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Second Prize in a Beauty Contest: looking at free agent goalies

Over the years, the Nashville Predators have been blessed with some pretty solid backup goaltenders, such as Chris Mason, Dan Ellis, and even Pekka Rinne for a time. However, the upcoming season sees the roster with no viable option to dress behind Rinne, the clear starting goalie. There's a strong possibility that David Poile is comfortable heading into camp with three rookies vying for the spot, so this may all be for naught. 

The free agent market is not without choices, however, so we'll take a look at who might be available after the jump.

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The Candidates

Jose Theodore

#60 / Goalie / Free Agent

5-11

185

Sep 13, 1976

Why: The most experienced of the crop, Theodore has won the Hart and Vezina Trophies for his work in the crease (while with Montreal). Yes, that's right - he won the league MVP and best goaltender in the same year. Granted, that was over seven years ago - but if what we're looking for is someone who Barry Trotz can trust completely in the event of a Pekka Rinne injury, then Theo's the best bet. He's coming off a stint with the Washington Capitals, where he received the majority of the starts in front of young goalies Semyon Varlamov and Michal Neuvirth. Theodore posted solid numbers in a 30 win season. I'd show you, but the SB Nation statistical widgets remain out of order.

Why not: With all the experience and awards comes a certain attitude. The reigning Masterton Trophy winner, Theodore is in no way a bad presence - but he is going to come to a team feeling like he could and perhaps should be the starting goalie. It remains to be seen how much bearing his experience and previous job will have on his next contract, but the Predators would have to keep it in mind operating on a limited budget.

Wade Dubielewicz

#31 / Goalie / Free Agent

5-10

185

Jan 30, 1979

Why: He'd be cheap. That's about the only thing I can think of. This is not someone I trust. Oh, and one other reason: he's not Vesa Toskala.

Why not: In digging through the archives of SBN's Minnesota Wild blog, I found their season ending grades for 'Dubie'. Consider: 

Dubie was brought in to be a veteran backup in case of injury, unfortunately when called upon, he failed miserably. In fact, in pre-game warmups, it often appeared that the Wild were shooting on an open net. He was so bad, in fact, that even when Todd Richards wanted to give either Backstrom or Harding a rest when they were nursing injuries, he couldn't risk putting Dubie on the ice. Sure, it's a ridiculously small sample, but that 85.3% save percentage is the stuff of ECHL misery. Needless to say, Dubie won't be back.    

Antti Niemi

#31 / Goalie / Free Agent

6-2

210

Aug 29, 1983

Why: He's young, has a Stanley Cup ring, and would undoubtedly get along well with fellow Finn Pekka Rinne. While Niemi didn't steal many games in the playoffs, he was just good enough to get by, which very often is all thats needed.

Why not: The same things that might make Niemi a good fit also make him the wrong player for the need. His youth, ring, and arbitration award mean that his next deal will likely be between $2-3 million. After backstopping the Blackhawks to a Cup, he deserves a shot at a starting job - which he wouldn't get behind Rinne, who is clearly the better goalie.

Manny Legace

#34 / Goalie / Free Agent

5-10

200

Feb 04, 1973

Why: Legace is a proven NHL player coming off a good season backing up Cam Ward in Carolina and occasionally taking over starter's duties. He saw action in 28 games, and posted a .907 save percentage and 2.81 GAA. At only $500,000 last year, David Poile could easily work Legace under the budget with no problems. From Canes Country's exit analysis:

Beating out Michael Leighton to get the back-up position when Ward returned a month later, Legace went on to be a reliable presence when Ward was again sidelined with back problems in February. The veteran's play was in fact a key to the impressive run of wins by the Canes as they attempted a comeback in the second half of the season. He put together a remarkable stretch of five consecutive wins defined by a 1.59 GAA, .941 save percentage, and Carolina's first and only shutout of the season.    

Why not: At Legace's age, durability comes into question. If Rinne were to go down, can he handle the night in, night out workload? And if he stayed healthy, would he stay consistent? While Manny is a known commodity, his advancement in years brings perhaps more questions than answers. 

The Verdict

While I don't doubt that Jose Theodore or Manny Legace could help the Predators in the short term, the risks and cons seem to outweigh the rewards and pros. At this point, I'm semi-firmly in the camp that the Predators should take their three young goalies (Mark Dekanich, Chet Pickard, and Anders Lindback) into training camp to see if one can prove his worth at an NHL level. If that proves foolhardy, then by all means, invite a veteran to camp. Till then, wait and see. What do you think? Should Nashville roll the dice with the rookies, or find a more suitable solution outside the organization?

Poll
Who should the Predators go with to back up Pekka Rinne in 2010-11?
Jose Theodore
61 votes
Wade Dubielewicz
6 votes
Antti Niemi
50 votes
Manny Legace
30 votes
One of Dekanich, Pickard, or Lindback
163 votes

310 votes | Poll has closed

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Digging up the other Manny isn’t an option?

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 17, 2010 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m pretty sure that afterlife contracts are binding, I’ll check, though…

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by Chris Burton on Aug 17, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously though, if Jose can be had for reasonable dollars, I think he’d be the best fit. Just lie and tell him that #1 goalie is undecided going into every year of his contract and everything will work out just fine!

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 17, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you. If he’s still around when training camp starts, then I’d like for him to get an invite. I’d just rather see if a rookie can handle it, and if he can’t, Theo’s price will have dropped for us.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 17, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manny F.

yeah whatever happened to Manny Fernandez? I remember him being pretty good. Is he in the KHL now or something because he didn’t play last year?

by preds4ever on Aug 17, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jose. He’ll push Rinne harder. No clue what kind of money he wants though.

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by Ovechwin on Aug 17, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Bringing in a veteran backup goalie...

would be an uncharacteristic move for the Preds. I can’t remember Poile ever doing that (unless you count Ellis or Leighton), so I’m guessing we will go with the rookies.

by Lil cutie on Aug 17, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Considering Ellis had what, 1 game of NHL experience before coming to Nashville, I don’t think I’d count him as a vet.

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by Dirk Hoag on Aug 17, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and one other reason: he’s not Vesa Toskala.

That applies for all goalies here, right?

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 17, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Exactly!

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by Chris Burton on Aug 17, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey all… sorry to go off topic. We’re having a discussion over on nucksmisconduct about what big names will likely be available as free agents next year. One name that came up was Weber. I said there’s no way in hell Nashville lets him go, and that he will re-sign. Others argued that you guys with your self-imposed cap and many solid D prospects might be willing to let him part, particularly in some sort of sign-and-trade type deal. I can’t believe you’d let him go. From an honest perspective, not what you’d hope would happen, how plausible of a prospect do you think it is that Weber isn’t a Predator after 2010/11?

by Beantown Canuck on Aug 17, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ll venture over to NM to offer my thoughts, and Dirk, Seth, and Anthony may feel differently about this, but: no way. He’s a lifetime Predator. That’s the short version. The prospects of him leaving are slim and none, and slim just walked out the door.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 17, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I would have been rightly shocked if the answer had been anything different. How anyone who runs a hockey team could even think of voluntarily letting a player like that go would just baffle me. Such a hockey team would deserve to fail.

by Beantown Canuck on Aug 17, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll second Chris’s remarks. The chairman of the team has said that they are projecting their team budget into the future based around Weber’s expectataions, and that he’s not going anywhere.

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by Dirk Hoag on Aug 17, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

And actually, when Poile was put on the spot during the Skate of the Union and said that he expected Shea to be a Pred for years to come (or something along those lines), Shea nodded the whole time.

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by Patten on Aug 18, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cigarran already said they know what Weber is asking for. Poile said they’ll start negotiating with him starting at training camp. Weber said he didn’t think it would be a problem for either side getting the new contract done. Doesn’t sound like he’s going anywhere anytime soon.

by Predaceous on Aug 17, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

What? No Weekes?

But the Weekes For Backup campaign is sweeping through Pred Nation. What an egregious omission. ;-)

by Predaceous on Aug 17, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I refuse to even mention that in a legitimate fashion :).

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by Chris Burton on Aug 17, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed 100%. Too many guys who actually played a game last season on the market to consider first…

Only 60 jobs available in the NHL and about 58 of them are already taken…I honestly think Poile shouldn’t be concerned right now about goaltending. Let’s see how much Hornqvist and Franson (both still unsigned RFA’s) cost first, then maybe there is room left over in the budget for a veteran backup or depth at another position…

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by Seth Lake on Aug 17, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not only that, but as mentioned in the article above the longer we wait and consider our rookies, the lower the price gets on the UFAs.

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by Poiju on Aug 17, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No idea on the answer to your question.

However, to your other point, there will come a time in training camp where if the rookies have done nothing to prove themselves…then the leverage shifts back to the goalies left on the market…

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by Seth Lake on Aug 17, 2010 9:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I am going to go ahead and say it...

…I would love to see Theodore suit up for the Preds (provided we could get him at a reasonable cost).

For the love of all that is holy, look at his stats for 09-10:

30-7-7
2.81 GAA
.911 SV%

Um, 30-7-7. That really is just stunning. I am a huge Peks fan, but I agree with Ovechwin in an earlier comment that having a veteran goalie as a backup would maybe push Peks a little harder to become the future Veniza winner that we all know he is.

My only hesitation is that Nashville has done an amazing job with the goaltender position in that it seems that when a starting goalie fades, we always seem to have an all-star waiting in the wings. It would seem that Mitch Korn has something of a preternatural ability when it comes to goaltenders. That said, I’m glad that I’m not charged with the unenviable task of deciding to sign some veteran goaltender talent or to trust Korn and our always potent crop of rookie netminders.

by rusherman on Aug 17, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

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