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The Predators definitely outworked the Hawks for a much-needed home win on Saturday, yet it's still hard to get excited......


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If anyone had told us that Pekka Rinne would stone Jonathan Toews, Patrick Kane, and Patrick Sharp in a shootout we would all have said yeah, right. 

Pekka seems to be having trouble stopping shots to his glove side.  It appeared he had a clear view of all three Chicago goals and just didn't react quickly enough.  That said, after the third goal he was tremendous, especially when the Hawks were on the 5 on 3.  Got a lot of help from his defense too.  The pk was great.  Chicago came in with the league's #3 power play and went 0-4.

Marcel Goc should be our 2nd line center.  Following up his stellar play against the Blues on Thursday, his pass to Shane O'Brien for the Predators' first goal was absolutely gorgeous.  I like the idea of dropping a d-man down low and hard toward the net from time to time as long as we have the proper coverage at the blue line.  Shane and the net were wide open as Marty Turco could not get over to cover.  The Phoenix Coyotes did the same thing earlier this month against the Preds and Ed Jovonovski scored his first three goals of the year.  

Likewise, Jack Skille scored his first two goals of the year for Chicago.  This is not a pattern we want to see continue.

Same old Martin Erat.  He continues to skate in circles with the puck in the offensive end, neither passing nor shooting, until the defense relieves him of it.  Arguably the most overpaid player on the team.

Yes, we finally scored a power play goal on a shot by Shea Weber from the perimeter.  Another goal was scored by Cody Franson, also on a shot from the perimeter.  In this game they went in, but if these very low percentage shots are what the Predators are going to depend on for scoring they will continue to struggle offensively unless they have someone at the net.  And when they're not blasting away from the blue line they seem to spend an inordinate amount of time lollygagging around with the puck until they lose it without taking a shot.  This is a big reason why the Predators have a hard time on the power play and scoring in general.  One would think they see this on tape as they prepare for each game, yet it continues.  Why? 

For all the pre-season talk of Sergei Kostitsyn's offensive abilities they sure weren't evident on his breakaway.  He missed the net entirely.  Steve Sullivan's shootout attempt wasn't much better.  Not counting shootouts, I can recall only two breakaways that have been converted this season, and we've had quite a few chances.

There were a couple of occasions when the Predators had a player controlling the puck directly behind Turco.  The Hawks stationed a man on each side of the net thereby preventing a pass toward the front of the net.  I like the concept. 

A lot has been made about Ryan Suter's injury and the correlation of his absence to the team's recent poor performance.  Granted, he is very important to the club and it's great to have him back.  But he is only one player and not a savior.  Keep in mind he did not play against the Blues on Thursday and he was not on the ice for any of the goals the Predators scored on Saturday.  Injuries occur to good players on all teams and they should be kept in perspective. 

Hockey is the most difficult of all team sports to play and requires the most effort.  The travel adds to the difficulty.  The team had to be road weary after a 6 game stretch and now it's right back to the road for 4 more.  In fact, the schedule is top-heavy with road games until the end of January.  Only 20 of the first 50 games this season are at home.  If the Preds can manage to stay in or near the top 8 until February they are looking at a boatload of home games to close out the season.  The team is not without talent.  But talent only gives you a chance.  Play hard, play smart, and SHOOT THE PUCK!

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I thought Pekka looked off right from the start last night, but thankfully the D swept away the rebounds pretty consistently. As to Goc, while he’s a shifty player, he’s really not Top Six material; he lacks size and strength to attack the middle of the ice and consistently create scoring chances. That said, he’s doing a very good job in the role he’s been given.

This road trip is going to be very interesting. The Maple Leafs have lost something like 8 straight games. Can the Preds keep them down?

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by Dirk Hoag on Nov 14, 2010 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

Dirk, I guess all of us who follow the Predators have different opinions about different individual players. I did find your comments regarding Goc’s size somewhat puzzling, as he is listed as being taller and heavier than O’Reilly, and no one to my knowledge is complaining about Cal’s lack of size. Are you saying that, until Lombardi’s return, Legwand, Spaling, and Wilson are all better options to center the #2 line? I’d be interested to hear your rationale.

In the meantime, the game against Toronto appears to be very winnable. With an 8 game losing streak the natives have got to be restless. If the Predators can get ahead early and play some good defense for 60 minutes it will be a good night.

by shoot the puck on Nov 14, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Regardless of whatever his physical stature is, Goc doesn’t compete well when it comes to battling along the boards or forcing the play towards the net. He’s very good at eluding opponents and maintaining possession, though. O’Reilly, on the other hand, does a better job of protecting the puck with his body when on the attack.

As for the #2 line, it all depends on how you look at those numbers. Legwand will match up against the other team’s top center, and he does that pretty well. O’Reilly heads the top scoring line, and then Goc comes after that. Given the need for Spaling to usually be in the lineup for PK work, this allows Colin Wilson to stay on the wing for now, but in the long run, he’d push ahead Goc on the center depth chart.

I like Goc a lot, just as long as he’s kept in the appropriate role. I’ve said before I’d even like to see him get some PP work, to see if he can help out there.

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by Dirk Hoag on Nov 15, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Couldn’t agree more regarding giving Goc some pp time. You said it yourself, “he’s very good at eluding opponents and maintaining possession”. This is sorely needed on the pp.

How is Goc not a top 2 center with what we have right now? Isn’t the #2 line generally a scoring line? If so, who better to center it than Goc until Lombardi is back at full speed? Certainly not Legwand, Wilson, or Spaling, not at this point. Legwand is now basically a defensive center and neither Wilson nor Spaling are as accomplished as Goc. Some may argue that Wilson is playing out of position on the wing but if that’s the case put him at center on the #2 and see what happens. He certainly isn’t showing much otherwise.

by shoot the puck on Nov 15, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

It's just semantics

I would say the top 2 centers on this team are Legwand and O’Reilly, and Goc centers the 2nd scoring line. The whole 1-2-3-4 notation doesn’t quite fit the way things work with this team right now.

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by Dirk Hoag on Nov 15, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

and really

It never has. Trotz has always gone with basically 3 no. 2s and 1 no. 4.

by Chris Burton on Nov 15, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

btw, thanks for giving me and all Predators fans a place to voice our opinions.

by shoot the puck on Nov 15, 2010 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

thanks for chipping in!

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by Dirk Hoag on Nov 15, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

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