Kevin Klein: Nashville's Best & Worst Defenseman
Over the last week a great debate has raged in the Game Recaps and elsewhere about the job that Kevin Klein is doing on the Nashville Predators' blueline. Is he a fundamentally sound defender who just happens to have had his bad moments at the worst possible time, or a square peg which Barry Trotz insists on bashing into a round hole as a Top 4 man?
Now coming up on his 26th birthday and in his 4th full NHL season, the "young & inexperienced" label really doesn't apply anymore. So is Kevin Klein a reliable presence, or have the Predators blown it by giving him a 3-year contract extension, potentially clogging the development pipeline for younger right-handed defensemen like Cody Franson and Jonathon Blum?
Follow after the jump as we look at both sides of this debate...
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The Case Against
So far this season, Klein has played a starring role in some of the ugliest gaffes the team has had. All too often, they've cost the team a game.
First, there was an overtime winner given up to Calgary's Rene Bourque, in which Klein falls asleep after deflecting the initial shot, and lets Bourque beat him to the front of the net for the game winner:
Then, during the 3rd period of a 1-1 game in St. Louis, Klein made an ill-advised pinch during 4-on-4 play that resulted in a go-ahead goal for the Blues:
And most recently, there was the egregious brain cramp in OT against Atlanta, in which a stickless Klein let Ben Eager pick up the puck from between his feet and set up Zach Bogosian for the score:
Predators fans remember the horror of the Dan Hamhuis/Kevin Klein pairing from last year, and scenes like these can build upon those traumas. As SinBinPred wrote the other day:
My belief is that if you are going to take a top four D-man role on this team, then mistakes like this should not happen. Many times this season we have seen Klein have giveaways in front of our G. At times even giving the puck up at the crease, Klein has been out of position during a lot of plays and does not always appear to be confident while handling the puck. I can agree that this is a team sport. And when we lose or win, it is a total team effort. But, if we have a "weak link" holding us down, what do we do?
This is an assessment (one in which SinBinPred is not alone) that is built over the course of time based on each individual's observations, and they are thus prone to our very human foibles and prejudices.
One of the very best hockey-related articles I have EVER read was penned by Calgary blogger Kent Wilson, entitled "The Limits of Observation" (do yourself a favor, print it out and take some time with it). In this piece, Kent breaks down some of the tendencies that skew people's understanding of events and trends that they observe. I'll spare you the gory details, but one of the biggies here is confirmation bias, which is "defined as the tendency to seek to confirm original beliefs or theories." In other words, let's say one fan (Joe Kleinhater) came into this season with suspicions about KK's ability coming out last year, and then sees events like those above. They validate and amplify those existing feelings towards KK, while a few games without such events go almost unnoticed, and don't do anything to sway that opinion towards the positive.
So I'd say that this perceptual view of Kevin Klein as a failure suffers from a focus on a few sensational incidents, rather than appraising the whole body of his work.
The Case For
Some would take the first step to diffuse the Anti-Klein case by pointing out that every NHL defenseman has their moments on the wrong side of a highlight, as PredHead observed:
Every single NHL team has a defenseman (or two, or six) who serves as whipping-boy for the fans. I mean it; every single team. Check out the other SB Nation blogs if you don't believe me. It's as much a part of the NHL as goons and goalies. My point is that the face-palm moments are going to happen even with six Webers as you're defense core. I doubt we could replace him with anyone who do much better for $1.3 million.
Others have noticed that Klein has a Plus/Minus rating of +7 right now, best among Nashville defenders. That, along with his team-leading 3:29 per game on the penalty kill (which has risen to 7th in the league after a slow start), serve as hallmarks to what is actually a very strong performance, especially in light of all the injuries the Predators have had to deal with along the way.
A Deeper Look
I would agree that the first approach is perhaps overwrought, but the second relies on that most horrid of conventional stats, Plus/Minus. By focusing solely on goal-related events, it's almost as narrowly-focused as the highlight-reel driven worries above. Let's dig inside a little deeper with some data from Behind the Net:
| 5-on-5 data for Kevin Klein | |||||||||
| GP | TOI/G | GFOn/60 | GAOn/60 | Corsi On | Corsi Off | Sh% | Sv% | PDO | |
| 2010-11 | 26 | 17.0 | 3.25 | 2.03 | -9.1 | +2.1 | 12.0 | .939 | 1059 |
| 2009-10 | 81 | 16.6 | 1.83 | 2.50 | -3.7 | +7.1 | 7.0 | .908 | 978 |
To review the columns:
GP = Games Played, TOI/G = Average 5-on-5 time on ice in minutes
GFOn/60 and GAOn/60: Basically, the Preds' Goals For and Goals Against rates per 60 minutes of 5-on-5 play while Kevin Klein is on the ice. Since 5-on-5 play represents the bulk of the action, these components will determine most of a given player's Plus/Minus. For example, 26 GP x 17 min/GP x (3.25 - 2.03) = +8.99.
Corsi On and Corsi Off: The balance of Totals Shots (which includes Shots On Goal, along with Missed and Blocked Shots) For and Against. "Corsi On" is how that balance looks when Klein is on the ice, "Corsi Off" is how the team does while he's on the bench. What we see here is a consistent, strongly negative trend in the balance of play when Klein is on the ice. This year, that difference (called "Relative Corsi") is worst among regular Nashville defensemen, whereas last year it was 2nd-worst. That's not good, not good at all, even if he's facing reasonably tough opposition.
Sh% = the Predators' shooting percentage in 5-on-5 when Klein is on the ice. The league average is around 8%, so his figure this year of 12.0 is a sign that the bounces are simply going his way so far (it's the 13th highest among 212 NHL defensemen with at least 10 games played). There's no way you can convince me that Klein is doing anything that suggests this abnormally high shooting percentage is sustainable.
Sv% = Nashville's save percentage while Klein is out there. .939 is fairly high, but not so nuts as that Shooting Percentage.
PDO = This is just Sh% + Sv%, and it represents the overall "puck luck". 1000 is the average, most players will range somewhere between 975 and 1025 by the end of the year. Values outside that range are indicative of good (high values) or bad (low) luck, with exceptions for groups of high-caliber players who get to play together and dominate, like last year's Washington Capitals.
So what does all this tell me? I think Kevin Klein is still very much a work in progress, and that's a bit of a concern at this point in his career. Yes, his penalty killing work appears pretty solid, but that overall trend in Shots For/Against is worrying, especially since it's just as bad as last year.
And his Plus/Minus? It's purely the product of that abnormally high shooting percentage the Preds have enjoyed during his 5-on-5 ice time this year. Take that 12% down to the average of 8%, and that knocks 7 goals of his Plus/Minus, putting him right back at an even 0.
In short, KK isn't a disaster out there, but I don't see him making progress, either. As long as he can hold down the fort and allow Cody Franson to prosper against weaker opposition on the 3rd pair, that's probably a decent scenario for the Predators this season. Down the road, however, they need to get better, consistent performance out of that 2nd unit.
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Came For the Confirmation Bias
And I’m leaving happy.
Really great article Dirk, and it gives me some specific instances and good data to flesh out my personal opinion of Klein. I just wish we could do something with poor Sulzer.
Great Article
I didn’t know exactly where I stood on Klein but your analysis has put it in perspective. I didn’t want to believe the really negative views on KK but I am not so blind to realize there were some problems with his play. Of course there have been some big gaffes, which you aptly pointed out above, but I knew it wasn’t as gloomy as some have stated. With him closing in on 200 games in the NHL, there is enough evidence to form an opinion. At this point I feel he is a 5th or 4th d-man, but with some improvements he could be part of a solid 2nd line pairing.
by jerseypredsfan on Dec 11, 2010 12:03 AM EST reply actions
Such a good article.
Sure he has a history of having infuriating performances and has fad miscues aplenty but the dude is so damn underrated and I am personally glad we signed him to the 3 year 4 mil deal. Money well spent. Four or five years from now I wouldn’t be surprised if the NHL will be rumbling about themselves saying “Who’s gonna win the Kevin Klein sweepstakes?”.
Dirk, Dirk, Dirk
You ruined all the fun we were having!
Check out fanpost – Kevin Klein: Love him or hate him, if you haven’t already. Not you Dirk, I know you kept up with it.
Oh, and the end of the Atlanta game thread. Some good, old-fashioned, wild west blogging there!
It is too bad there isn’t a ‘quality shots against’. High shots against with fewer GA might be indicative of the opposing team taking poor shots on goal, shots that are more likely to be stopped, because of good defensive play, low angle shots, obscured shots, or dumps to goal. Or many of these shots could be coming from a hole created by the ‘other’ defenseman on the ice with Klein. Also the high shooting percentage when he is on the ice could be coming from good outlet passing and odd-man rushes created from such.
I realize that plus/minus isn’t a great barometer of stellar play, I just have few stats to throw at people to get them to lay off my preds. And I am aware that Klein isn’t all-world. He IS improving, he IS fast, he IS a good puck handler, it seems, and his shot seems to have gotten a lot harder and more accurate this year. I have to defend him, because he is on my team, and I think is a big part of why we are doing well. Too many negative Nancy’s out there for my liking. Every little thing is the end of the world.
But hey, I got a lot of flak for pointing out to everyone that Cliff Ronning sucked, so I guess what goes around…
There’s no evidence that any individual player, let alone a defenseman, has a significant effect on a team’s overall shooting percentage. If he were creating such wonderful scoring chances for his teammates, he’d have a boatload of assists.
It’s luck.
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Not "couldn't ever"
Just not often enough to significantly impact the team’s overall shooting percentage. Dumont’s goal in Detroit was a good example of helping to create a goal without getting an assist, but that kind of play is a rarity.
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Hamhuis was the whipping boy last year...
Klein has just stepped into his shoes to fill that void this year. I’ve seen Weber make just as many gaffes this season, but no one talks about that because it is constantly reinforced by the media and our own fan-base that he is an “elite” defensemen. Same thing with the Cube….caught flatflooted too many times and has got beat. But nobody focuses on those miscues as much as they do Klein’s. I have to admit, Klein makes me wanna cuss more than anyone else on the squad, but does he REALLY deserve it? Perception is a funny thing…..
by TitanPredBearFan on Dec 11, 2010 8:20 AM EST reply actions
After reading the article...
I had the same thoughts about Weber and Cube. Would like to see the same Behind The Net data on all our D-men for comparison.
I agree.
Every D-man we have has made dumb mistakes. Klein is the only one who constantly hears from it from the fans. What Mr. Hoag neglected to include is the tremendous save Klein made on a for sure Red Wings goal which could have been the reason we won in regulation! You never hear about the good plays but you ALWAYS hear about the bad things.
Shoving a puck into your goalie’s digestive tract is never a good thing no matter how many goals it saves or games it wins.
I feel like one of those psycho fans that latch onto a player and argue that “their guy” never does anything wrong. Oh well.
1. I completely agree with titanPredBearFan, excellent post.
2. I also agree with cisar regarding sh% and sv%. Perhaps good outlet passes are contributing to the high number.
3. The video evidence. The Calgary clip: Klein “falls asleep” after the initial shot because he sudddenly has two flamers to worry about. Stop at 2:53. He has bourque heading toward the net and #3 camped out at the side of the net. I’m guessing there was a split second of indecision on his part as to who to cover and that lets bourque get the jump on him. A weak defense of klien perhaps, but I can see why that gaffe happened. (can someone tell what erat and sk74 were doing on that play!!)
The st. louis clip: got nothing there. That was bad! You don’t do that in that situation.
And the atlanta clip: The guy has no support. You see him looking all around to access the situation. He was in the process of doing what so many people said he should do, i.e. kick it into the O-zone, but eager was too quick and poked the puck out before he could. IMO, wilson made the worst play by abandoning his side of the ice leaving bogo wide open.
In closing….yes I like klein. I think he’s underappreciated, I don’t think he’s the next Brian Leetch or even the next Ryan Suter. I just think he gets too much crap thrown at him by our fans when others make just as many, and just as bad, mistakes.
Now leave him alone or I’ll stick my tongue out at you and call you names.
The Preds have more ES goals and more goals/60 with Klein on the ice compared to Weber. The Preds gave up fewer ES goals and have a lower GA/60 with Klein in the ice compared to Weber.
Weber is still a better overall player with a much higher upside, but, Klein isn’t the slouch that so many here and on the various message boards try to portray. EVERY player makes mistakes that lead to goals. The difference is that fans focus on some players while ignoring or excusing others.

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