Which NHL star would you never, ever want to see as a Nashville Predator?
As we head into mid-summer I thought I'd toss a topic for conversation out here to keep you thinking about the Preds over the weekend. Each Friday afternoon, I'll pose a question that invites you to share your thoughts and react to one another's suggestions.
So today I ask you...
Which one great player in the NHL would you never take on the Nashville Predators for any reason, and why?
I'll toss in my $0.02 after the jump!
Personally, I wouldn't want to see Ilya Kovalchuk as a Nashville Predator. I think the guy's style just goes completely against the grain of team-oriented Nashville hockey, with the way he floats defensively and spends the entire 2:00 of a power play on the ice. Yes, he has genuine goal-scoring ability, but it comes with baggage that I think would undermine the rest of the team.What do you say?
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Todd Bertuzzi, dude just lacks class, he’s a cheap-shotting hypocrite, and I think would destroy a locker room like the Preds’.
I was gonna say Bertuzzi, too
but that would require me to grant him “star” status. The Steve Moore thing still irritates me to no end. I wouldn’t want him either.
good call
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by VivaLosBravos on Jul 16, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Pronger
Cheapshot artist and complete a-hole.
On a much lower level, Kirk Maltby has always been my least favorite player for the same reasons as Pronger, and Maltby whines more than anyone (during the five minutes of ice time he gets). He gives more rabit punches to the backs of unsuspecting players than anyone. OK, rant over.
Kovy...
Your description of Kovy’s defense and power play sounds a lot like Kariya. He seemed to work just fine.
There are very few players that I think just wouldn’t fit. Perhaps someone like Avery, but even then I think it could work. Would he be just like he was on the Stars/Rangers of old: no. But new teams, new coaches, new players – they adjust. That’s the game.
Only players I wouldn’t want on our team are those with albatross contracts that are overpaying poor performance. But then again, we have 2 of those on the team already (Legwand, Erat).
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Kovalchuk != Kariya
I definitely agree with Dirk, but Kovy’s so mediocre in two-way play that I hardly even consider him a star.
Alexandre Burrows
It’s bad enough he shows up in the Stone in a Canucks uniform.
by Hockey Hillbilly on Jul 16, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Jul 16, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Heatley
you beat me to Kovalchuck so i’ll throw Dany Heatley into the fire. Mostly for similar reasons. seems they didn’t learn great teamwork in Atl.
also being in nashville a lot would probably give Heatley some Vietnam like flashbacks.
I'll take...
anyone who can score goals.
I wouldn’t take Jason Arnott (C for NJD) on the Preds for anything in the world.
Sean Avery
This guy represents everything I dislike in Hockey and he is just useless in a team except for being in the box.
I also agree with flyalder for Heatley and everyone for Bertuzzi and one more just for pleasure: Dan Carcillo… For the same reason as Avery and for the Mustache :D
Mike Modano
Crybaby antics and the classless, overhead single-armed stick swing on TooToo … Oh wait, you wanted a star. His is kind of faded, more of a black hole now…
The star I wouldn’t want? Joe Thornton.
The player I despise and loathe beyond all rational reason though is Alex Burrows.
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We have enough playoff problems already. He’s currently the biggest name associated with god-awful playoff performance, I want to avoid that like the plague.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 16, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
AMEN
followed by mike primodano, avery, chelios, maltby.
by predswilrule on Jul 16, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL. Good call.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 16, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd have to say Jody Shelly
How he’s even still in the league is beyond me. I understand that he’s supposedly a good teammate, but the guy is a complete thug. A dinosaur. Can. Not. Stand him.
Chris Chelios
I’ve never liked the guy. Great player, classless person. The last straw for me was when he refused to participate in the hand shake after Anaheim ousted the Wings from the playoffs in 2007. Total jerk.
Either of the Sedin brothers
I cannot stand the Sedin brothers. I am not really sure why, but I dislike them more than I dislike the Red Wings.
Practically.....
Star? Thornton or Heatley. Known for disappearing from the playoffs, though each tears it up during the season.
Practically, if it was any NHLer,
I’d got to say Wade Redden. This former ‘star’ is soft, overpaid, and his powerplay QBing has fallen off the face of the earth (which is what he was known for, 5 years ago). Plus, his contract is probably the worst value for dollar in the league, handicapping any team in the salary cap era.
Of current Preds (just food for thought), I would have to say Jordin Tootoo. He is easily replaceable, and compared to other grinders and pests in the league, I think he is overpaid, doesn’t hit, doesn’t fight any more, takes dumb penalties (which admittedly has improved), and dives, which is a cardinal sin for guys who run around. He seems to have a bad rep with the refs and backs down from challenges moreso than most. As loved as he is, I think a ‘grit’ player who hit more, dropped the gloves at appropriate times, contributed more in other ways(like Travis Moen, who has a little more touch, and kills penalties), would be just as admired.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 17, 2010 11:28 AM EDT reply actions
I thought i was the only one
i have been on the tootoo is overpaid and uneccessary bandwagon a while. i apparently have a better opinion of him than you. i think he is replaceable for cheaper money and definately has a refs target on his back. i disagree on other statements. he still hits, does take some dumb penalties but has reduced them, doesnt fight as much but thats the direction the whole league has moved toward, and i dont see him as a diver. burrows is a diver. my issue is he is over paid considering we get zero offense from him. for a shoestring budget team, we cant do that just cause he is popular.
by predswilrule on Jul 17, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
agree on some points
but I think Toots embellishes, and goes down easy, with the best of them.
He even was Dirk’s nominee for Diver of the year this year. For a penalty that doesn’t get whistled too often, he gets called for it, more so than other grit guys. Smithson and Ward don’t go down, nearly as easy, nearly as often. You mention Burrows, but I think Toots is the same kind of guy, a little tougher, but without the contributions in other areas.
A few years ago, I initially thought he was one of the best hitters in the game. Over time, though, I think he has become a boderline charge/leave his feet kind of guy, and he rarely even does that any more.
Middle weight fights, in the context of two guys agreeing to go face-to-face, without any real ‘instigator’, are great for the team, the fans, with little risk of going shorthanded. It seems that Toots declines more of these opportunities in favour of situations where he gets the quick drop on somebody (Bootland, Staubitz, etc.). He is brave in certain situations, but not in others. Its hard to get behind a guy like that.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 17, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Trotz
has alot, i believe, to do w/ the fact tootoo turns some fights down. and i agree he is a middle weight. certainly not one of the big boys.
by predswilrule on Jul 17, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
"You mention Burrows, but I think Toots is the same kind of guy..."
That’s it. Most offensive comment of the day. End of discussion.
by Hockey Hillbilly on Jul 17, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
You mention Burrows, but I think Toots is the same kind of guy, a little tougher
No. Just no. Alex Burrows is a reprehensible person. There has never been a Predator (and I hope there never is) as dirty or douchey as Burrows, and Tootoo doesn’t even come close. Does Jordin blur some lines on occasion? Absolutely, but to put him in a class with Burrows is just wrong.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 17, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Take over your Preds Vision goggles
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?page=07playersurvey
Amongst his peers, tootoo has been viewed as dirty. He dives. He charges. (look up Dirks’ nontraditional awards). He suckerpunches, and gets off ‘the Tootoo punch’, before guys are set….and when the same player challenges him later, face to face, he skates away.
Burrows is a reprehensible person? You know the guy? Let’s keep it to what we know, on the ice, lest you lose your credibility.
Burrows has done some fiendish things on the ice, sure. So has tootoo. Ask his peers.
“tootoo doesn’t even come close”. That’s a joke of a statement. Burrows may be worst, but they are the same calibre of shift disturber, with borderline lack of class and respect for the opponent. I would trust NHLers, before some Predblinded fan.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 17, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Your lack of class isn’t even close to the borderline, pal. With all due respect, of course.
by Hockey Hillbilly on Jul 17, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Aberration
Maybe that 2007 poll of NHL players was an aberration. Maybe it was an off year for Tootoo. It was the year of Robidas, after all.
Thing is, the poll was taken during all-star week, before the Robidas sucker punch.
And the ‘aberration’ repeated itself in 2008 as well
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1127945/index.htm
And lack of class? I called his statement a joke. Like you called my statement offensive. On topic, the discussion point was Tootoo and Burrows. Seems like NHL players feel differently than the previous poster, and yourself.
And I would trust NHL players more than ‘hockey hillbillies’.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 17, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The discussion point is absurd
That’s the point. You can “trust” anyone you want. And if you don’t want to listen to Nashville Predators fans, stay away from Bridgestone Arena. We won’t miss you.
by Hockey Hillbilly on Jul 17, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
So...
my point isn’t valid, because it doesn’t agree with yours?
Very open-minded there, champ. I guess you must know more about hockey than the guys who play the game.
And, instead of just blindly drinking the Kool Aid and taking the popular opinion amongst Preds fans, I choose to think for myself.
Try it sometime. Not just in hockey matters, either.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 17, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I choose to think for myself.
not quite when your opinion originates from the views taken in an outdated poll of other people.
pretty sure
I had my opinion on Toots, since he played junior. Read my initial post, slowly and carefully. I later
pointed to those polls as evidence that his peers think he’s dirty.
Where did you get that my opinion came from those polls?
Are you reading these posts in reverse order?
Hint: read from the top, down. And left to right, across the screen
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 17, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
And, instead of just blindly drinking the Kool Aid and taking the popular opinion amongst Preds fans, I choose to think for myself.
I don’t think anyone is blindly drinking any Kool-Aid. Hockey Hillbilly has his thoughts, you have yours.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 17, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I totally agree
with that sentiment.
But to say my sentiment is just plain wrong,
just because most Nashville fans have the tootoo rose-coloured glasses on, when I don’t?
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 17, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Regardless of me being a Nashville fan, I still disagree with your opinion, which is what we’re talking about. Lets stick to the subject at hand (hockey) rather than delving into finger pointing and that sort of thing.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 17, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
2007
2008
Its 2010. People change, sometimes. I don’t believe that a 2007 poll of a small percentage of NHL players can accurately reflect something 3 years later.
And I would trust NHL players more than ‘hockey hillbillies’
You can choose to trust whoever you like, but both these things are opinions, not fact.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 17, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
but to say
wide ranging, absolute statements like
“There has never been a Predator (and I hope there never is) as dirty or douchey as Burrows”
I don’t think those polls fall outside of the context of ‘forever’.
I don’t really think Toots has respect for his opponents, especially his first few years. It would seem to be that the guys who play the game feel the same way. Maybe I am wrong. Maybe my eyes deceive me. But Toots charges/leaps/dives/suckerpunches with the best of them. I don’t think those are ‘respectful’ things to do.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 17, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
So you think Tootoo is in the same class of lowlifes such as Burrows and Ott, then? Then I hope you want him off the team ASAP. I can’t stand those types of players, especially not in Predator blue.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 17, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I said it in my first post,
Its hard to get behind a guy like that.
You cheer for the Preds no matter what,
but as a fan, its hard for me to cheer for him.
I am aware of how he’s played since his days in junior. He’s still the same guy, toned down, sure. But he still charges, embellishes, etc. I think part of the reason I am acutely aware of his shenanigans is because I am actively looking for them.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 17, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
toot’s game evolved greatly last year. he doesn’t “charges/leaps/dives/suckerpunches” nearly as much as when he was younger and thought that was his ticket into the NHL. now the majority of his game comes from changing the chemistry and direction of the game with clean hits. 2yrs ago i would probably agree with you more. But toot’s game has matured leaps and bounds just last year with the setup for it the year before.
I think he has improved
but not ‘evolved’ greatly. I think that is overstating things a bit.
He’s still a plug, looking to run guys through the boards. Sometimes a little late, sometimes a little too overzealous, with skates leaving the ice. And he dives, and embellishes, acts tough when its convenient, but backs down when challenged.
He is certainly my least favorite Pred. Most of the other guys are ‘character’ guys, in my eyes. makes the team easy to pull for.
Not him, not to me.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 17, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
First, lets keep it civil. There’s plenty of opportunity for good discussion without getting worked up.
Apparently, our respective views of Tootoo differ greatly. I see a player who while once wild and reckless, has matured significantly into a more complete player. I won’t argue that he has made some horrible mistakes, I’ve seen them just as you have. The difference that I see in Tootoo and Burrows is that Jordin respects the game and his opponents.
Remember Burrows jumping a foot into the air to nail Dumont, and turtling when Arnott tried to defend JP? How about earlier this year when Smithson boarded him and Burrows faked his injury so the ref would issue a game misconduct? These are just instances against the Predators. We can lob these isolate incidents back and forth at each other all day, but I think that we’re approaching this differently. Alex Burrows goes out of his way to look for trouble. I do not believe that the 2009-10 edition of Jordin Tootoo was guilty of this.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 17, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Try the FanPosts
The one thing I’d add is that if you want to veer the discussion of into a Tootoo/Burrows type comparison, write it up as a FanPost and take it over there. It’s a completely legitimate topic of conversation, and it’ll just get lost in here.
And yes, please keep it civil.
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For Comparison
The most recent ESPN poll. Tootoo doesn’t make the list, but look at both lists. Tell me Tootoo isn’t in the same league as those guys. Burrows, Ott, Avery, Kaleta.
Dirty is dirty. Tootoo is runs around less and has cleaned up a bit (which I acknowledged), but to say there has ’never been a Predator ’ in the same class as Burrows, is a biased joke.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 17, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions
the prompt
the question was what star would you not want on the preds team. it doesn’t ask about muckers and grinders, or players already on the team. Can you please stick to the topic?
NHL stars
True, but the discussion evolved, with certain posters mentioning Chelios, Radulov, Shelley, Burrows, Maltby, etc. They all have their reasons, and are free to discuss. If the ‘star’ topic was hard and fast, most of these posts would be off-topic. People are posting about what they want, even if Chelios et al. aren’t technically stars.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 17, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I fully admit to being biased, but I have two eyes. I simply don’t see Tootoo doing the things that Ott, Avery, and Burrows do.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 17, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I admit my bias as well
I am a Pred fan who is anti-Tootoo. In the far minority, I know.
Look up Toots on youtube. Diving, charging, suckerpunching, everything that Ott et al. do,
he does, too.
He even was accussed of ‘stomping’ on Draper, but to be fair to Toots,
no evidence came about. But if there was one Pred who would do something like that,
in my eyes, he’s it.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 17, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure its entirely fair to cite isolated YouTube incidents. I mean, hey, there’s video of Shea Weber destroying Yannic Seidenberg with an elbow, that was dirty as hell. Is Shea a dirty player? No way.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 17, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
isolated
but to devil’s advocate, those isolated youtube moments are there for both burrows and tootoo. And many more, than for Shea. Why is one worse than the other?
Why was toots called by his peers amongst the dirtiest?
Methinks there is probably mor than just the ‘isolated’ clip.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 17, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm, I’ll go with Ilya. He just doesn’t seem like the Nashville kind of player.
Also he’s a fan of the drama.
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Agreed. Plus we have horrible experience with Russians. First one leaves us at the altar, second one…well, y’know. Got hit.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 17, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Overall my answer is all of them.. I want to be able to beat Nashville :P
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This is true, AKA why you don’t need any more!
(I’m of course being factitious)
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By factitious, do you mean facetious?
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by Chris Burton on Jul 17, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Good luck with that.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 17, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Ovechkin had more than enough of Weber at the Olympics. He may still be in Shea’s hip pocket, actually. That would certainly explain the Caps’ playoff problems…
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by Chris Burton on Jul 17, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
.
I will most likely be there to see it in person.
I hope to see something kinda like this:

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by Ovechwin on Jul 17, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because Mike Richards is totally the same size and strength as Shea Weber… ;)
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by Chris Burton on Jul 17, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
It was really just an excuse to post that gif. It’s so beautiful!
Alls I’m saying is that would be cool with me, though the logistics are a little off.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 18, 2010 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Re; Burrows
You guys really have tunnel vision when it comes to Alex Burrows. He may dive, he may whine a bit, he may be questionable on the ice. But when you call him the scum of the earth, the worst guy in the NHL, dirtiest player, etc, then I know you’re really clueless.
Have you seen any footage of the Luc Bourdon tragedy? Have you seen any interviews with LB’s family, friends, girlfriend, etc?
And when has Alex ever deliberately hit someone to hurt them (Wisniewsky, Cooke, Avery, Chelios, Chara, Ovechkin, Bertuzzi, Pronger (stomping on legs much?) the list goes on.) He may play a little immature, but he’s not a bad person. I have seen hundreds of different players dive to get a call. Who cares. It’s a game, drawing penalties is part of it.
I just wanted to say that you can hate Burrows for some of the crap he does on the ice, but don’t hate him because you think he’s reprehensible as a person. He cares about people. He’s always the first one to help guys that are down on the ice, on either team.
OK, then. I’ll just “hate Burrows for some of the crap he does on the ice.”
by Hockey Hillbilly on Jul 18, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you kidding?
When was the last time Alex ever deliberately hit someone to hurt them? JP Dumont.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lK0GWEVzQw
Don’t even try to defend this hit. It has been dissected 9 ways from Sunday. He left his feet, he lead with a glove to the face. Those who try to say it was momentum that took him off his feet have already been debunked by numerous stills of the hit. He put a dirty hit on Dumont then turtled when Arnott came after him. Not even the Canuck broadcasters could find a way to defend that hit.
D
That was dirty
Predaceous, Burrows has done this type of thing throughout his career.
Can you say Toots hasn’t?
Youtube probably will say differently.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 18, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Tootoo has done the same
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ8-IGmSUKY&feature=related
Steve Downie stretchered somebody with a similar type of hit, and got suspended.
Was this different than the Downie or Burrows hit?
Or is it less worse, because he is wearing a Preds jersey?
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 18, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Respect for opponent
I am not saying that Burrows has more respect for the opponent,
just that Tootoo is in the same guy
These are the type of things that Burrows is known for:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuHxxAN9yJU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDC8rh_1yz4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xod2LkN1wto&feature=fvw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCr_s5qTD-E
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 18, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Why are you bringing up Tootoo to me?
I never mentioned Tootoo. You defended Burrows and I answered.
As for Tootoo, he was a dirty player earlier in his career. Please find something in the last two years that’s dirty. His game has evolved and you have to give him credit for that.
Burrows is the same player.
D
Tunnel Vision
Agreed. Statements like Burrows is a reprehensible person,
or we (Nashville) has never had a player like Burrows,
when we see 22, a guy who dives, embellished, suckerpunches, charges, hits high, hits late,
are outlandish.
I guess there is always hometown bias towards the local agitator, but toots and burrows are cut from the same cloth. Canuckleheads and Predheads may see it differently, with bias towards the respective hometown favorite.
I disagree with the statement that Burrows has never hit someone with the intent to hurt. His antics versus the Blackhawks, or the Dumont hit, high, certainly late, certainly charging, borderline elbow, arguably headhunting, could have been a clean shoulder to chest kind of hit.
These kind of hits, every one probably has done it, but not as much as the ‘agitator’ type of player.
Both Toots and Burrows have shown that they can be hockey players, I’ll even say that Burrows has shown more, with his special teams ability and his goalscoring, but both have both occassionally shown the same type of lack of sportsmanship, class, and respect for the opponent on the ice….of course, that has nothing to do with there qualities as human beings.
Unless you are a hockey hillbilly, in which ‘the good guys’ can do no wrong.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 18, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Give it a rest, partner
Your credibility evaporated a long time ago. You’re just glutting up bandwidth now.
by Hockey Hillbilly on Jul 18, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
credibility
in your world, people who don’t like Tootoo shouldn’t even go the games. Just because most Preds fans love the guy, and that’s the popular opinion.
If that’s your mentality, how credible is your opinion?
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 18, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Enough!
Gang, we don’t need people questioning each other’s “credibility”. People can reasonably disagree about stuff like this.
This isn’t adding anything to the current discussion. If you want a “who’s dirtier” discussion, write up a FanPost and take it there.
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by Dirk Hoag on Jul 18, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
let's end this 22/burrows thing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsjtU5D3XNw
’nuff said.
by robjustice on Jul 18, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Rec’d.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 18, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Roberto Luongo...
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