Powerless PP costs Predators in Chicago
by Dirk Hoag on Apr 24, 2010 6:38 PM EDT
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The Nashville Predators had no business competing in Game Five in Chicago, none. After two periods they were outshot 24-8, and headed into the 3rd period down 3-2. Despite all that, they took a 4-3 lead midway through, and when Marian Hossa pushed Dan Hamhuis into the boards from behind with just over a minute left (more on that later), it looked like the Preds would head back to Nashville with a critical lead in this series. There was 1:03 left to play, and the Predators were on the power play. Lock it up, right?
It all fell apart, however, thanks once again to that pitiful Predators power play. They gave up a shorthanded goal to Patrick Kane with just 14 seconds left to send the game to OT, and failed to score early in the extra session with almost four minutes more PP time. Just seconds after the Blackhawks killed off Hossa's major, he scored to give Chicago the 5-4 win.
Game Six comes up Monday in Nashville, with the Preds needing a win to stay alive and force a Game 7 in Chicago.
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- The power play has become an absolute embarrassment to the Predators. They stand 0-for-21 on the series, and gave up a shorthanded goal that cost them this game. At this point, they might as well put out a fivesome of Tootoo-Spaling-Boyd with Bouillon and Belak on the points.
- Was a 5-minute major for Boarding on Marian Hossa the right call? Could it have been called Checking From Behind, which carries with it an automatic Game Misconduct? Will the NHL review this hit for possible suspension? At the time, NBC analyst Eddie Olczyk (who works the Blackhawks games) compared it to the Ovechkin-Campbell hit, calling it even worse. Ovechkin got two games for that one.
- For the record, Ovechkin got 5 minutes and a Game Misconduct for Boarding on Campbell back on March 14.
- Jason Arnott still hasn't registered a point. He had a few flashes in the offensive zone, but his production is desperately needed.
- Denis Grebeshkov played over 11 minutes, and was a +1 with two assists. I'm glad to see him (finally) playing.
- Martin Erat had his best game of the series, scoring twice. I really don't like the way he gets too close to the points on the PP, making it easy for one guy to defend both he and the Nashville defenseman.
- Pekka Rinne was OK, but had another bumbled pucked that almost led to a shorthanded goal by John Madden.
- Did anyone catch word on Dustin Boyd? He didn't play after taking just one shift in the second period.
- As massively disappointing as this game was, we know that the Preds can bounce back with a determined effort in Game 6 at Bridgestone Arena on Monday. Can the fans do their part as well? If you haven't gotten your tickets yet, there's a way to save on those tickets...
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Embarrassing...
Simply embarrassing
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
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I’m just now able to type.
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Erat
Why did Erat have to try and make a play? Why couldn’t he just be happy killing the clock behind the net? We were on the PP with Niemi still in the net. We had the puck down low with possession with 30 seconds left. Why Erat, why? The most heartbreaking aspect is that Erat was so awesome, but he really did cost us the game trying to do too much.
Re: Erat
While he was the one who turned the puck over, here’s what I think. All of our guys wanted a PP goal so bad, all of them out there seemed to be going about things the wrong way. When your power play is as bad as ours has been and they are as skilled as they are short- handed, all of our guys should have not been playing so aggressive. I think a timeout should have been called, either before the PP or after the TO and we find a way to ice the puck. Just seemed to be poor managment at the end.
To think the guy that should’ve been tossed scores the winner.
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I am literally sick to my stomach about that
by hockeydekefreak on Apr 24, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I am too. Like actual nausea.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 24, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
haven’t eaten all day, and might not at all now
by hockeydekefreak on Apr 24, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I had some chicken and awesome bread ready for postgame. Now I just want beer.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 24, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotta go with Ward on for Pred of the game...
…because if he hadn’t scored that shorthanded goal, sparking some life into the team, it was over.
yeah, you’re right, I voted Erat, but wouldn’t have if I’d have thought about it for a minute.
by hockeydekefreak on Apr 24, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
You've gotta have faith.
If we win Game 6, it’s anyone’s series.
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Apr 24, 2010 7:03 PM EDT reply actions
what ever you are drinking, save me some
by predswilrule on Apr 24, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly think we are in an okay position
Probably because I was expecting a loss even before the game started and I was ready for this.
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Apr 24, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
so was i
i already expected it to end monday, but after a loss in this fashion i really think there is no way possible to beat a better team.
by predswilrule on Apr 24, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
pass the crack!
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by Chris Burton on Apr 24, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
hossa
i didnt think it warranted ejection. a 2 hand push w/ hammer in a vunerable position. he didnt run him thru. if it had been in october maybe, but no chance now and on that play probably rightfully so.
it was the ref’s decision to throw him out or not, they made the wrong call, period.
by hockeydekefreak on Apr 24, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
But we'll play better at home.
And I would like our chances better in a game 7 than I did today, because they’d be freaked out that they were even having to play a game 7.
I think
That kinda loss is too devastating to come back from.
especially
to win 2 games against the better team
by predswilrule on Apr 24, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Grebs was great out there tonight, just as we hoped...
… no help on the pp, but still a great game for him. Not sure if it matters anymore though.
by hockeydekefreak on Apr 24, 2010 7:18 PM EDT reply actions
If Hossa’s gone and Hornqvist and Grebs play in Game 6, I’ll light a small candle of hope.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 24, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
You know I know it sounds bad to say just as it’s hard to type but I am almost glad we didn’t win after playing most of the game very poorly! Because If we would have won as great as that would have been our boys would think they didn’t have to bring their A game and that their poor effort would be good enough to win anytime.
by TrafficNfront on Apr 24, 2010 7:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
A couple of points
Hossa’s hit on Hamuis was very similar to Ovechkin’s hit on Campbell. We’ll see if the NHL has the XXX’s to suspend Hossa in the playoffs.
We are still alive and while this loss is incredibly disappointing, if we can win at home Monday, it comes down to a single game. We have proven we can play with them and still have a chance.
On Monday, be loud and be proud! Go Preds
I’m sorry but I have to disagree with the comparison to the Hossa and Ovechkin hits, and I say this not only because I’m a Hawks fan. Ovechkin deserved suspension as a repeat offender, but his hit was worse as well. His hands started down at his hip and he actually shoved Campbell pretty good. I didn’t even think it was dirty, just unfortunate how reckless Ovechkin was on the hit. It looked to me like Hossa barely touched Hamhuis. Even Crisp and Weber agreed as they were shocked a penalty was called.
Hmm well if something or someone is leaning over does it take the same force to knock that object/person over as it would when ur balanced? Does it matter how hard or soft a cross check is no it’s still a cross check!
by TrafficNfront on Apr 24, 2010 7:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I disagree
I also share Chicago allegiances but this is a bit much. Hossa knows what he is doing and he knows what he did. And whether or not the hit is worse just because Campbell was more severely injured is debatable at best. A crosscheck is a crosscheck.
by Great Paperclip on Apr 24, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with the disagreement
I’m also a Chicago guy and Hossa’s hit was clearly close enough to Ovechkin’s to warrant a suspension. “Unfortunate” simply isn’t a excuse. In fact, I remember Ovechkin said something similar about his hit on Campbell. When a player is in a vunerable position like that you can’t take advantage of it. Hamhuis had position on him going behind the net, Hossa has to let him have that space.
On the other hand, however, it’s not like the refs missed the call entirely. Nor did they short change it with a minor. Hossa was in the box where he belonged when the Preds had a man advantage and a one goal lead with one minute left. Not to mention he was in the box for the start of the next period when the preds had a four minute long powerplay. The fact that Hossa scored the goal may sting more than any other player, but the Preds gave this game away; Hossa didn’t take it.
by Billy Charlesbois on Apr 24, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what stings, yes
and you’re right. I would’ve absolutely lost it if a two minute was given there. But you’re right, the Preds lost this one themselves
by Great Paperclip on Apr 24, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
2nd time in 2 games...
The NHL needs to send a message to the Blackhawks…
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
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by Michaeltastic on Apr 24, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
besides it was your own announcer that compared it
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
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by Michaeltastic on Apr 24, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
NBC analyst Eddie Olczyk (who works the Blackhawks games)
Olczyk goes out of his way on National broadcasts to NOT appear to be a homer. Even so I think what he said was that the position on the rink of Hossa’s hit was a more dangerous location than where Ovie’s Hit occurred.
Anyway, anyone get an update on Hamhuis? Is he ok? Campbell got hurt so bad because he went into the boards head and shoulder first. It looked like Hamhuis managed to protect himself at least a little bit.
Again, here’s hopin’ your Hammer isn’t hurt too bad. Watching this series has been way too much fun to see anyone get hurt…
What exactly is Hornqvist's injury problem?
Is he out with the same injury from the end of the regular season? Or did he re-injure himself in Game 1? I’m thinking the latter. And is Trotz being too cautious, like he was in Grebeshkov? Maybe Horny is ready to play but Trotz has held him back because he’s not in “the flow” of the playoffs. Surely he has to return then. It’s do-or-die time now. We’ve competed hard with Chicago WITHOUT Hornqvist. Who thinks he’ll make a difference if he returns in Game 6? Look what Grebeshkov did in his return! Shame on Trotz for holding him out!
He had a broken bone in his hand. Won’t say where I got that from, but pretty reliable insider. Regardless, tape that stick to his glove and get him in there. He only needs to move his stick a couple of inches if he is standing in front of the net.
that would make sense
Nothing less than a broken bone would seem to keep him out given this situation.
More fun than a stick to the face!
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4th Try at Game 6
Does anyone honestly believe this team will even compete much less win Game 6 after absolutely choking up the win in Game 5? Renne is going to have to hold them to 1 goal or less for us to have any chance in game 6.
He isn’t good enough to do it and Barry isn’t a good enough coach to get it done either. After this choke…and what else do you call Erat’s terrible giveaway in the offensive zone. Why didn’t the coaches address keeping the puck in their zone?
This team from management down to the coaching staff doesn’t know what they are doing. With just ONE real scoring threat we win this series. As it is Chicago will close us out on Monday. And when that happens it is time for Barry Trotz to move on in his life and for us to find another coach. You’ve had your chance coach…it is time for someone else to have an opportunity to suck.
Let me know the next time your are playing in the NHL against Chicago in the closing minutes of a playoff game in which you are leading. I bet you make a mistake.
Cisar,
Perhaps. But I’m not making $1.75 Million like Martin Erat either.
I didn’t expect much coming into this series and so far the only difference between this and every other series they have played is one road win instead of winning the first 2 at home. And they have NEVER been able to stave off elimination once down 3 games. So winning at home in game 6 would be a positive surprise.
Not trying to play Devils Advocate here
It happens (Erat TO)! Think Game 1 on your go ahead goal. A piss poor play, the player should have known better on (Clear the Zone). If that had not happened, that game could have easily gone to OT and/or have had a different outcome.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 24, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
If you're so inclined,
call 615-353-2231 and tell them what you think about their decision to switch to all-weather. I did. They said they’ve received thousands of complaints. It’s not like someone who wanted to watch the weather couldn’t have changed channels. And anyone who knows the quality of the weather coverage would’ve been on channel 2, anyway.
“Station policy” was the excuse. Perhaps station policy will be reviewed if they receive enough complaints.
My teams are cursed on the power play
Why is it that my two teams (Preds and Caps) have scored a grand total of ONE power play goal? Each team has scored more shorthanded-goals than PP goals. That is pathetic. I won’t start a rant about Washington here (I’ll just say they have a lot of talent), but is Hornqvist’s absence really hurting us that much? He did lead the team in PP goals. I think it is safe to say that the one reason we are losing this series despite competing well is the PP. We found a way to win despite mediocre special-teams all season, and now it’s kicked out our legs from under us.
ANYONE NOTICE?
Anyone notice that Suter quit skating for a second on Tomas Kopecky’s goal? He was going back and he held up and looked back over his shoulder allowing Kopecky to have his way with Pekka. Did I miss something? Why would he do that? I feel if he skated full throttle he gets there in time to thwart Kopecky’s attempt. Strange time to decide to loaf.
So,
3 games from now we’ll be playing the Sharks.
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Apr 25, 2010 12:34 AM EDT reply actions
wouldn't have it any other way ;)
WCF: NSH-Detroit!
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
no quitting!
guys. i know that loss was tough, but we had them ready to jump off a cliff until that last burst at the end.
there’s only one thing left to do:
bring it back to nashville and finish the job. forget about saturday, play with more intensity, and shut them down.
there’s no way we lose this series at home.
lace em up boys!
Still can't believe what happened at the end of the game!
Any other preds fans lose any sleep last night?
ridiculous
any team that can’t kill off one stinkin’ minute with a man advantage doesn’t deserve to win the series… they could’ve just passed the puck around the perimeter like they always do when they have the PP… it’s inexcusable, whether it’s coaching, the players, whatever, you cannot let a team score short-handed to tie the game with less than a minute left… the preds should move and save us nashvillians from this kind of embarrassment and heartbreak again
<=B
the preds should move and save us nashvillians from this kind of embarrassment and heartbreak again
If you could keep these sort of comments to an absolute minimum, that’d be awesome. Can’t stand this sentiment.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Put a fork in em...they are done.
Facts are facts.
by Atlanta Flames on Apr 26, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Except that isn’t a fact. There’s still at minimum sixty minutes left.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 26, 2010 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Head explode. Can’t debate like this.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 26, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm surprised you still call it a debate
I know brick walls that are more responsive
by puppetmasterp on Apr 26, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
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