Anders Lindback saves the Preds in 3-2 victory at Detroit
Holding onto leads has been a critical failing of the Nashville Predators this season, and while tonight's 3-2 win in Detroit will be hailed as a workmanlike team triumph, this one has to be counted as a fortunate escape. After assuming a 2-0 lead early in the 2nd period, the Preds were outshot 28-8 the rest of the way by the Red Wings. When they had a 4-minute power play and the chance to extend that lead, instead they gave up a shorthanded goal to Pavel Datsyuk to keep things close.
That's not putting your opponent away, that's hanging on for dear life!
That said, "two points is two points", and the Predators will happily put those in the books, thanks in large part to Anders Lindback, who stopped 35 of 37 Red Wings shots.
Follow after the jump for video highlights, reaction, and of course, your advanced even-strength stats...
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First, the video highlights and Predators vs Red Wings boxscore:
Some stray thoughts:
- Was that first goal ever a thing of beauty or what? Incredible patience by O'Reilly to draw the attention of the Detroit defense before feeding Colin Wilson in front.
- Anders Lindback almost reminds me of an old-time stand-up goalie the way he maintains position after an initial save. He just focuses on making himself large and taking as much of the net away as possible. Given his frame, that's usually a good idea.
- Lots of people complain about the way the Preds dump & chase on the power play, but that shorthanded goal by Datsyuk serves as a great example of why it's a necessary tactic. The Red Wings stood up along the blueline and when Bouillon's entry was foiled, it led to an odd-man rush the other way. They nearly did the same thing again when Goc carried it right into trouble shortly afterward.
- Kevin Klein's been a big target for criticism these days, so give him full marks for sweeping a sure goal off the line and under Lindback in the 2nd period.
- As J.P. Dumont came down on that 2-on-1 with Klein in the 3rd period, it brought to mind a huge goal he scored against San Jose in the 2006 playoffs. In my head I was screaming "shoot that puck!" and sure enough, he did. Too many puck carriers in that situation look for the pass above all else.
- That said, I can't say I was thrilled by J.P.'s skating tonight. He seemed especially slow. Klein just blew by him to jump into that rush.
- You have to be concerned about David Legwand leaving the game in the 2nd period and not returning.
- The penalty killing crew was outstanding once again, turning aside all four Detroit PP's.
- Faceoffs, which were such a problem in Atlanta, were solid, as Nashville won 53%, led by Jerrred Smithson's 12-for-17.
- We've been keeping an eye on ice time lately, and while we know that J.P.'s been in the doghouse for a while (7:23), what's going on with Patric Hornqvist? Just 9:55 for him, but he is getting primary work on the power play.
| Even Strength | Individual Totals | Team Totals While Player Is On Ice | ||||||||||
| Player | Pos | EV TOI | Shots | Shts Blkd | Missed Shts | Blocks | SOG For | SOG Ag | SOG +/- | Tot SF | Tot SA | Corsi |
| Marcel Goc | C | 13:53 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 9 | 12 | -3 | 9 | 16 | -7 |
| Sergei Kostitsyn | L | 12:56 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8 | 10 | -2 | 9 | 15 | -6 |
| Cal O`Reilly | C | 12:52 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 8 | -3 | 7 | 16 | -9 |
| Colin Wilson | C | 12:47 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 8 | -2 | 8 | 16 | -8 |
| Martin Erat | R | 12:44 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 12 | -5 | 8 | 16 | -8 |
| Joel Ward | R | 12:41 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 6 | 5 | +1 | 9 | 7 | +2 |
| Jerred Smithson | R | 12:22 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 5 | 0 | 8 | 9 | -1 |
| Steve Sullivan | L | 12:03 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 9 | -4 | 7 | 17 | -10 |
| Nick Spaling | C | 9:19 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 6 | -4 | 2 | 7 | -5 |
| David Legwand | C | 8:27 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 2 | +2 | 8 | 4 | +4 |
| J.P. Dumont | R | 7:23 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 3 | -1 | 2 | 4 | -2 |
| Patric Hornqvist | R | 6:23 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | -2 | 1 | 4 | -3 |
| Ryan Suter | D | 18:26 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 12 | 7 | +5 | 14 | 17 | -3 |
| Shea Weber | D | 17:13 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 11 | 7 | +4 | 12 | 14 | -2 |
| Francis Bouillon | D | 15:53 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 13 | -10 | 4 | 20 | -16 |
| Kevin Klein | D | 14:41 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 11 | -7 | 7 | 16 | -9 |
| Shane O`Brien | D | 13:52 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 5 | 11 | -6 | 8 | 13 | -5 |
| Cody Franson | D | 9:32 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 7 | -2 | 7 | 8 | -1 |
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And props to Klein for having Lindy’s back.
by Hockey Hillbilly on Dec 8, 2010 10:35 PM EST reply actions
A dumb and dumber moment
Just when you think KK can’t get any worse he goes and does something like this…. and totally redeems himself!
you jacked that from my comment in the game thread!!!!
but it is funny as hell
by Russell Freda on Dec 8, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
haha
Didn’t read the game thread by any line from dumb and dumber is pretty darn funny! Haha
by Creeping Death on Dec 8, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Seeing that...
Legwand had a +4 Corsi rating and his linemates were +2 (Ward) and -1 (Smithson) respectively, which trump everyone else’s final numbers tonight…
I’d like to know what the whole team’s Corsi ratings were prior to Legwand’s injury late in the second period. Personally, I thought that was the changing moment in the game. Detroit had just scored shorthanded, then Legwand goes out literally 33 seconds into the first shift after the PP ends and the team couldn’t create any more offense.
Detroit picked up their forecheck in the third period and disrupted our breakouts, we failed to get the puck deep into the Detroit end and establish a forecheck of our own, and I think if Dumont hadn’t been the major beneficiary of a turnover, that the Preds likely wouldn’t have scored again.
The team needs a third two-way center with offensive skill in the lineup. Time and time again this has been made clear just by watching the team play. Monday night in Atlanta our top-six got the early jump in the first, then ATL made adjustments in the intermission and we didn’t score again. The team doesn’t sit back with the lead, they just struggle to keep up the offensive pressure when the top-six is being shut down…
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Yeah...
Anytime a player goes down in the middle of the game it is hard to continue your pressure. Everyone has to play more, and therefore tires easier. Keen observation though. They had to play the last 4 minutes of the 2nd without Erat and Legwand. I’m sure that took a toll on our guys.
Good game by the boys tonight...
and the game thread was lively…makes watching the game all the more enjoyable.
Dirk, Chris, and others…you’re awesome.
i said it'd make my week....
AND IT DID! Always glad to come in after a game night and find the Preds got another victory. Though I was up enough last night to find the final score regardless.
Not to jump off subject, but it’d be awesome if that other team playing in Nashville could get a W tonight……
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O'Reilly contract?
I’ll admit I voted “no” in the poll before the season about whether O’Reilly could cut it. I am grateful that I was wrong. He has definitely turned the corner and appears to be legit. So….
You’re Poile and the only thing on your mind 24/7 has been locking up Weber for eternity. You know you also have Suter coming up the following year. Now O’Reilly goes and pulls a Hornqvist in a contract year. He’s making 575,000 and is on pace for 18/36/54 and is a RFA at the end of the year.
So what are your thoughts on years/dollars for his new contract? I’m thinking 3 years, $5 million total.
Yeah, it's going to get complicated.
3 years, 5 mil sounds reasonable. Maybe $4.5 mil, but lots of players to think about. You’ve got to think about what Erat, Legwand, and Sully are paid. It would be nice to not have one or two of those salaries. Then pay Weber, hopefully Suter as well. Then you’ve got SK74, and if he keeps his pace up. Will he get a $3 mil/3yr deal? Would he take it? There’s a lot of unknowns and it’ll be an interesting summer next year.
Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t we have Sully, Ward, and Smithson’s money coming off the books after June 30. (I’m sure at least 1 of those guys will be re-signed) but that still frees up some money for Weber, Suter, O’Reilly, and Goc. IMO those 4 are more important to this organization than the other 3. Especially when you consider that all youngsters have to play the grinding role in Trotz’s system before they get put in an offensive role.
I thought we played GREAT last night!
The game ebbs and flows, and we were playing with the lead like we usually do…conservatively. But Lindback was the best player on the ice, and he really showed a lot of moxie between the pipes.
Legwand will not be missed, just like he hasn’t in the past couple of games. We’ll just plug in Spaling to do the EXACT same thing Leggy does.
Ain’t it amazing what happens when you give guys a little ice time (Kostitsyn & Wilson) or take some away (HornQ and Dumont). I still think Trotz couldn’t coach himself out of a wet paper bag, but that’s just me. I think HornQ on the top line with Wilson and O’Reilly instead of Sullivan (who needs to be put out to pasture) could really be dynamic. Where is our 30 goal scorer? Mucking and grinding with the other scrubs.
Dump and chase is necessary if you’re receiving too much pressure at the blue line when carrying the puck over the line. It’s not a good strategy otherwise IMO.
Detroit had some good chances, but they were in that game last night only for a little bit. We outplayed them and statistics that are a result of furious comebacks are misleading when you get dominated, stunned, and bitch-slapped in your own barn. Great win for the Preds and I can’t wait til Saturday…I hope Mike Santorelli doesn’t get the game winner…I really hope….
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 9, 2010 1:07 PM EST reply actions
Trotz could definitely adapt better on line matchups, and match strength with strength and who’s getting along in the locker room. That kind of stuff makes and impact. Everyone has slumps. Why take Horny off the top two lines? I don’t know. Maybe Trotz needs to sit down with the Art of War and the Tao Te Ching and figure out his own weaknesses.
Haha, that's a great idea!
All kidding aside, every coach should read the Art of War. All military officers have to…and what’s the difference between a coach leading his team in a game and officers leading their platoon in battle? Besides the obvious that sports is not life and death…not even close…but you get the picture.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 9, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
I realize we won but
I am super ticked that Toots got scratched last night. Win or lose. JP scoring or not. To me it is crazy that someone like Toots or Spaling that have been doing their job each and every night suffers while JP constantly finds himself in the doghouse. And please I don’t want to hear that Toots isn’t stirring the pot up. Trotz has not had him playing in that role. He has been playing a great shutdown role and actually make terrific passes that show a maturity of his ice vision. I just am dumbfounded and ticked at the same time.
Same story different year. Trotz refuses to hold veterans as accountable as younger guys. There have been several instances that Klein should have found himself in the pressbox for a game. And most certainly Sulzer did enough while Suter was hurt to warrant not being perma scratch until the next dman injury.
I also fully endorse switching Sully and Horny.
penalties
Detroit has some amazing floppers. So a guy like tootoo who already draws extra attention form the refs is probably not a good thing to have, especially if someone can fill his role in his absence.
Dumont scored the game winner, so a good idea to keep him in.
Kline is 25, so not really a veteren.
Hornqvist and wilson both play their best in the slot. Both on the same line would cause congestion and lack of puck movement on the perimeter.
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers"
by flyalder on Dec 9, 2010 6:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Summed that up nicely flyalder...
and I agree on all points.
by TitanPredBearFan on Dec 9, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Disagree
Wilson does a great job on the boards. I think Wison, O’reilly, and Hornqvist would make a great line. Wouldn’t bother me if 2 guys crash the net on the same line.
wilson
He does do a great job on the boards. But he is much more valuable in the slot as not many can do what he can there.
Having 2 guys crash the net is good on breakaways and after shots looking for rebounds. But for setting up puck pocession and plays it severly reduces options and is easy to break up for the defense.
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers"
by flyalder on Dec 9, 2010 7:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Personally, I think most of our scoring problems would be solved if our guys would go to the net more often. I think that is almost exclusively our problem. Too many bad angle shots from the perimeter. Just look at Detroit. If the numbers are right, you will even see their d men crash.
yes crashing at the right time.
but you cant set up in the offensive zone for any kind of play with 2 people in the slot. there will be no puck movement and it makes it too easy for for the other teams D to sweep it to the weak side corner for an easy retrieval and break out.
keeping hornqvist and wilson separate means you have net presence on two lines, instead of one line with no puck possession and one line with no net presence.
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers"
As did our D-men
Klein was crashing on JP’s goal, Weber does it all the time and even Suter picks his spots. There’s a time and a place…
Sully and Wilson compliment each other perfect on O’Reilly’s wings….both find the slot with regularity with Wilson really having found a home there recently. Do you seriously wanna mess up a good thing?? Hornqvist is not a finesse player like those three…he’s a gritty, garbage goal guy…ideally Goc would be the guy to center him but you just can’t break up the Heart line that is playing so well right now. Horny is just kind of stuck in no man’s land with Spaling until Lombardi or a yet to be determined center comes along.
by TitanPredBearFan on Dec 9, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Don't knock it til ya try it!
Sully has been terrible this year. He’s had a couple of good games to inflate his stats, but otherwise he’s been useless. I like HornQ on a line with Wilson and O’Reilly too, why not? And Wilson doesn’t focus his game on crashing the net, so I don’t foresee “congestion.”
And are you saying that JP doesn’t play enough?
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 10, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds like everybody is trying to be a coach here...
…why not put the best players on the ice the most and see what happens?
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Dec 10, 2010 1:21 PM EST reply actions

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