What kind of hockey player do teams always seem to chase, but turn out to be busts?
Today's conversation piece touches on a theme we've heard often with the Nashville Predators, but it really applies to just about every team in the NHL. Since the Preds always have acres of salary cap space available, speculation abounds as to what kind of player they might acquire if only the budget could be increased. Usually in Nashville, that takes the form of a proven goal-scoring winger, but for other teams it may be a stud goalie, or puck-moving defenseman.
Quite often, however, teams that make that flashy deal often find themselves regretting it shortly thereafter, as reality fails to live up to expectations.
My question today, then, is what kind of hockey players are the ones which usually don't live up to the hype? Follow after the jump as I toss out a few examples, and make your nomination in the comments...
The Sniper
You know the type - the guy who scores a ton of goals in the final year of his contract, hitting the free agent market as a hot commodity. Think Jason Blake in 2007, getting rewarded for his fluke 40-goal season with a 5-year, $20 million contract from Toronto. He's averaged under 20 goals per season since then.
The Champ
Often, a team looking to achieve playoff success brings in a player with a championship pedigree, and if he's got a few game-winning overtime goals to his credit, that only adds to his aura. Case in point? Chris Drury and his 5-year, $35.25 million contract with the New York Rangers, for whom he has yet to tally 60 points in a season.
The Big Cannon
Teams love to build around a physical defenseman with a heavy shot, but on a bad team, even a decent blueliner can look horrible. Also in 2007, Sheldon Souray received a 5-year, $27 million contract from the Edmonton Oilers, and two of the three seasons since then have been absolute stinkers. Toss in his no trade clause, and that contract becomes a real boat anchor.
The Stopper
"Proven" goaltenders have traditionally enjoyed a healthy premium on the free agent market, at least until this summer. Just think of all the high-price goalies who have failed to deliver in recent years - Cristobal Huet (4 years, $22.5 million) in Chicago, Nikolai Khabibulin before him in Chicago (4 years, $27 million from 2005-2009), Khabibulin in Edmonton (4 years, $15 million last summer for an aging goalie with back trouble).
What gets your vote for the most overrated type of player in the NHL? One of the above? How about heavyweight goons, "agitators", or shutdown centers?
And perhaps even more interestingly, who looks to be the big bust from this summer's free agent market?
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Rangers
would be a good starting place to find some bad investment types.
Pre lockout, 9 million or so for the premier defensive center,
bobby holik (????),
post-lockout 6.5 million for a broken down smooth skating defenceman Redden,
and 5 minute a game, 1 goal a year Boogaard for 1.6 million.
The best would be waiting until late to pick up a guy just wanting a job coming off a down year or injury (Gelinas, Bouillon).
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 30, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions
This year’s bust: Gonchar!
At present, the flavor-du-jour in the NHL FA market is the “shutdown” defenseman. I’m thinking specifically of Tallinder, Michalek and Martin. For selfish reasons, I’m hoping all those guys bust. If I had to bet, I put my money on one of them having a decent run, one being a slight disappointment, and one being a real stinker.
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I think he’s going to be a bust, in the sense that the Devils are expecting him to be their 1D since Paul Martin left. A-Train is a good player, but he’s not a number one defenseman.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 30, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree and feel the same way about Keith Ballard in Vancouver.
by J.J. from Kansas on Jul 30, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
You could also toss Dan Hamhuis into that group. They do, as a bunch, seem to be getting some major $$$ this summer.
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It wouldn’t be so bad if the Canucks/Devils/Senators expected these guys to do what they’re capable of – 2nd pair, shut down defending. But they’re signing them with the expectations that they’ll light the world on fire.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 30, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Expectations
I think the expectations for Martin and Gonchar, as offensively gifted defenceman, are totally different than the expectations for Tallinder, Michalek, Volchenkov, and Ballard, who are more of the tough, shutdown defender ilk.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Jul 30, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
not a #1?
volchenkov is an outstanding shuy down guy IMO. not much on points production, but a beast.
by predswilrule on Jul 30, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Kovalchuk?
I mean, there’s no doubt he’s a goal scorer, but his 2-way skills leave something to be desired… How do you get 80+ points and a +/- of 10?
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Although I agree with you in Kovalchuk not being a two-way player, but there are good players, even those known as ‘responsible’ players who end up being a Minus despite great numbers. Brad Richards comes to mind, 91 points, 12. Even players that are spoken about as great defensive players and have Selke nominations to back the claim up, can produce good numbers and be on the wrong side of the +/ ledger. Think Ryan Kesler (75 points, +1).
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^Sorry, don’t know why there was a strikethrough on above post. Read it as is.
"Don't worry about my Cap." - Lou Lamoriello
True
I guess the reason I apply that kind of player to this is that when a team pays big money they usually expect team benefiting results. I would rather have a good 2-way player who puts up 40 points and allows 20 than a good one way player that puts up 80 points but allows 70. Better to win 2-1 than lose 5-6.
You’re right though, there are a lot of examples of players who don’t come away with a good +/-, but are excellent team additions. My inclusion of the +/- was a bit naive, but I still believe Kovalchuk isn’t worth what he gets paid. Then again, I am a Preds fan and by nature a big supporter of good 2-way play.
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I understand, and can see that point. As a Devils fan, very few players have ever existed in Devils (Lamoriello) history that were not capable two-way players. But I do think you need at least the threat of a dynamic offensive force, as long as he’s not a liability defensively.
If Kovalchuk is paid $11.5M, I dont think he is worth it either as a player. But at $6M Cap Hit, he is plenty worth it. From a marketing standpoint and putting butts in the seats, he may very well be worth more than that $11.5M
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Were the Devils (or the Kings) going to pay Kovalchuk a huge sum of money that constituted an overpay, sure. That’s more free agency though it drives up the cost of a lot of players and it only requires two teams bidding hard against each to really drive up the price. Kovalchuk (or another player of similar caliber who hits the open market), although expensive, is a bit of a safer bet since he has consistently scored 40 goals for a number of seasons. That’s much different than a Jason Blake who did it once in a contract year. On Kovalchuk specifically, +/- is heavily influenced by the team. Atlanta has been mediocre defensively for most of his time there. He’s not a great defensive player but he wasn’t a defensive liability for New Jersey in his 30 or so games with the team last year.
'Champion'
I think these players are the most over-hyped, and get paid handsomely because of it. You have the biggest (perhaps in the history of Free Agency) “Intangibles” contract in Chris Drury already mentioned. Guys like John Madden ($2.5M) are indeed Stanley Cup Champions, but arent worth that kind of money. Luckily for Chicago, he was completely surrounded by talent that allowed him to play the game he is best at and not look too far out of place in the NHL. Guys like Colby Armstrong getting $3M in Toronto, or Bergeron getting $5.75 in Boston because they are seen as ‘total’ players, I just dont see it.
I like the premise of this post Moderator, good thought.
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That’s why it’ll be interesting to see what happens with Antti Niemi’s arbitration hearing. He’s a decent goalie who’s just getting started in the NHL, but with a Stanley Cup on his resume, he could cash in big-time.
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Another “champ” contract that just came to mind is Mike Commodore in Columbus. 5 years, $18.75M!
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Bergeron IMO is just too good defensively to get a scoring instead of checking role. He has been a Ppg player in the past but is now behind savard and krejci who can’t play tough minutes.
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by red army line on Jul 31, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
The checking center. Holik’s already been mentioned above. Madden’s deal with Chicago wasn’t as bad but New Jersey plugged Rob Niedermayer in for $1 million and didn’t real seem to miss a beat (compared to the 2 prior seasons with Madden). These guys usually fall under the “champion” category as well as they tend to garner more attention in the playoffs. Matt Cullen following the Canes cup win is a good example of this.
Post is a great topic.
The underlying trend is the one trick pony.
Year1 – Average
Year2 – Average
Year3 – AWESOME!
So people immediately throw money at the person like their next X years are going to be repeats of year 3 completely ignoring the other 2 mediocre years. Lately it seems like ive seen GMs wise up and give out one or two year contracts to those guys to prove they can do it again. The blues have been doing this alot lately, SJ did this with Setoguchi, Nash should probably do this with hornqvist in my honest opinion.
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Just because Jay McClement is the best defensive forward in the NHL doesn't mean he should win the Selke.
That can make sense for both sides. The team gets to see whether that player is the real deal, and if the player does live up to his billing, his next contract will be for even more.
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I think Patric will be able to repeat his performance, as long as he has a Center.
What do you guys think he will be getting in terms of salary?
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Best guess is around $2.5 million per season
I’ve been worried about it approaching $3 million, but the other contracts getting signed this summer don’t seem to indicate that.
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The gritty player
All throughout the league we can name plenty of players who have the necessary intangibles who likes to get dirty, and has a ‘never say die’ attitude. Not only are these immeasurable attributes, but these traits are always desired and over glorified as the missing piece for a team.
Player A doesn’t score many goals, but I rather have him than Player B who plays too delicate.
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