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Nashville Predators vs. Chicago Blackhawks series preview

Remember when the Chicago Blackhawks held a red carpet parade before their 2008 home opener? Yeah, the Preds are going to ruin their 2010 playoff party, too.

The National Hockey League obviously saved the best for last, with the Predators and Blackhawks opening their Western Conference Quarterfinal series Friday evening at the United Center in Chicago. The experts around the NHL are in heated disagreement over their predictions for this series - how many games will the Blackhawks take to win it?

I can see why they're smitten with the Hawks - they have lots of young talent, and a few high-priced veterans to go along with them. Once you start digging into the details, however, things start to look much different...

Star-divide

Even Strength

First, let's start off with the largest factor in the game, 5-on-5 play:

5-on-5 Team Data from Behind the Net
 Team GF GA GF/60 Shots For/60 Shoot % GA/60 Shots Ag/60 Save % +/- per 60
 Nashville 157 150 2.4 29.8 7.9 2.3 28.6 .921 +0.1
 Chicago 181 154 2.8 33.2 8.3 2.4 24.0 .902 +0.4

Looking at data from all 82 games, the Blackhawks would appear to have a pretty hefty advantage at even strength. That team Plus/Minus per 60 minutes of +0.4 is 4th best in the NHL.

But recall the story of this Nashville Predators season - they got off to a lousy start as defense pairings were sorted out, Francis Bouillon got up to speed (after signing just a couple days before the first game) and the team has steadily improved over time. If you carve out the first 11 games from each team's results (as found in this preview of a game between them in late October), these teams look much, much closer:

5-on-5 Data Since 10/29 NSH vs. CHI (final 71 games)
 Team GF GA GF/60 Shots For/60 Sht % GA/60 Shots Ag/60 Save % +/- per 60
 Nashville 142 127 2.5 30.5 8.1 2.2 28.4 .923 +0.3
 Chicago 156 136 2.7 32.9 8.2 2.4 24.6 .902 +0.3

In a nutshell? Just as the Preds got off to a terrible start in October, the Blackhawks were red-hot at that time. For the last 5.5 months, they've played at a very similar level overall, and during the last month, Nashville has been better.

Since the San Jose Horror on March 11, the Preds have outscored opponents 30-23 in even strength play. In that same time frame, the Blackhawks have 41 GF and 40 GA at evens.

Yes, the Blackhawks do boast some game-breaking talent up front with names like Jonathan Toews, Patrick Kane, and Marian Ho$$a. But the Preds are no slouches, and Patric Hornqvist, Martin Erat, and Steve Sullivan will keep the Chicago defense scrambling at times. Perhaps the most important aspect of the 5-on-5 play will be how much Barry Trotz is able to roll the lines. Four-line depth has been a true strength for the Predators this season, and a few goals from the 3rd and 4th lines will go a long way towards taking the heat off the stars.

Predators PP vs. Blackhawks PK

Nashville PP Chicago PK
 Shots per 60 minutes
50.5 (16th) 48.0 (7th)  Shots Against/60
 GF/60  5.0 (29th) 4.7 (4th)  GA/60
 Shoot %  9.9% (29th) .902 (5th)  Save %
 PP TOI/Gm  5.6 (22nd) 5.1 (3rd)  PK TOI/Gm

Obviously, this isn't a pretty picture - the Preds don't generate a ton of power play time, and don't create particularly good scoring chances. There's also an element of danger as the Blackhawks led the NHL with 13 shorthanded goals.

The opportunity here, however, lies in the return of Denis Grebeshkov, an excellent PP performer who only played four games in the regular season with the Preds. Over the last two seasons, Grebeshkov's Points per 60 minutes in 5-on-4 PP time ranks right alongside celebrated Chicago blueliner Brian Campbell (3.75 last season, 3.40 this one compared to 3.92 and 3.41 for Campbell). Grebs is the "ace in the hole" that Trotz can play as soon as he's ready (likely Game Two).

Blackhawks PP vs. Predators PK

Chicago PP Nashville PK
 Shots per 60 minutes
52.1 (11th) 53.2 (19th)  Shots Against/60
 GF/60  6.7 (9th) 8.2 (27th)  GA/60
 Shoot %  12.9% (10th) .846 (29th)  Save %
 PP TOI/Gm  5.5 (26th) 4.6 (1st)  PK TOI/Gm

Chicago boasts a pretty good power play unit (not world-beating), while the Preds have been uncharacteristically poor. The effect here should be minimized by the fact that Nashville doesn't spend much time in the penalty box, and the Blackhawks don't draw many calls either.

Scott Reynolds makes the argument that the Preds' lousy Save % on the PK is likely due to team defensive issues, and I'm inclined to agree there. Can all this time off leading into Game One give the coaches enough practice time to shore things up? Let's hope so...

Goaltending


Antti Niemi

#31 / Goalie / Chicago Blackhawks

6-2

210

Aug 29, 1983



GP MIN W L OTL GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
2009 - Antti Niemi 39 2190 26 7 4 82 2.25 936 854 .912 7

The Blackhawks turned to the rookie after Cristobal Huet failed (again) to assert himself as the #1 guy, despite a 4-year, $25 million contract that still has two years left on it. Niemi will have to handle Hornqvist's presence on his doorstep and maintain his composure - if he gets pulled at any point, the Blackhawks would be one bad Huet goal away from a complete meltdown.

Since March 1, Niemi has a 9-3-3 record and .911 Save Percentage with two shutouts.


Pekka Rinne

#35 / Goalie / Nashville Predators

6-5

206

Nov 03, 1982



GP MIN W L OTL GA GAA SA SV SV% SO
2009 - Pekka Rinne 58 3246 32 16 5 137 2.53 1541 1404 .911 7

Overall, I'd say Peks had a mediocre season - but the good news is that since the Olympic lockout and signing his new two-year contract, he's been outstanding (12-4-1, .931 Save Percentage, 4 shutouts).

Summary

The Predators need to build upon their road success this season (23-15-3) to win at least one of the opening games this weekend in Chicago. They can do that by exploiting the absence of Brian Campbell and Kim Johnsson as long as they can, putting pressure on Blackhawk defensemen (especially the understudy, Dustin Byfuglien) and not letting the forwards carry the puck easily through center ice.

On the attack, the plan should be vintage Predators; make sure to get the puck deep in the zone, work around the boards and look for opportunities to drive the net, whether via a slapshot from the point, or by cutting into the slot and firing away. The imperative will be not to turn the puck over high in the zone to Chicago's speedy forwards, and put shots on net as often as possible.

I like Pekka Rinne's ability to dominate, and that if the two teams do need to go to their backups, the Predators will have much more reason for confidence than the Hawks.

As to Chicago, they remind me somewhat of Team Russia heading into the Olympics (except without the goaltending credentials). Their top-end talent has fans drooling, but when the role players hit the ice, the Preds should have the edge.

Since the bulk of the gameplay is likely to remain in 5-on-5, that depth will play a large role, and Nashville is more than capable of holding their own in that situation. Now that they finally have a relatively healthy lineup heading into the playoffs, everyone on this team from the GM down to the equipment guys are bent on creating some history.

I'll take the Nashville Predators in six games.

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that the Preds have the least penalty minutes of any team since 1977? I just heard that on the radio. crazy.

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by Aditya T (smashville) on Apr 15, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Scoring differential on the 'lower lines'

I think that is going to be the difference in this series, and each series the Preds are fortunate enough to play. The top lines of the Preds may be able to keep pace with Chicago’s top lines, but the lower lines will need to outplay their opponents. If the lower lines can do that, and maybe chip in a couple extra to make up the goal differential up top, the Preds can win this series.

by jerseypredsfan on Apr 15, 2010 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope you’re right, Dirk. I hope you’re right.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm always a sunny optimist

and I voted yes. I worry, though. Wouldn’t that just shake some foundations if it happens?

by BradPerala on Apr 15, 2010 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Side rant...

Why is hoping your team wins put down as “homerism”?

I still think we’re a lot better than everyone is giving us credit for.

by Patten on Apr 15, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

you mean like Homer Simpson?:)...

“homerism” schmomerism, of course we have faith in our team… duh people, or should I say “Doh!”

by hockeydekefreak on Apr 15, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea. In other news, giving your team full marks for something they do well is also homerism.

My definition of homerism is “JAsen Arnitt is teh best centre in teh NHL!”.

I think we have a fantastic shot at winning the series. I don’t think we will, but I’ll be incredibly disappointed if it doesn’t go at least six.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

But...

Jasen Arnitt is teh best centre in teh NHL.

Well, outside of Jordan Twotwo.

by Patten on Apr 15, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey smash (that sounds weird when I say it)

I really liked your preview.
Nice tidbits of information.

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by Aditya T (smashville) on Apr 15, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gracias

The problem was trying not to put a lot in there, but not giving it alllll away, since there’s the potential of writing 6 more of them.

by Patten on Apr 16, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure I meet your def f Homerism

But to respond to Patten’s comment of respect.

I do not think all Hawks fans are feeling 100% confident. I don’t. I think the Hawks will win, but the Preds were not one of my first choices to face in Round 1. You guys played us to good in 5 of the 6 games.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 15, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The players need their fans to have faith and "hope they win", they play better that way!...

I guess they think that we’re supposed to be more like fans “up north”, where some “fans” regularly spend all day bad-mouthing their own teams, booing at games, and putting un-due pressure on the players who they are supposedly “fans” of. That’s just not the southern style. (I grew up “north” so I can say this) Here in Nashville, we like to cheer to help our team score, not just because they scored. We all know where these fickle fans sometimes are, I don’t have to name cities. I’m just glad we’re not that way here, let’s be thankful. And let’s get this thing on, already!, I’m talked out.

by hockeydekefreak on Apr 15, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d like to point out that you are forgetting to mention all the boos that were echoing through the Sommet/Bridgestone all year when the Preds were on the power play. Please don’t try to claim that being a southern hockey fan makes you nicer and more supportive of your team. Fans everywhere boo their teams when they aren’t performing. Seeing as how I watched the Blackhawks and Preds religiously this year I can safely say that the Pred fans booed their team a hell of a lot more than the Blackhawk fans booed their team.

Kevin

by Hawkfan08 on Apr 15, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but Hawks PP

IS still Clown Shoes

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 15, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year’s PP was 19% but 28% in the playoffs. This year the PP was at 18%. They can step it up again this year. Only problem is that Buff was a menace last year and won’t be causing havoc in front of the net this year.

Kevin

by Hawkfan08 on Apr 15, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buff WAS the man (realtivley speaking) in the Playoffs

So who knows. The Clown Shoes may become a Barret .50 cal for the Run.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 15, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

True story...

The boos come out A LOT in Nashville. Not so much recently, but they definitely were there in full force earlier this season.

by Patten on Apr 15, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

look, obviously everyone boos (me too) at some point. But we tend to reserve it for when it counts(like on a bad pp, maybe). My rant wasn’t pointed towards Hawks fans in particular. And yes, I am claiming that being a “southern hockey fan makes me nicer and more supportive of my team”. That’s exactly what I’m saying. Having lived in New England and several other Northern cities and now in Nashville, there is a stark difference.

by hockeydekefreak on Apr 16, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I second this...

Having lived in Chicago it’s a whole nuther atmosphere. The boo birds come out with more regularity and more force than they do at the Bridge. If we boo it’s because the Preds don’t take the shot on PP, not because we’re screaming “you guys suck!!” after the boos like they do up north. The only thing worse was when Chicago hockey fans didn’t even bother to boo because the team sucked so bad. That kind of apathy never happens at the Bridge…ever.

by TitanPredBearFan on Apr 16, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Having lived up north and being a lifelong Blackhawks fan, I’ve been to several games at old Chicago Stadium and the United Center. I also have season tickets for the Preds. The bottom line is that there are always a few idiots who boo everything. There are always a few people who refuse to boo at all. It’s like this for every fan base. I feel that stating that the booing down south is more justified because “we tend to reserve it for when it counts” is inaccurate. Look, I think Nashville has some of the most knowledgeable fans I’ve seen (I just wish there were more of them), but I can assure you that the majority of fans up north don’t boo just because they feel like it. They boo when it counts as well. And the fact of the matter is that that there were definitely more boo birds in Nashville this year than Chicago. Not that there is anything wrong with that, if you pay for a ticket you have every right to boo. I just don’t think it’s accurate to say booing down south is more justified.

by Hawkfan08 on Apr 16, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

wasn't specifically talking about Hawks fans (you guys are cool)...

and wasn’t trying to start a debate about who boos more. My larger point is simply that there are some pretty big differences between our fan-base and some of the others. and I think they are good differences..that’s just my personal experience.

by hockeydekefreak on Apr 16, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have your opinion,

I have mine…I was a Blackhawks fan growing up, and am now a Pred’s season ticket holder. I went to more games than I can count in the Barn and my opinion stands. I’m sure the fan base has changed alot in Chicago because a) there are alot of bandwagon fans now that the Hawks are good and b) Chicago fans, for the first time in a long time, actually have something to cheer about. Completely different vibe in both arenas no doubt, but I just happen to like the one down south better.

by TitanPredBearFan on Apr 16, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will agree with you that there are a lot of bandwagon Hawk fans now, there’s no denying that at all. To be fair though, there was a loyal contingent of Hawk fans through the years that are more loyal than any fan base in the NHL. Also in defense of Hawk fans, Dollar Bill Wirtz made it damn near impossible for there to be a fan base worth anything. I will also agree 100% that there is a huge difference in fan bases here in Nashville compared to not only Chicago but anywhere in the league. I think that’s a good thing too, as I happen to really enjoy the Nashville fan base and think it’s a great fan base that has grown after only 11 years. It takes time to get people into hockey and there’s no doubt Nashville in on the right path. I wasn’t trying to start any debate just making a point that every fan base boos, and they have every right to boo.

by Hawkfan08 on Apr 16, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I booed. Early and often. I’m not afraid to tell my team they are playing like crap. On the other hand, I never leave early, I cheer and yell alot, and I even believe we can still win it when we are down by three goals. I am not a negative nancy. I am a positive penelope.

by cisar on Apr 16, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we have a great shot, too...

… we even had an extra couple of days to think about it! I have a good feeling right now, it’s different than what I’ve felt going in to past playoffs. I really think we have our best chance yet to get out of the first round and do some damage. I vote yes.

by hockeydekefreak on Apr 15, 2010 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

i think we have a shot

and that we could win the series, but signs point to the better team winning in most cases.

but the Hawks haven’t won a game yet, let alone 4. we are playing a different opponent that hasn’t dominated us. we are healthy. and we have a hot goalie.

so yeah, we could win. do i realistically think we will, no. but who cares what i think. drop the puck and lets find out. talk is cheap.

by HartnellsMop on Apr 15, 2010 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

The stats look good for you and all

I really do not have time (well the over aching desire really) to do this but,

If you are going to pull your bad month out to compare stats, than you may want to do the same for the Hawks (the WHOLE month of March). That month was horrendous to say the least, but finished in April 6-0-1. By taking your bad period out, and comparing it to ours with our bad month included, and it comes up even, how would it look if we both dropped poor months?

Like I said, I have not done the math, but I am fairly certain those number would once again diverge quiet a bit. The Hawks were much sharper in April, just as the Preds were much better after Halloween. But to take your best period and leave out the bad and compare it a period that includes our worst is not a fair assessment, and may just be a self fulfilling fantasy, and even than, the numbers were just about equal.

But that is just my opinion

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 15, 2010 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Big difference? We’re coming in hot as all hell. You’re not.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Basically, your bad month is right now. Ours was a long time ago.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not as hot as long as you granted

But I think the bump in the road for the Hawks is in the rear view mirror now. Almost the exact same thin happened last March and April, Complete Deuce in March, and Hot April leading to the WCF. So there are data points to justify it is over.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 15, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pure Hilarity

The Blackhawks aren’t hot? They won 6 in a row before losing to Scum Sunday. Thats six in a row while not playing their best hockey and down two of their Top 4 Defenseman.

Get a clue.

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by HjammerTime on Apr 15, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe we were comparing when our bad months were, no? Ours was in OCT, yours March. My bad for the poor wording, but no need to get worked up.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not worked up

Not getting work up. It just seemed like you were saying were not hot when six wins in a row is pretty darn good.

Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"

by HjammerTime on Apr 15, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

6-0-1 in the last month of the season isn’t hot? Please elaborate on what you would consider hot…lol

Kevin

by Hawkfan08 on Apr 15, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

See above.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i see that now..my bad

Kevin

by Hawkfan08 on Apr 15, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry for the intrusion

At least we established were playing adequate hockey.

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by HjammerTime on Apr 15, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

No intrusion, enjoy the guests.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The month is over, The Hawks are Hot

But to do the numbers like that, taking away your poor period, but using ours in a comparison, is to ignore the Elephant in the room.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 15, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you have to make us look bad?

The point there is they started slow, but consistently moved forward.

We started hot, cooled off, and have only 7 games where we’ve been playing well again.

That is their point here, also see letter to Chicago fans.

If you wish to dismiss their premise, at least put something better out there.

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by Trixietrx on Apr 15, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why does everyone keep insisting the Hawks were hot in October?

We were pretty mediocre to start the season. Didn’t get hot until November.

Tremendously tremendous

by synaptique on Apr 15, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trixie

For one, if you think I’m making you look bad, sorry for that.

For two, I’m a data analyst and I saw a glaring hole/skew (in my eyes) of what was presented.

I think point of them getting better since November was clear, and I did suggest a different premise of not including the bad periods for both clubs and than compare stats again. I suggested to numbers would once again diverge. I also said I’m not doing the leg work on it, really because it is not important enough to. It changes nothing of how the games will be played, or who anybody is rooting for

It was my observation of data, and the fact I do not think it accurately represents the Hawks vs The Predators.

That is my opinion, not the Hawks, not OtF, not SCH. I am confident people will see that, and if it reflects badly on anybody, it reflects poorly on me, not you or anybody else from SCH.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 15, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the shout out Trixietrx!

See, I knew I’d find a couple of you Chi-town fans I’d like! =P

by Poiju on Apr 15, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Replying to all three here

I don’t remember our record in October, but we did have a good start to the year, then tapered off and had a horrid March.

You can’t just take out our bad periods of time from data analysis and expect it to be the same premise as that proposed, which was the Preds increased performance and consistency. Just randomly taking a month off doesn’t make sense under that premise, whether you analyze data or not. If you take out say March because of our defense issues, that’d be possibly comparable, but in this situation doesn’t work cause we’ll be playing with the same D tomorrow. However, I guess you could put out there that it took a month for them to figure out lines?

Poiju, there are a lot of us that are likeable, I’m not necessarily one of them. ;) And feel free to call me Trix.

Anyway, I’ll stop being the internet police now.

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by Trixietrx on Apr 15, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Preds do have one big thing going for them now though!

ALL of the underdog teams are up in their series right now 1-0.

This is why we let the players play the game on the ice, and not determine who wins by looking at paper.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 15, 2010 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

i actually think thats a negative. every coach that didnt play wed night will play that up.

by predswilrule on Apr 15, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you're going by seeding, then no.

Pheonix did beat Detroit. I also wouldn’t consider them an underdog anyway, with the season/story they’ve had

by Great Paperclip on Apr 15, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear you on that

But, allot have SCUM as favorites in this series, myself included. But I am REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY hoping SCUM get beat down

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 15, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey,

who doesn’t?

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by Aditya T (smashville) on Apr 15, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, true

but then if we’re playing that game, I have the Sharks as underdogs against anyone. The only team they can beat in the playoffs seems to be the Preds :-P

by Great Paperclip on Apr 15, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

A team can not do well in the post season

If it keeps losing their star Joe Thorton every year. It is tough to win like that.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 15, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stats are valid indicators

…but they are not necessarily completely reliable predictors. They Coyotes’ PP ranked 28th in the NHL and they rang up three PP goals against the Wings last night. They also way, way outhustled Detroit for the entire 60 minutes. In a word, they were hungrier. That’s the unverifiable factor. How hungry are the Predators? I’m hoping they bring a huge appetite tomorrow night/

by Hockey Hillbilly on Apr 15, 2010 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm sure the Preds are Hungry

But if you think for a second the Hawks will not be just as Hungry you will be grossly mistaken.

I’m not going to get into the whose Hungrier than who, because both have it, they both WANT it, and the both will be willing to fight to TAKE it.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 15, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting stat on nhl.com
Since 1994, the No. 7 seed has defeated the No. 2 seed 46.3 percent of the time (14-of-30)…

That’s way closer than I expected…

Chicago fans, you guys have to understand. The way we see the Predators now is that we view them as a completely separate team from the October Predators. We attribute a lot of poor stats to that first month, where we managed to do things like achieve 5 and 6 goal losses to teams.

Since October we’ve had on and off periods, but nothing like October. What we’re all trying to scream is… when you look at the full season stats, you’re not seeing the current Predators team.

It really comes down to → MAN! WHY ISN’T IT DAMN FRIDAY ALREADY!?!?

by Poiju on Apr 15, 2010 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Except...

PP and PK not included… special teams just sucks, but we’ve accepted that by now. There have been times in this season where several of us were wishing we could ‘Decline’ the other team’s penalty like in football.

by Poiju on Apr 15, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another interesting stat.

In the last 3 years, no 7th seed has defeated the 2nd seed.

Just saying.

by Ban on Apr 16, 2010 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me no like B-Hawks

Here you go hawks fans, here’s a nugget for you. You’re goal celebration is so stupid…..Dadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadadada…….You’re organization is so creative!

by Avaughn on Apr 15, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Really Dude?

That’s all you got?

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 15, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you a Preds fan?

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by Aditya T (smashville) on Apr 15, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

Partial ticket holder for the last three years. Also, I have to drive all the way from Jackson, TN. And I love our goal celebration. The most annoying ones in the league are the sharks with their nintendo music, and the hawks, because it sounds so retarded.

by Avaughn on Apr 15, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Weak, man. Dislike.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out of respect for your guys' thread

I will refrain from retorting on this one!

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 15, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

No seriously..

Do you like it….I mean, I am biased.

by Avaughn on Apr 15, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think its more of a ‘to each their own’ thing. We like our goal song, they don’t. Its probably because no one likes to hear the other team’s goal song.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes I do realize that..

..but it’s more than that some just sound so annoying to me…I can take the wild with their breakdown…I love it, other than when my team is playing there..But, it does’nt annoy me.

by Avaughn on Apr 15, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. Doesn’t have much to do with the hockey game though.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just wanted to change things up for you guys in here.

I mean lets face it. In the Stanely Cup Playoffs anything can happen. Barry Melrose picked the wings to go all the way…Does it mean anything? Of course not. At the end of it all he could look like a genious, or he could look silly.

by Avaughn on Apr 15, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just think all the discussion is silly

Talk yourself in circles if you want, but numbers mean nothing. Whether your a Hawks fan or a Preds fan, you know it should be a great series. And I am excited to get to see a healthy lineup for once.

by Avaughn on Apr 15, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have to talk ourselves silly!!!

What in the hell ELSE would we do until 7:30 Central tomorrow!!! I’d pull my hair out if it wasn’t so hard to GROW A BEARD!!!!

AGGGHHHH!!!!

go preds

by Poiju on Apr 15, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey chris I found an article for you

http://www.fromtherink.com/2010/4/15/1424096/how-to-beat-the-neutral-zone-trap
I’ll be passing it along to the Q-Stache

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by TrialsBass on Apr 15, 2010 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

,

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by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

It will be okay

It will all be over soon! Keep your chin up.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 15, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

I didn’t just post to pick on Chris. I did read and enjoy the article.

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by TrialsBass on Apr 15, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a good article,

But I was really looking for NSH to be mentioned, I think Chris would of had an embolizim!

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 15, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it was a good read. Had nothing to do with either of our teams though! :)

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by Chris Burton on Apr 15, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yet

We’ll see what happens tomorrow.

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by TrialsBass on Apr 15, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chicago's good

I’ll give them all their due. We’ve gotta play well.

by Sam Page on Apr 15, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I've said it before

Game 1 tells us everything. In my opinion, whoever wins tomorrow wins the series. Preds have to get their first road win out of the way and build some confidence

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by Aditya T (smashville) on Apr 15, 2010 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll go with Game 2 will be a better tell

I think who adjusts best from Game 1, has the upperhand. But even than, I can easily see this series going 7.

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 15, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed...

1st game could be a flooky win for either team…how they come out in game two should tell the tale.

by TitanPredBearFan on Apr 16, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

How?

Am i missing something? On paper you are saying the Blackhawks are better, but stating hypothetical opinions of how we could easily be better. The proof shows they are better and have been better all season. The proof is not just on paper, but on the ice where they won 52 games and beat us 4 to 2 in the season series. The fact, according to this blog, is they are better in just about every facet of the game.

To be honest, this post made me feel worse about our chances.

by 29thWard on Apr 15, 2010 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Well...

…at least you’re remaining confident and positive!

Insert “I’m being realistic… blah blah blah” comment below…

by Poiju on Apr 15, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It ain't all Rainbows & Sunshine...

We as Preds fans could blow all the smoke we want, but all of us that live in reality know that Nashville will have to play like Kane slept with Captain Arnott’s wife for the Preds to take this series. Do I think it can happen?? Hell ya I do…the Preds are built to be a playoff-successful squad for the first time…ever. Great experienced D-Men, hot goalie and most of all, a healthy, hungry team.

by TitanPredBearFan on Apr 16, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Team Depth question...

“As to Chicago, they remind me somewhat of Team Russia heading into the Olympics (except without the goaltending credentials). Their top-end talent has fans drooling, but when the role players hit the ice, the Preds should have the edge.”

I have a question. Why do you think this is true?

I have Dumont, Legwand, Tootoo, Smithson, Boyd and Belak with 54 goals and 138 points.

I have Ladd, Madden, Versteeg, Eager, Frasier, and Kopecky with 71 goals and 161 points. And that is with Buff as a D man because of injuries and not on the fourth line. If you have him as a forward instead of Frasier (TK plays center) then add 10 more goals and 15 more points to those totals.

The Hawks have 6 players with 20 or more goals on their team. The Preds have 2.

Hossa has as many points (51) as the top Preds players and he did that in 57 games. The Hawks have 4 players with at least 66 points. The Hawks are going to role 4 lines and team depth is one of the reasons people are picking the Hawks to make a run.

by DaleHalas on Apr 16, 2010 1:11 AM EDT reply actions  

You're measuring everything in points scored...

Preds win in shutdown, tight games. 1-0, 2-1 are The goal differential gap comes in big blowouts against them. They’ve had only a couple big wins really.

I think the Preds D is better at stopping goals. I think the Chicago team in general is better at scoring them. It comes down to who can do what better 4 times out of 7, how hungry the players are, and luck.

I’m looking forward to a great series.

by DonBorvio on Apr 16, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

got distracted at work...

1-0 and 2-1 are common game scores.

by DonBorvio on Apr 16, 2010 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its not about points

Actually the thing that is least understood about the Hawks is that they are actually a defensive based team. Before they lost all of their right side d-men to injuries they were top two in Goals Against. They still ended up top 5 in the league with only one of those guys coming back.

BTW, Campbell and KJ were actually their 4th and 5th D-men. Most people don’t know how good Hjalmarsson is on the D side.

Anyway, the Hawks just happen to be a defensive team that ended up top 3 in goals scored. And the goal scoring is much more balanced than this blogger was stating. That was my main point about points. :)

by DaleHalas on Apr 16, 2010 2:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are such a dreamer

The Predetors arent going to win, Thats why they are the seventh seed. They will get stomped on by Chicago!! Obviously a Nashville writtten and biased article.

by supertuffmike on Apr 16, 2010 7:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Doh!!!

You’re on a Nashville Predator’s blog…did you get lost on the way to grocery store or something.

by TitanPredBearFan on Apr 16, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I see that he has one comment on SB Nation and signed up yesterday. Hmmm…

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by Chris Burton on Apr 16, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

..and with a name like “supertuff”…uh, nuff said.

by TitanPredBearFan on Apr 16, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

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