On the Forecheck: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: The Pros and Cons of an 18-game NFL Schedule

NHL Announces Hart Trophy finalists

Today the NHL announced the finalists for the Hart Trophy as NHL MVP, with a trio of Russian stars vying for the prize, including last year's winner, Alex Ovechkin, along with Detroit's Pavel Datsyuk and Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin.

Earlier this season I tinkered with a statistical model designed to specifically answer the question of which player is "judged to be the most valuable to his team," which is exactly what the Hart Trophy is supposed to reward. Basically, it breaks down the total contribution in terms of both Goals For and Goals Against in 5-on-5, 5-on-4, and 4-on-5 action, and also brings in the effect of Penalty Plus/Minus, the ability of a given player to create power plays for his team.

The table below breaks this out in detail for the 15 players who came out at the top of my list, including a leader who wasn't included among the Hart Trophy finalists...

Star-divide

For each of the situations (5-on-5, 5-on-4, 4-on-5, shown below as EV, PP & PK to make the table a little less bulky), we have Time On Ice per game, along with the Rating stat from Behind the Net, which reflects the net impact on a teams Goals For-Against balance from a given player's presence on the ice, per 60 minutes of play (Goals For while on the ice, minus Goals For while on the bench, minus Goals Against while on the ice, plus Goals Against while on the bench).

For instance, if a team scores just as much as they give up while Joe Schmoe is on the bench, but when he's on the ice they outscore the opposition by a goal every 60 minutes, his Rating would be +1.00. It doesn't matter whether he scores that extra goal per hour of play, or his checking prevents that many goals against, so this Rating brings together offense and defense in one measure.

I take the Games Played, Time On Ice, and Rating to come up with an Impact stat for each situation (for instance, below, Mike Green's EV play resulted, over the course of the season, in a total of +25.50 to the GF-GA balance of the Caps this year). EV, PP, and PK Impact are summed up as Total Rating Impact, and then I bring in the aspect of Penalty Plus/Minus. By drawing penalties from the opposition, a given player creates advantageous situations for his team that are independent of the goals and assists that he actually scores.

Again, this measure (outside of the Penalty Plus/Minus part) specifically reflects performance compared to the rest of one's team, so it is ideally suited for an MVP debate.

NAME GP EV TOI EV Rat EV Imp PP TOI PP Rat PP Imp PK TOI PK Rat PK Imp Tot Rat Imp PPM PPM Imp Tot Imp
Mike Green 68 16.79 1.34 25.50 5.14 4.76 27.73 2.46 6.86 19.13 72.35 -9 -1.38 70.98
Pavel Datsyuk 81 13.51 2.13 38.85 3.16 3.35 14.29 1.51 0.27 0.55 53.69 +20 3.06 56.75
Alex Semin 62 13.18 1.78 24.24 3.74 7.28 28.13 1.52 1.65 2.59 54.97 -2 -0.31 54.66
Alex Ovechkin 79 15.94 0.5 10.49 5.11 6.21 41.78 0.92 0.47 0.57 52.85 +7 1.07 53.92
Nicklas Backstrom 82 14.53 0.94 18.67 3.61 6.3 31.08 0.87 3.01 3.58 53.33 -9 -1.38 51.95
Zach Parise 82 13.97 1.32 25.20 3.49 3.37 16.07 0.36 12.34 6.07 47.35 +20 3.06 50.41
Mark Streit 74 16.79 1.71 35.41 4.89 1.61 9.71 2.36 0.1 0.29 45.41 -13 -1.99 43.42
Evgeni Malkin 82 15.03 1.14 23.42 5.06 2.01 13.90 1.06 0.81 1.17 38.49 +23 3.52 42.01
Patrik Elias 77 12.46 0.54 8.63 3.37 3.5 15.14 1.85 5.86 13.91 37.68 +13 1.99 39.67
Nicklas Lidstrom 78 16.57 1.15 24.77 3.62 1.82 8.56 3.22 1.51 6.32 39.66 -10 -1.53 38.13

One thing that makes me pretty comfortable with this right off is that our three finalists are among the top eight in this table. But you'll also notice that Washington defenseman Mike Green is way out ahead of the pack here. His contribution came through in all situations, and for a defenseman playing lots of minutes, a -9 Penalty Plus/Minus isn't bad at all.

It wasn't like his accomplishments were solely offensive; despite a great deal of criticism that he isn't a "real defenseman", take a look at what Green did on the PK. Among players with 40+ games played, and at least 2 minutes per game of PK duty, his Goals Against per 60 minutes of play (2.51) was 3rd best in the NHL, according to Behind the Net. Combine that with his Goals For/60 Min of 1.79, and the Washington PK did just fine while Green was out there.

I know that in general defensemen don't get considered for the Hart unless they had a truly eye-popping season, but in my book, that's exactly what Green has done this year.

NOTE: Another point that sticks out in this list is the number of Washington Capitals players appearing. What this reflects is the concentration of  performance in a relatively small number of players on that team. Basically, the gap between the top end of the Caps roster and the depth players is wider than on other teams.

But regardless of my analysis, your three nominees are...


Alex Ovechkin

#8 / Left Wing / Washington Capitals

6-2

220

Sep 17, 1985



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2008 - Alex Ovechkin 79 56 54 110 8 72 19 1 10 1 528 10.6

He is the very model of a modern hockey superstar...

Pavel Datsyuk

#13 / Center / Detroit Red Wings

5-11

194

Jul 20, 1978



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2008 - Pavel Datsyuk 81 32 65 97 34 22 11 1 3 0 248 12.9

A favorite for the Selke and the Lady Byng, could he pull off an unlikely three-trophy sweep?


Evgeni Malkin

#71 / Center / Pittsburgh Penguins

6-3

195

Jul 31, 1986



GP G A P +/- PIM PPG SHG GWG GTG SOG PCT
2008 - Evgeni Malkin 82 35 78 113 17 80 14 2 4 0 290 12.1

He didn't just lead the league in scoring, he's the one who put the goofy sunglasses and hat on Ovechkin during the All-Star weekend. That's gotta count for something, right?

Poll
Who should win the Hart Trophy?
Alex Ovechkin
203 votes
Pavel Datsyuk
38 votes
Evgeni Malkin
96 votes

337 votes | Poll has closed

0 recs  |  Comment 7 comments |

Story-email Email Printer Print

Around SB Nation

Thursday Caps Clips

Sep 2010 from Japers' Rink - 251 comments

Wednesday Caps Clips

Sep 2010 from Japers' Rink - 292 comments

Defense and the Power Play

Sep 2010 from Blueshirt Banter - 34 comments

Comments

Display:

Very Interesting. Could use some tinkering(don’t look at me), but I like it. Well done sir.

by Bonzai on Apr 29, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Four Capitals in the top five? Perhaps they’re just a really top heavy team?

Check out my blog at fromtherink.com

by James Mirtle on Apr 29, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s exactly the note I just added to the piece… the core of the Caps delivers an outsized portion of the results compared to other teams. It’s worth repeating (over and over) that this analysis highlights individual performance relative to the rest of the team, it’s not a “10 best players in the NHL” list.

More fun than a stick to the face!
On the Forecheck is SB Nation's blog covering the Nashville Predators.

by Dirk Hoag on Apr 29, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

One possible tinker:

For instance, if a team scores just as much as they give up while Joe Schmoe is on the bench, but when he’s on the ice they outscore the opposition by a goal every 60 minutes, his Rating would be +1.00. It doesn’t matter whether he scores that extra goal per hour of play, or his checking prevents that many goals against, so this Rating brings together offense and defense in one measure.

Do you think this still undervalues defense, though? I would think that a goal prevented is more valuable than a goal scored. The marginal value of additional goals decreases, while the marginal value of prevented goals increases.

That said, this is light-years beyond “goals, assists, +/-”. Kudos!

by matskralc on Apr 29, 2009 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Quite true

In today’s NHL, indeed a goal prevented is worth more than a goal scored, but the margin of difference between the two is pretty small in practical terms. What I could do (taking a note down for a summer “to do”) is work out the relative value of Goals Scored vs. Goals Prevented, and weight the components appropriately here.

I could also bring shootout performance into the results.

More fun than a stick to the face!
On the Forecheck is SB Nation's blog covering the Nashville Predators.

by Dirk Hoag on Apr 29, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome breakdown with results that would surprise many.

The only thing I want to mention is that 4 Capitals players showing up on this list does not only mean that the top talent on the Caps is way ahead of the rest of the team. It also means that the top talent on the Caps is really amazing and better than most NHL fans are aware of.

To have 4 players on this list from one team is incredible. While Semin has started to get at least some recognition for being a true superstar Nicky Backstrom is still extremely underrated. He’s so young and yet already one of the top 3 centers in the NHL. If you were to say that to most NHL fans they’d think you’re nuts.

by ranndino on Apr 30, 2009 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Great work and analysis. Thanks for the read.

by zephyr on Apr 30, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about the Nashville Predators.
Start posting about the Predators »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

Connect_with_facebook

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Bradtoylaser_small
NHL 11 Team Play (PS3)
Small
Realignment...Gone Mental!
Reggiemiller_small
Do Predators fans have realistic hopes that the team can compete for the Stanley Cup?
Predators_licenseplate_small
The Biggest Battle to Keep An Eye on at Training Camp
Picture-7100_small
The Road Less Traveled, or Highway to the Comfort Zone?
Small
A Guide to Predators Ticket Sales
Small
Room For Improvement
74395_small
The Chairman of the Predators ....
Hockey_puck_small
Fifty years of hockey in Nashville?  Really?
Small
Cheap shot by Puck daddy

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

On the Forecheck's online store

About Me

Dirk Hoag is the Forechecker, churner of NHL stats & analysis, and managing editor of On the Forecheck.

Get OTF on your Kindle!

Me_medium_medium

Got a question or a suggestion? Feel free to email the.forechecker@gmail.com.

Follow Forechecker on Twitter

Named by Sports Media Challenge as a Top 10 NHL Blog

SBNation.com Recent Stories

PHILADELPHIA - MAY 16:  A fan of the Philadelphia Flyers holds up a sign reading "Next Goalie" behind goalie Carey Price #32 of the Montreal Canadiens in Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals during the 2010 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs at Wachovia Center on May 16, 2010 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.  (Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images)

Habs Finally Lock Up Carey Price, Sign Goalie To Two-Year Deal

National Hockey League commissioner Gary Bettman answers questions during a pre-game media availability before the Pittsburgh Penguins season opener against the New York Rangers in a NHL hockey game in Pittsburgh, Friday, Oct. 2, 2009. (AP Photo/Gene J. Puskar) +25 updates

Ultimatum? NHL Reportedly Threatens To Toss Out Kovalchuk, Luongo Deals Without NHLPA Concessions

Photo +1 updates

Report: Donald Fehr Hands NHLPA List Of Conditions On Becoming Union Leader

More from SBNation.com >


Managers

Forechecker_35_small Dirk Hoag

Muckers

Predsalternate_small Chris Burton

Grinders

Smashville2_small Aditya T (smashville)

Predators_licenseplate_small SLake

Adslogo_small AdmiralsShortShifts

Picture-7100_small Anthony Neal