9

197

2/2/83

Churchill, Manitoba

So who's not on this list, and can be shuttled safely back and forth? That would be Cody Franson, Patrick Hornqvist, Ryan Jones, Teemu Laakso, and Colin Wilson.

If a waiver-eligible player is recalled from Milwaukee (like Triston Grant or Cal O'Reilly already this year), there is a 30-day window within which the Preds can send them back down without having to clear waivers again.

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thanks for the info

by predswilrule on Oct 17, 2009 9:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Recall waivers are the pain.

by 101st on Oct 17, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Recall waivers

Nolan Yonkman is the only current Admiral to require recall waivers this season due to his AHL salary…

Predators Hockey: Live it, Love it...

by SLake on Oct 17, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know this is a Predators blog, but I’d love to see this expanded on, just a simple breakdown of who is affected by waivers and who isn’t by age, experience, or whatever.

But from the Preds side of things, good job.

by Tapeleg on Oct 17, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dirk, do you know the age/experience benchmarks that players must clear to be waiver-eligible?

by Dr. Ice on Oct 17, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is what happens when you have a post sitting on your screen for two hours, waiting to read it. Someone beats you to the comment and you don’t see it. So, yeah, what Tapeleg said.

by Dr. Ice on Oct 17, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can lay out the criteria as defined by the CBA, but it’s not very easy to work with. That’s why I wanted to get a specific list from the team.

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by Dirk Hoag on Oct 17, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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