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Nashville Predators lose 5-2 in Detroit, Shea Weber injured

As great as they looked in defeating the Los Angeles Kings Thursday night, the Nashville Predators did a complete 180-degree tonight in Detroit, as the Red Wings manhandled them 5-2. Adding injury to insult, Shea Weber left the game in the first period with an apparent problem with his wrist, and did not return. With the win, Detroit crept to within 3 points of Nashville for 7th position in the Western Conference, and snapped the Predators' three-game winning streak.

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This one started ugly and just got worse from there. The Red Wings carried the play right from the outset, gaining an 11-5 shooting edge in the first period and a 2-0 lead on the scoreboard. Then, before the midway point of the second period, Darren Helm added two goals of his own, including a shorthanded marker that left Ryan Suter visibly frustrated as he knew gave the Detroit forward to much room to make a play.

Even though J.P. Dumont made a superb play to create an offensive chance and a goal to make it 4-1 heading into the second intermission, the third period saw Nashville muster only 3 (yes, 3) shots on net the rest of the way. I could go through the game in gruesome detail, but it's not for the faint of heart. The Red Wings were a motivated bunch after having been stomped on home ice by Vancouver on Wednesday, while the Preds looked like a team that had just played the night before (which they had).

Another sign of the Red Wings' dominance was on the faceoff circle, where they won 32 of 45 draws. In general, faceoffs aren't that big a part of hockey games as the split is usually close to 50/50, but a margin that large meant that Detroit enjoyed a significant advantage in puck possession time.

Probably the Predators' best player tonight was Dan Ellis; I don't know that you could blame him for any of the Detroit goals, and he made many outstanding saves that prevented things from getting completely out of hand.

A Calamitous Night for Klein

Among the skaters, there were plenty of culprits, with the most egregious probably being Kevin Klein. He was embarrasingly pick-pocketed by Pavel Datsyuk leading to Detroit's first goal, and he baffled observers by backing off Darren Helm in the slot in the second period, giving Helm all the room he needed to wheel and fire a wrist shot over Ellis' shoulder.

Plus/Minus is certainly a flawed metric, but Klein's -14 sticks out on this team like a sore thumb. Among players who have spent more than 25 games with the Predators this season, only three players have a minus - Martin Erat (-6), Steve Sullivan (-4), and Joel Ward (-1). If "accountability" is truly a quality that drives this team, then it boggles the mind why Klein continues to get Top Four ice time on defense.

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Once again, we see that among the forwards, ice time was apportioned very evenly; one thing I plan to touch on next week is that this team may actually have the most depth since the 2007 squad that threatened for the Presidents Trophy; the top-end talent may not quite live up to that team's level, but I'd warrant that Nashville's 3rd and 4th lines compare favorably to most in the NHL, and this should serve as a strength down the stretch as four-game weeks take their toll on star forwards playing 20+ minutes a night.

Colin Wilson I thought had a rough outing tonight, throwing pucks around in the offensive zone that were easily retrieved and brought up-ice by the Red Wings. Francis Bouillon had a workmanlike, inspired game that included a crushing hit on Valteri Filppula at the blueline.

 Even Strength Individual Totals Team Totals While Player Is On Ice
 Player Pos EV TOI Shots Shts Blkd Missed Shts Blocks SOG For SOG Ag SOG +/- Tot SF Tot SA Corsi
 David Legwand C 13:43 1 1 2 1 9 9 0 17 14 3
 Joel Ward R 13:16 3 1 0 0 9 7 2 16 14 2
 Jason Arnott C 12:51 0 0 2 0 4 4 0 7 11 -4
 Steve Sullivan L 12:42 1 1 0 1 4 3 1 8 10 -2
 Martin Erat R 12:28 3 0 0 0 5 8 -3 12 10 2
 J P Dumont R 11:53 1 1 1 0 3 2 1 8 7 1
 Patric Hornqvist R 11:20 1 1 0 1 2 4 -2 6 11 -5
 Jordin Tootoo R 11:12 1 0 2 0 5 8 -3 10 13 -3
 Marcel Goc C 11:03 0 0 0 0 4 5 -1 9 9 0
 Jerred Smithson R 10:45 1 0 1 0 8 6 2 13 11 2
 Colin Wilson C 10:33 1 0 1 0 2 10 -8 7 16 -9
 Cal O'Reilly C 10:03 1 0 0 1 2 6 -4 7 12 -5
 Dan Hamhuis D 20:16 0 3 1 2 7 13 -6 18 24 -6
 Francis Bouillon D 19:19 1 1 0 1 10 10 0 19 17 2
 Ryan Suter D 17:55 2 0 0 4 6 6 0 14 14 0
 Kevin Klein D 16:08 1 0 0 0 5 12 -7 11 22 -11
 Denis Grebeshkov D 14:03 1 1 0 0 9 6 3 15 11 4
 Shea Weber D 6:16 0 0 1 0 1 2 -1 3 5 -2
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Who is your Predator of the Game?
J.P. Dumont, goal
25 votes
Dan Ellis, 27 saves
17 votes

42 votes | Poll has closed

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LOL, that picture certainly is incriminating. Did Auger ref this game?

I agree with your depth assessment, the lines of Erat-Goc-Hornqvist and Wilson-O’Reilly-Tootoo have to be at least top five out of bottom-6 forwards.

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by Chris Burton on Mar 5, 2010 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed...

I mentioned it over on HF after the deadline. Poile has assembled this team back to pre-Balsillie depth. We’re able to roll four lines on a nightly basis and all four have a reasonable opportunity to provide scoring on any given night.

The 07-08 team had more top end talent, but I don’t believe there was necessarily as much scoring balance as there is now. Will be interesting to read…

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by SLake on Mar 5, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Klein and Grebeshkov

Dirk, you listed a couple of major mistakes Klein made tonight, but having missed the first period…I wanted to slap Klein upside the head on another shift right after Helm’s first goal when he lost position and got sealed outside by Bertuzzi at the front of the net because he simply stopped working away from the play and essentially stood up for a minute, then finished off the shift by heading back for an icing call in a very uninterested and lethargic fashion leading to him just barely touching it ahead of the oncoming Wing.

Klein is playing with zero confidence right now. His decision making is slow, he doesn’t communicate with his partner, and he is second-guessing everything because he isn’t trusting his first read. If Weber misses any time, trying to find someone to babysit Klein is going to be difficult…

Grebs did a great job tonight making smarter decisions to pinch down and keep pucks alive along the boards, leading to sustained pressure in the offensive end of the ice. I’m glad to see it reflected on the scoresheet in terms of his Corsi rating as a team-best +4. Still not totally in sync with his teammates, but given a little more time I think this could really be a big addition to our blueline…

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by SLake on Mar 5, 2010 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

Got gas?

Does Arnott not have enough left in the tank to skate two games back to back?

by Hockey Hillbilly on Mar 6, 2010 7:42 AM EST reply actions  

Klein

He’s got to be scratched once Franson gets back…provided that Weber isn’t injured long term. No matter if they just signed him to a 3yr contract or not.

by Blood Red Pred on Mar 6, 2010 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Number 8

He has to be punished.

by 29thWard on Mar 7, 2010 1:39 AM EST reply actions  

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