If there's a vacancy, who should be the Predators' next captain?
Due to The Great Flood, I was temporarily displaced. Apologies all around for the tardiness, and here is part two of my thoughts on the state of the Predators' captaincy. Part one can be found here.
Last week two weeks ago In April we discussed the question of whether or not Jason Arnott should be relieved of his captain's duties and make way for someone more comfortable with the job. The poll results were heavily tilted in favor of doing so, and its due to that, then, that we ask the next logical question - who should take over?
After the jump, pros and cons to the four most feasible candidates.
The Likely Candidates
Why: Perhaps the most dedicated player on the team (evidenced by his Masterton Trophy win), Sully has long been a fan favorite. The last guy to take a shift off, he'll bust it whether up 3-0 or down 0-3. Sullivan makes a great interview and unlike Jason Arnott, has never won a Cup. There's no doubt he'd like some hardware before he hangs 'em up.
Why not: With just the one year left on his deal, its doubtful that Sullivan gets re-signed, and probable that he retires. If you appointed Sully captain, its likely we'd be going over the same debate this time next year.
Why: The Predators' first ever draft pick (no. 2 overall, 1998), Legwand leads the franchise in all time points (369), goals (142), assists (228), and games played (622). In a sense, 'Leggy' is the Nashville Predators. He plays defensively responsible hockey and works hard whether slumping or streaking. Barry Trotz trusts David Legwand perhaps more than any other forward. His contract runs for 4 more years, so losing him to free agency or trade isn't a concern.
Why not: On the other hand, Legwand is prone to go through massive slumps (remember the Legwand-O-Meter?). He's one of Nashville's quietest players, and isn't often seen giving an encouraging word or interview. David draws the ire of many a fan and even general manager David Poile on occasion when he's not producing up to his capabilities. Perhaps giving the 'C' to one of the team's more egregious under performers isn't such a good idea.
Why: NHL All-Star. All-Olympic team. 2nd in the NHL for goals by a defenseman in 2009, same in 2008. Capable of doling out crushing checks along with that 104 mph slap shot, Shea Weber is truly the complete package. Widely (and accurately) considered Nashville's best player, Weber boasts nearly every quality you'd want in a captain. He's vocal, a good influence through his hard work, solid with the younger players (Cody Franson was housed at Shea's home during Thanksgiving), and is probably Nashville's most well known player outside of the city.
Why not: I'll let you know when I think of something.
Seriously, though, his contractual status is the only thing that would keep me from slapping that letter on him for now and all time. This will be the final year of a deal that already pays him $4.5 million, and as one of the league's five best young defensemen already and rising, that number is only going to go up. I'm assuming that the Predators will keep their franchise player, but adding 'captain' to his resume is only gonna push that salary higher.
Why: Ryan Suter is nothing if not consistent. Though not the flashy player his defense partner is, Suter is possibly just as talented. He led the Predators in TOI by a defenseman this year, and its no fluke. The American Olympian is equal parts durable and effective for coach Barry Trotz. In addition to assuming some alternate captain's duties for Nashville, he wore the 'A' for the United States in the Olympics.
Why not: I'd probably be just as okay with Suter becoming captain as I would Weber, especially considering their respective contractual situations. It becomes a matter of opinion at that point, and I don't really think of Suter as being at Weber's intensity level 100% of the time.
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Dan Hamhuis would be a perfectly legitimate fifth option, and one John Glennon threw out there, but until he's given another contract (a big if right now), he can't be used.
Conclusion
At the end of the day, my choice would probably be Weber for a combination of reasons. He's Nashville's best player, and combines vocal leadership with an exemplary work ethic thats vaulted him to some elite NHL company.
What do you think, though? Should the Predators even consider a captaincy change? Should they give it to Sullivan, Legwand, Weber, Suter, or someone not mentioned? Sound off in the poll and comments below.
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I just think Suter brings in the whole package every game. Weber often lacks the ‘calming’ influence a captain sometimes needs for a team. Weber sometimes seems easily frustrated and overly excited when things aren’t going well.
Shea is not just really to be on the throne...
Shea Weber is hands down as AllStar future captain- but he is not really yet> Shea’s is just being to deal with all the fame and pressure. He needs 2 more years.
Arnott has the strong intimating presence despite his year.
If Arnott played consistently with 2 elitle wingers he numbers would be stronger- check his stats and his linemates.
I respect Arnott because he doesn’t kiss ass and has always been consistent.
Running a young locker takes a lot of work.
I voted for Suter
His play on the ice is my reasoning. There is no one else I would rather have on the ice in a crucial moment for the Preds. His play is consistently excellent. I don’t know how he interacts with the other players and I know that is a big part of being a captain, being able to rally the troops. But that being said I’m going with Suter. My 2nd vote is for Weber but he occasionally ‘flips his lid’ and lashes out at opponents, subsequently getting called for retaliatory penalties. Plus there is just one year left on his contract and not sure it is good to give it to a guy who might not be here next year. Same thing for Sully.
I say Sully...
Even if it is a one-and-done “C” year for Sully, he IMO is the best man for the job. If leading by example is the main criteria then he wins hands down. His dedication, intensity, drive and work ethic are all qualities that some on the team (yes I’m looking at you Arnie and Leggy) could use a little more of and the young guys can learn a lot from. It also gives the Preds a year to find out what will happen with Weber and Suter’s contracts.
If not Sully then I say Suter…more likely than Weber to stay with the Preds long term, has a quiet and confident demeanor that are definite assets in a leader, and is less volatile than Weber. Weber is our superstar no doubt, but I don’t see him and his shy public persona every being comfortable in the role of captain. He is already the face of the Preds but I can’t ever see him being comfortable as the voice of the Preds.
by TitanPredBearFan on May 15, 2010 5:43 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Your perspective on Weber's contract is odd
making him the captain would seem to be a move toward encouraging him to stay in Nashville. It’s like saying “you can be a key cog on another team or you can be THE man here.” That said, I’m torn between him and Suter.
I don’t think Chris meant that Weber wouldn’t want to stay because of the “C” but more that the Preds will have to pay him more than the already humongous paycheck he’ll require to stay anyway BECAUSE of the “C”. He’s going to be difficult to afford without the “C”, maybe too much with it.
by TitanPredBearFan on May 15, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
This is pretty much exactly what I meant, TPBF. Thanks!
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by Chris Burton on May 15, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
in addition
Weber’s going to be one of the highest paid defensemen in all the land soon. If he’s the captain, and a good one, its only going to mean he’s more expensive.
But who knows, Sam, maybe the c would give him more reason to stick around. Webergate (his new contract) is going to give me lots of heartburn regardless. If we don’t keep him, well…it won’t be pretty.
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by Chris Burton on May 15, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly why Arnott needs to go...
Need some of that money back to spend on keeping our stars for once, at least on D.
If we retain him he'll sign the highest contract in franchise history, regardless
so I think the C can only mean showing love
I'd be happy with either...
Weber or Suter. Weber has a slight edge because of his energy and seems a little more of a leader. But Sully is likely to be gone soon, like is said. If Legwand had a more consistent year, maybe I’d consider him. But, hey, maybe that’s what he needs!
Too bad you can’t have a goalie as captain… :P
I vote for Sully.
Really, for the same reasons mentioned above. great dedication. but would not complain if Weber or Suter were to get it.
Conflicted
Sully has been an outspoken member of the team. He seems to garner his team mates respect. However, I believe he will “retire” next year and assume another type of roll on some team some where. I voted for Suter. I believe that Weber will, more than likely become too expensive for this blue collar team. I would love to keep him, but his value to the team will come in other forms, unfortunately for us. I would like to see someone take over the captaincy for more than one year – consistency would be an asset.
I'm completely torn
between Weber and Suter. I see the arguments to go either way but chose Shea in the poll just because he is “the Beast.” Suter would be a great captain as well as he’s got a calm demeanor and has lots of experience…here’s hoping there’s a change at all so we can all discuss it when it happens!
weber or suter
either seems like a great choice so it comes down to which is the best leader in the dressing room, etc. we dont have acess there so its hard to answer.
Another reason Legwand should be captain: It’s not like he’s going anywhere for the next 4 years.
That’s a horrible reason though, Weber for Captain
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by Kevin Sellathamby on May 16, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions
Well, in a way, yes, but all three other guys are going to go through contract hell at some point during their ‘captaincy’.
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by Chris Burton on May 16, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Suter
I’d just be worried that Weber’s contract might not be signable. I could see the team retaining Suter longer.
Of course, if Weber were interested in taking a “home town discount”, especially if given the C, then that’s a great sign as well.
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has a goalie ever been the captain?
I’m not saying Rinne should be(I voted Weber), but say he was that dominant goalie all the time. Has it ever been done?
The NHL doesn’t allow goalies to be captains. Something about it slowing the game down.
by jerseypredsfan on May 16, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Luongo is the captain in Vancouver
He’s not allowed to wear a “C”, but he’s their man.
It’s a terribly stupid idea that they indulged up there, goalies simply are not leaders on the ice.
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Yeah, Lou being captain is pretty awful. He whines and isn’t the leader type.
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by Chris Burton on May 16, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
nah
That would be Henrik Sedin, followed by Kesler.
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by Chris Burton on May 18, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
The analysis is frontloaded
for Shea Weber’s candidacy, with his likely contract demands the only obvious stumbling block. It might be helpful to recall that his last contract negotiation did not provoke overweaning venality on his part or his agent’s. The Predators rewarded him handsomely but not excessively. Perhaps his extraordinary performance in the Olympics and subsequent “discovery” by the non-Nashville hockey world will change all that, and his agent will open new talks in the financial stratosphere, but that would represent a definite shift in Weber’s established personality and stance. He knows, as well, that outsized individual contracts often leave teams without the complete lineup needed to win at the highest level. The example there is Pittsburgh, where gigantic contract guarantees to players like Sidney Crosby left Ray Shero unable to secure the services of an adequate wing for Crosby’s own line. A more pressing fear is that Weber will conclude, after this season’s playoff fizzle, that the Predators will simply never be financially able to add the necessary talent to progress beyond the opening playoff rounds if the team gets that far. He then would seek a team with a legitimate chance to win the Stanley Cup which is, after all, the ultimate goal of every player in the NHL (except possibly for robber barons like Marian Hossa). Even now, Vancouver fans are venting their desire to send Ryan Kesler packing off to Nashville in exchange for Weber, the BC-bred answer to their prayers for the Canucks’ woeful defense. (Of course, the stalwart Kesler is one of those blasted Americans, isn’t he?) Under these circumstances, it would make perfect sense to award the captaincy to Weber and allow events next year to play out as they will. All that said, my personal preference for the position is Ryan Suter. His calm, authoritative performances both on the ice and as a team representative before the media and public speak capably for the Nashville Predators; I can’t believe his personality and leadership capabilities in the locker room are any different.
by Hockey Hillbilly on May 17, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions

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