I have made the decision that this play does not warrant supplemental discipline after considering all of the facts, including reviewing the video and speaking with Mr. Hossa. This play is distinguishable from recent incidents by a number of factors, including the degree of contact involved; the fact that the consequences of the play do not appear to be as severe; that this was a hockey play involving a race for the puck; that Mr. Hossa is not a repeat offender and that the call of a major penalty by the Referee was significant and appropriate.
The NHL's Chief Finger-Wagger Colin Campbell talks about why he didn't suspend Marian Hossa for his hit on Dan Hamhuis in Game 5.
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We just somehow knew it wouldn't happen, didn't we?
that this was a hockey play involving a race for the puck; that Mr. Hossa is not a repeat offender
- Mike Millbury showed the OV hit side-by-side to the Hossa hit on NBC today. They are virtually identical. Now I know OV is a repeat offender. But, in my opinion repeat offenses should only be taken into account to determine the severity of the punishment. It shouldn’t be used to decide whether or not to punish a player. So basically he’s saying… since you’ve never done it before, it’s ok? So everyone gets one free shot? This is insanity.
- My modem went down after the game yesterday (to top it off) and boy, did I miss a lot of conversation around here!
by hockeydekefreak on Apr 25, 2010 7:44 PM EDT reply actions
Readt this and let me know if you think the two hits are still the same
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 25, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
don’t think I need to read about something that I can see plain as day right in front of my face
by hockeydekefreak on Apr 25, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Then...
Someone must need glasses as bad as the refs…
by doubleohpsycho on Apr 25, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Because that is being open minded, right?
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 25, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m as open as they come. But why would I read about something you have to see to understand? I’ve obviously looked at it, dude.
by hockeydekefreak on Apr 25, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
That's cool, all I asked wasgor you to read it.
If you have the same opinion afterwards fine, but to say I’m not even going to consider what the other side says is fairly closed minded, and that’s what you did.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 25, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve done all the readin’ and lookin’ I need to do.
by hockeydekefreak on Apr 25, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
hang on, I’ll find you a reading list, too
by hockeydekefreak on Apr 25, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Since you don’t want to read, here are some pretty pictures.
Ovie initiates from the back
Hossa initiates from under the armpit
Ovie, puck is already a good 5-10 feet away
Hossa, puck is right there
by doubleohpsycho on Apr 25, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
...his hand aren't touching him at this angle...
if you move it 1 frame forward his hand is right underneath the right shoulder blade…
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
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by Michaeltastic on Apr 25, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to address this later
I’ve really got to get through this thesis though
by Great Paperclip on Apr 25, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
subject lines
I know they teach you that over there
by Great Paperclip on Apr 25, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Off-topic
But a Japers’ Rink commenter made a Greasemonkey script that can open or collapse any comment. It’s called “Toggle Japers’ Rink Comments” (and you can add to the list of websites it works on from Greasemonkey, a Firefox add-on)
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by red army line on Apr 26, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The real unfortunate thing about pics
Is they are a captured single point in time, and alone fail to show an entire sequence of events. (Conspiracy nuts love doing this, not calling you one, just a side note))
Following your still of Ovie, Ovie lunged forward and extended his arms, whereas Hossa did not
As for the puck, the pics do not show in Ovie-Soupy, the puck was moving back and to the right (away from them), and for Hossa-Hamhuis they were chasing the puck.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 25, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I see what you are trying to do
And agree but unfortunately still can only show so much at times, and this is one of them
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 25, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
agree about puck-position, but that first pic, no way is that from the back, looks like the side to me.
by hockeydekefreak on Apr 25, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
here's a still from 1:12
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
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by Michaeltastic on Apr 25, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
I just noticed on the first pic the “SUX” on the NBC logo!
Hilarious!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 25, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Ovechkin Hossa (Blackhawks lifelong fan perspective)
Ovechkin – puck not w/in 15 feet of Campbell
Hossa – Hamuis has puck and Hossa actually wins puck.
That is the difference in the plays. Ovechkin intent to injure. Hossa not.
Ovechkin should have been gone for 20 games. Hossa should have missed at least 1 probably 2.
My kids play hockey. These hits from behind need to be severely punished. If they are not, some 12 year old is going to hit my defenseman son from behind while he chases down a dump in because he saw Marian Hossa and Crazy 8 do it in the NHL. ZERO tolerance. Same for head shots.
Chewing gum?
Agreed that OV’s was a later hit, but I can’t believe there was intent to injure in either case.
The big difference between the two hits for me remains that Hamhuis was in a much more dangerous position for a catastrophic injury. If Hossa pushes harder Dan is eating through a straw today.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 26, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
That's why I say ZERO tolerance
If the on ice official calls a major penalty for boarding, then he obviously thought there was intent.
Ovechkin was trying to run Campbell. The puck was played. Look above at the pictures.
I think if you look at the Hossa play and not the still images that really don’t show anything, he is trying to turn Hamuis, and while he should not have made that play and deserved the 5 and more, he was not trying to run him.
Hamuis and Campbell both knew the player was behind them. Neither turned their back. These people whao say that they should better protect themselves, don’tknow what they are talking about. You cannot hit from behind. You know it, and Hamuis and Campbell are not expecting it. that’s why it’s dangerous.
My opinion.
I am glad Hamuis is going to be OK.
Chewing gum?
Everyone has talked about the fact that Hossa’s not a “repeat offender”. Yeah, ok, fine. Don’t agree with this at all, but it is what it is. One thing I’m still questioning is the timing of this hit, There was about a minute left in the game. Did the timing not come in to play at all? I thought there were harsher punishments handed out to guys that do dumb stuff in the waning moments of the game.
by hockeydekefreak on Apr 26, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought there were harsher punishments handed out to guys that do dumb stuff in the waning moments of the game.
I think those are basically so you don’t send out your goons in the last minutes of a blowout to beat up everyone on the other team.
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by red army line on Apr 26, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
And who decides who the goons are? A guy could be fine one minute, then do something goon-like the next.
by hockeydekefreak on Apr 26, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I was exaggerating to get the point across. It’s more like you send out your tougher players in a blowout to mix it up with the other team, for really no reason other than some sort of carry on effect to the next game like intimidation or injury.
The rule was why Chara and Malkin got automatic suspensions (which were rescinded).
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by red army line on Apr 26, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
fully understand, but I think everyone should be held to the same standard
by hockeydekefreak on Apr 26, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
One thing I’m still questioning is the timing of this hit
Did the timing not come in to play at all? I thought there were harsher punishments handed out to guys that do dumb stuff in the waning moments of the game.
No, the only rule like that is concerning “Instigating.” There are no additional penalties for boarding in the last XX minutes of a game.
If Hossa pushes harder Dan is eating through a straw today.
You hit the nail on the head there Chris. If Hossa pushed a little harder it would have resulted in a hit similar to Ovechkin’s hit on Campbell.
Look both hits originated right around the goal line. Both players momentum were towards the boards. Ovechkins hit was harder and the hit lasted slightly longer resulting in Campbell having to overcome a harder hit with less time to overcome it before hitting the boards.
That little bit extra was the difference in how those two players hit the boards. One managed to protect himself at least a little bit. The other went into the boards and "face planted". And that is still the difference in why one hit got the GM and the other did not.
BTW, if you look at Campbell after the hit the first reaction he has is to reach for his head. Given him going into the boards the way he did and respond the way he did, I am NOT surprised that Ovechkin got a GM. Remember you can only get the GM for a head injury or being hit in the head area.
Hey
This is just going to make for an even more jacked up environment tomorrow. We all knew this was how it was going to play out. Regular season would have been differant ruling. Shake it off press and force 7. We already know we can get them there.
by southernfriedhockey on Apr 25, 2010 8:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Honestly
I jumped over here to see what your guys opinions were and I expected to be reading 10-15 fan posts about why the NHL hates the Nashville Predators (otherwise known as Red Wing Fan Syndrome) And what do I see? A Bunch of fans that while disappointed in the ruling (completely understandable) are being completely reasonable about it and even some agreeing with the call. You know what that is…. That my friends is class! You guys are a lot more knowledgeable and classy fan base than you get credit for. Good luck! and get ready for game 6 because I know its going to be a great game from both sides of the ice!
Drink it up!
I think we all realize that this hit had anything to do with us losing the game...
That was our horrid PP and absoluteley no situational awareness.
The only problem I have with the initial call, which if called correctly would have left Hossa ejected.
Whether or not he should be suspended is a toss-up…
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
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by Michaeltastic on Apr 25, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
*is with
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
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by Michaeltastic on Apr 25, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Whos to say that even with Hossa
exjected that someone else couldnt have potted that last goal. What ifs are something that can drive any passionate sports fan crazy if you think about them too much. Old news now… bring on game 6!
Drink it up!
yeah
I’m not gonna lie. I’m almost more upset with them calling the penatly than anything. 5-on-5 and we win that game :-P
by Great Paperclip on Apr 25, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
True
But I just hate Hossa.
I knew once it was tied that we had lost the game. I’m sure every Pred fan knew that deep in their heart…
Christie kicks it high and short...Gonna be fielded by Lorenzo Neal at the 25...He dishes it back to Wycheck...He throws it across the field to Dyson...
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by Michaeltastic on Apr 25, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Somebody else ‘might’ have gone to the bench for a change.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
it's hard to say
especially with the intermission in the middle of the penalty, giving the team time to plan and since it worked for Kopecky earlier in the game.
but the what ifs are completely crazy making, just make sure the fridge is full for tomorrow night.
Time for some thrillin' heroics!
Yeah, I guess. Just hard to think about.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
pretty much the only positive is that there wasn’t an earthquake that time.
Time for some thrillin' heroics!
If the league decided to suspend Hossa – then the league in as much agrees that the officials had something to do with the outcome of the game – then what??? He should have been given a game misconduct – just because they think there isn’t an injury, and no one ever knows for sure, should not be the determining factor!! (remember Smithson)
Hamhuis' post-practice interview
http://predators.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?catid=737&id=67583
Such a classy guy, as always. Not only is he so good-looking (an aside; female fan here), but he’s outspoken about his faith, and has young men and women with mental challenges as his guests on game nights.
So glad he’s doing okay! Could easily have turned out otherwise. I’m sure that this incident will be considered should Ho$$a be so reckless again.
I think this is BS, but y’all know that by now. No reason to go over all that again. Campbell needs a serious look in the mirror.
Unfortunate, but thats the way the cookie crumbles. Best way to stick it to them is win Game 6.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2010 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
One we can agree on...
How ’bout them Yotes?!
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Apr 25, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions
Yep!
How about that team that was supposed to have been eliminated early, forcing a game 7. I like that scenario!
Yea and everyone said
They have a tougher road to climb than the wings (before game 6) Now I think the wings have a tougher road. They have to play on the road, in a hostile building, and there egos have to be deflated after that loss today when they were absolutely DOMINATED! I like the Yotes to close this series out!
Drink it up!
They better beat Scum
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Apr 25, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be pretty awesome!
Not because I hate scum……………………………………. NO defiantly because I HATE scum!
Drink it up!
But I think you're missing the double meaning of my post...
by LuvthePreds on Apr 25, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I caught it
I just chose not to draw attention to it! Lol… There isn’t anything really more exciting than game 7 in the NHL playoffs, but so long as the right team comes out on top… cough cough Blackhawks cough cough!
Drink it up!
hey, there were more than a few of us at SCH
expecting this to go to 6 or 7 games. honest.
by puppetmasterp on Apr 26, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
It is
the motion of poetry
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Apr 25, 2010 9:48 PM EDT reply actions
since you’ve never done it before, it’s ok?
I know OV is a repeat offender. But, in my opinion repeat offenses should only be taken into account to determine the severity of the punishment. It shouldn’t be used to decide whether or not to punish a player. So basically he’s saying… since you’ve never done it before, it’s ok?
I think the biggest misconception out there is concerning the actual punishment of the Campbell hit. If Ovechkin was a first time offender I believe the most he would reasonably expect to be punished for that hit was the 5 minute major and AT MOST the Game Misconduct.
So in my opinion there really wasn’t any reasonable expectation that Hossa was going to get suspended. To me the only real question from the league was whether Hossa should have gotten a GM.
Since he didn’t the question to me is still why Ovechkin got the GM and Hossa didn’t. And as I have said before it really does look like the way the two players hit the boards is the difference in the GM calls. And since that is in my opinion one of the significant reasons that Campbell was hurt far worse than Hamhuis was, I think it is a legitimate difference.
My kids found two dimes on the floor at the grocery store today.
Made them wonder what Kane would’ve done for them.
by LuvthePreds on Apr 25, 2010 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
What I wouldn't give to have been a fly on the taxi that night...
somehow I think there was more that went on than the media knows
by blackhawkeyes on Apr 26, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Dont Get Me Wrong....
….im a preds fan and have been all my life but maybe the only real difference between the ovechkin and hossa hits is that hamhuis is a gongshow and is used to being knocked around so he knows how to fall properly. sorry. im not a hamhuis fan
i say all my life….really i mean since 98/99
by GordyGoHard on Apr 25, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
C’mon. You think he fell on purpose?
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
no im not saying that at all. he was clearly pushed. all im saying is hammer is used to picking himself off the ice. hes tougher than campbell
by GordyGoHard on Apr 25, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you think if Hamhuis
Had a concussion (Possible, unconfirmed or denied) a broken Clavicle and Broken Ribs he would be doing to hot today?
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 25, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats kinda crazy. Campbell broke bones. Hamhuis was incredibly shaken and sore, but nothing broke.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
And Campbell is incredibly durable. Just hit the boards at the wrong angle.
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by red army line on Apr 26, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Regardless....
must suck to be on the losing end of the ice of the stanley cup finals two years in a row. maybe its you hossa. preds beat chicago in 7
How many Hockey Players have come and gone
and never got too once play for the SC? I bet each and everyone of them would have loved to have had just one chance to do it, let alone two. I see it as a blessing for the Hawks to him, Madden, Kopy their to help guide this young team to it, and keep their heads on straight.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 25, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
i see it as yet another curse in the windy city. as if yall dont have enough of those
by GordyGoHard on Apr 25, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Getting a little ahead of yourself to say that Hossa will have another chance?
Or has he already been in the finals twice? It’s hard to remember, given all the times he’s changed teams.
by LuvthePreds on Apr 25, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
08 with PIT lost to DET
09 with DET lost to PIT
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 25, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, yeah! He left PIT to chase the cup....
…only to end up on the wrong side. Bummer for him.
by LuvthePreds on Apr 25, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW,
I put the word “smile” between the marks over the period and comma, and that was omitted. Just want to make clear that you know I’m just ribbing you….
by LuvthePreds on Apr 26, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Hossa started with the Senators, was traded to the Thrashers, and traded again to the Penguins. He decided to sign with Scum because he wanted to win a Cup, that didn’t work out so he signed a long term deal with a team that has potential to be competitive for a long time with the Hawks. I honestly, don’t understand how that makes him a bad person for trying to win a Cup. For once you have a player who is concerned with winning rather than take a huge check for a team that can’t compete. I actually find it refreshing to see winning put above all else for a change.
yea great to see a player who puts himself above everything and everyone so much so that he team hops. great loyalty. maybe he should think about other players (like his teammates). but i guess it doesnt matter as long as one of those teams happens to be yours right
by GordyGoHard on Apr 26, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry meant to put that reply on Hawkfan08’s post
by GordyGoHard on Apr 26, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
you talk about great loyalty
even though he signed a 12 year deal? I would say he was trying to be pretty loyal to the Blackhawks organization when he signs a 12 year deal…. if it was a 1 or 2 year deal I would give you that one.
Drink it up!
I'd argue that he did show loyalty
by signing a long-term contract. If he was interested in team-hopping, he could’ve negotiated for a shorter one.
I remember reading on PensBurgh that despite feeling slighted with how Hossa left, his leaving ended up giving them more cap space (ability to resign Staal) as well as adding depth that helped them in the playoffs. It’s not like Hossa was the only thing going for them (i.e. Thrashers + Kovy).
Also, the thing I always get stuck on is that Hossa was free agent. Isn’t the point of free agency that you technically don’t have loyalty to any team when looking to sign somewhere?
He didn’t need to show loyalty to Scum. They entered the one year contract both knowing it was one year as Scum could only afford to keep him one year and stay under the cap. There was never any intent of being loyal on either side. It was a trial marriage with the only goal to win a Cup. A 12 year deal with Chicago shows loyalty if you ask me
by Hawkfan08 on Apr 26, 2010 7:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I *said* I was ribbing Chi fans.
And we don’t think he’s a bad person for trying to win a cup. All the players have that goal. We’ll just think he’s a bad person if he makes more reckless hits on his opponents.
by LuvthePreds on Apr 26, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
to be fair
he doesn’t have a history, and he is usual pretty good about avoiding those kind of hits
by Great Paperclip on Apr 26, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
I saw that…I’m saying it most likely won’t happen again
by Great Paperclip on Apr 26, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Will be interesting to see the Preds' response.
Wonder whether there’ll be retaliation, or whether they believe it was unintentional.
by LuvthePreds on Apr 26, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
eh, I have to doubt it
I think Hammer is ok, and plus Trotz has a really disciplined club down there
by Great Paperclip on Apr 26, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
yea i agree. i doubt it. if there would have been it would have already happened. trotzy will tell the boys to get retaliation on the scoreboard where it counts
by GordyGoHard on Apr 26, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly
The Preds can not afford to retaliate, they need to focus on only winning. If the play any of the game to hit Hossa, I’m sure it will result in the Hawks denting twine!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Apr 26, 2010 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Special teams
Well seeing as how bad our special teams suck! I couldnt agree with you more. We are paying for not going out and getting a Goal scorer. We have a ton of great setup guys this season. Our only consistent G scorer was Horny. And he is out. So now what? I am so pissed at this team that I dont know if I will be watching the game tonight. I have friends that were grabbing some tickets this am to the game and asked if I wanted to go. Any other time, I would have been hyped and ready to go. But not this time. I wish them luck and hope they win. But I just dont feel it. We have got to prove ourselves as a team that wants to win. And we just havent done that.
As for the hit, well………a hit from behind like that, needs to be penalized. I say they need to set a standard. All this little stupid stuff shouldnt matter. (hit from the side/back, speed, size, etc) too much gray area there. It was a shitty hit and he got penalized. I do agree that maybe he should get a game or two out of it. But not as much as OV. Anyways, good luck tonight to you Chicago fans. But I hope the Preds make the second round and break the cycle.
"no injury on the play"
The whole point to handing out suspensions is to keep guys from getting hurt out there, is it not? To prevent these type of plays in the future, right? If you wait for an injury to happen to hand out a suspension, then you really haven’t kept anyone from getting hurt, have you? The guys already hurt, too late. see what I mean here?
by hockeydekefreak on Apr 26, 2010 10:31 AM EDT reply actions
yes, and it's an excellant point
The reason people are so up in arms about these kinds of hits is b/c of their potential for serious injury, and you never want that potential to be realized….at any level (NHL or otherwise). Colin Campbell’s problem is that he’s trying to make future decisions jive with past ones in some semblance of a “rational” manner. This is why they end up looking at the nuances of the letter of the rules……
Sometimes i think Campbell would be better off simply issuing a statement that reads “Ok, maybe we made some mistakes/bad calls in the past. Let’s clean the slate going forward…..”
by puppetmasterp on Apr 26, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The reason people are so up in arms about these kinds of hits
I think the reason people are so up in arms over these kinds of hits are because people find out what the punishments really are for them. Most people are aghast and think the punishments are too light.
I’ve seen similar things happen when people take a look at the punishments doled our from our Judicial System…
The whole point to handing out suspensions is to keep guys from getting hurt out there, is it not?
Actually, the only real suspensions in the NHL are given out for Match Penalties (Which means intent to injure) and players with multiple Game Misconducts (repeaters).
5 Minute majors are the punishments for infractions that are deemed too violent but NOT intentional.
Game Misconducts can also be added but they are generally concerning possible injuries from hits to the head or head area.
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