Tuesday's news: Get your game on
by Dirk Hoag on Sep 7, 2010 7:49 AM EDT
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PrintRested up after a three-day weekend, are we? Good, because training camp is less than two weeks away, so it's time to start ramping things up around here so we're all ready to go when the Predators hit the ice.
Don't forget, today marks the debut of EA Sports' NHL 11 (for XBox 360
This morning, then, get caught up on your news as we check in on some of Nashville's junior hockey prospects, hear about Shea Weber beginning to assert himself as the Preds' new captain, and Dan Ellis stirs up reaction once again with some ill-chosen tweets...
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Dan Ellis managed to stick his foot in his mouth again on Twitter (complaining about money), and the response from around the hockey community was hilarious.
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So Dan Ellis isn’t allowed to be concerned with losing 18% of his budgeted income because he makes a lot? A lot of people took what he was saying as some sort of complaint that he has it worse than the average American, which he didn’t. Twitter got this one wrong and overreacted.
by J.J. from Kansas on Sep 7, 2010 8:48 AM EDT reply actions
I think when he goes from tweets about going for a couples massage with his wife, or his new luxury car that’s all tricked out, to complaining about money problems a few weeks later, it’s understandably hard for a lot of people to feel sympathy with that.
I think his bigger problem is just setting things in context and communicating more clearly. The whole thing started as a retweet of Reggie Bush talking about negotiations between NFL players and owners, but Ellis came off sounding like a rich whiner.
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Why is it hard to feel sympathy? It’s not difficult to agree with the concept that an 18% pay cut is stressful.
What people lack is empathy because they have no clue how Dan Ellis feels. To everybody who says that they would love to have his money problems, I say that you absolutely would. You would also like to be able to share that they are problems without being told to shut the hell up about it because you’re just being a whiner who should quietly accept an unfair system just because that system leaves enough in your pocket to buy a luxury car. It’s not like the money being taken from him is going into a welfare pot for lower-income families. The rich aren’t being robbed to pay the poor here. The people who keep this extra money are the ultra-rich owners. They’re being robbed to pay the richer and hockey fans are supposed to buy that the players are the ones with the problem.
by J.J. from Kansas on Sep 7, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
A) Last week, he caused a controversy by saying that he deserved his millions more than other people because he was a specialist…going as far to claim that Paris Hilton was a specialist, too.
B) No one forced him to sign with the Lightning.
C) Has purchased a brand new BMW in the past year and a brand new Jaguar in the past WEEK.
D) Response to his followers, instead of an apology for being misunderstood was, “I’m not holding a gun to your head.”
E) BLATANTLY admitted that he was trolling.
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A) Not many can do his job the way he can do his job – hockey as an entertainment business brings him his market value. In a frustrating way, he’s right about Paris Hilton. I don’t pay attention to her nor do I follow anything she does, but it’s obviously important because she gets paid big dollars just to show up at nightclubs. I don’t like her, but I also don’t begrudge her the money she gets nearly as much as I begrudge the retards responsible for her earning it.
B) What does signing with the Lightning have to do with the pay rollback he’s talking about? He was talking about the 24% rollback in NHL salaries after the lockout (Reggie Bush mentioned 18% in talking about football’s negotiations). His complaint isn’t about a pay cut having to do with signing in Tampa Bay.
C) Two excellent cars that keep their value exceptionally well. I’d say those are both smarth ways to invest his money.
D) Why should Ellis have to apologize because his followers missed the point. Going back to your point B, nobody forces them to follow him on Twitter. If you don’t like what he says, feel free to not read.
E) I think the desire to stir something up comment and the Reggie Bush reaction are two separate issues, but I’ll concede this point. I still don’t think it makes his opinion less valid.
by J.J. from Kansas on Sep 7, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Okay, I admit that I misunderstood the pay thing, but the fact of the matter is that Ellis is hopelessly lost when it comes to the internet. Yes, he should have to apologize to his followers or…in this case…not make those tweets at all. He’s complaining about not having enough money. Guess where that money comes from? The people he is complaining to.
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The crappy thing here is that when the Lightning raise ticket prices, they’ll be able to say “it’s because Dan Ellis complains that he doesn’t make enough” and there will actually be hockey fans that buy that, despite the players’ share being a hard-set percentage of revenues.
by J.J. from Kansas on Sep 7, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is why you don’t make those comments. It was a point he possibly COULD have made eloquently (players on 2-way contracts make less money, a hockey player’s career is 1/3 the length of an average career with virtually no transferrable skills), but instead, he made it tactlessly and made it about himself and kinda screwed the pooch.
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Bullsh*t. He’s got as much of a right to his opinions as anyone else. Don’t want to read it? Nobody’s twisting your arm and making you follow him. You don’t have some sort of God-given right to have someone adjust their Twitter feed to your tastes.
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An 18% pay cut from $1.5 million? Yeah, poor Dan. That’s what I have a problem with – he’s acting like he’s the only person on earth with financial problems when in reality he has it better than 99% of Americans today. I understand that the escrow system ’isn’t fair’, but him whining about it is completely unnecessary.
by Chris Burton on Sep 7, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Is he really acting like he’s the only person on Earth with financial problems? I didn’t read that into any of his statements.
by J.J. from Kansas on Sep 7, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
That was hyperbolic on my part for the sake of a point, but for him to say that he’s under more financial stress now than in college is a little hard to take from a millionaire.
Look, I’m not saying he may not have problems – we all do, but he could stand for some perspective.
by Chris Burton on Sep 7, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
In fairness, I make a lot more now than I did in college, but am under significantly more financial stress.
I guess my issue is that almost everything on Twitter is completely unnecessary and Ellis, who by all means acts like a pretty regular guy on there gets treated to an unfair standard. But, on the other hand, if it bothers you, then you have an opinion just as valid as his.
by J.J. from Kansas on Sep 7, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
But you’re probably not a millionaire.
I liked Dan on a personal level quite a bit before he displayed this side of him, so its not like I have a vendetta. I’d disapprove of anyone under his circumstances making the same comments.
by Chris Burton on Sep 7, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, I’m fairly certain J.J.‘s salary isn’t dependent on whether or not I and several thousand others choose to watch him at work.
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Man, talk about performance anxiety… I hate when people look over my shoulder at my computer.
by J.J. from Kansas on Sep 7, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry I can’t be there today, had to sell my tickets to some fans of the guy that sits in the office next to you.
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He cheats on his spreadsheets and steals from the office fridge. There’s no way I’m shaking his hand at the end of this project.
by J.J. from Kansas on Sep 7, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Dan can be concerned about his income all he wants but he’s got to be aware of his audience before he complains about problems that 99% of us would love to have. Escrow is certainly a legitimate big deal for NHLers but claiming that he’s “stressed about money” isn’t going to garner much sympathy among fans. If he doesn’t want to get jumped on by people on twitter he needs to offer a more nuanced statement or keep the conversation on the golf course.
A Definition of Trolling from Urbandictionary.com
Trolling is trying to get a rise out of someone. Forcing them to respond to you, either through wise-crackery, posting incorrect information, asking blatantly stupid questions, or other foolishness. However, trolling statements are never true or are ever meant to be construed as such. Nearly all trolled statements are meant to be funny to some people, so it does have some social/entertainment value.
Though he isn’t aware of the terminology is seems, he did inform us that he was going to start trolling later that day. Still, trolling is trolling.
No one forced anyone to respond. How is what he does relevant to you or anyone else. Let him run his mount, it’s better than the so called goaltending he’s done since 2007. When he’s riding the bench or getting his neck burned by the goal light in Tampa, then he’ll shut up.
So I simulated a Preds season in the new NHL 11...
The 5th seeded Preds lost in the second round of the playoffs to LA Kings. Blue Jackets won the President’s Cup. Pekka Rinne won the Vezina. Dan Hamuis made the all star team and finished the season with like 81 points, 17 goals and 64 assists. Philadelphia won the cup. Preds had 6 guys with 20 or more goals.
Blue Jackets won the President’s Cup?
Um… OK…
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