Kings 4, Predators 3: A Not-So-Special Night
Tonight's game in Los Angeles was a pretty unusual one, as the pace was constantly broken up by penalties and special teams work (7 penalties were called on each team), yet only two of the goals scored tonight were on the power play.
NHL Boxscore - Event Summary - Game Summary
While the Predators gamely fought back after falling behind 2-0 in the first period, and made the game close again after the Kings took a 4-2 lead in the second, it was a matter of "too little, too late" as the final comeback fizzled in the waning seconds. The Predators typically like to roll the lines and play 5-on-5, but this contest was pretty much the opposite of that, forcing Barry Trotz to leverage his specialists even more than usual.
Follow after the jump for highlights, thoughts, and the advanced even-strength stats...
- That 1st period was just a tangled mess, wasn't it? Between all the whistles, and goals, and turnovers, it was like an entire game in itself. Sure, they got down 2-0, but kept their heads about them and worked hard to take advantage of loose pucks created in the L.A. zone on both the Halischuk and Smith goals.
- As to that hit by Dustin Brown on David Legwand... I don't know that we'll see any action from the league on this, as it looked shoulder-to-shoulder. It's just that it seemed to catch Leggy by surprise, hence the violent collision. Obviously, we'll all be monitoring the news tomorrow morning.
- Craig Smith did a pretty fine job stepping into Legwand's spot between Patric Hornqvist and Colin Wilson. He won 50% of his faceoffs, drove play up-ice at even-strength, and scored that power play goal as well.
- I hate to say I told ya so, but ... "The danger zone here is the Kings' 5-on-5 play, where their 28th-ranked shooting percentage is likely to rebound over the coming months, so the risk is that they've just been riding a cold-streak overall as a team". Despite all the PP's, 3 of L.A.'s 4 goals came at even strength.
- Oh, and this? "Dustin Brown is known as a decent Top 6 winger and team captain, but he's shown the remarkable ability over the long haul to create power play opportunities for the Kings by drawing penalty calls". That PP goal for the Kings came thanks to a penalty Brown drew on Jerred Smithson in the first.
- While Patric Hornqvist's kept his team-record tying goal-scoring streak alive, he took 3 penalties, too, which really hurt the Preds' cause.
- Anders Lindback wasn't bad, wasn't great in his first start of the season, it was good to see him get some work.
- All in all, this was a little frustrating, but given all the key players missing tonight, it was hardly unexpected. The NHL schedule shows no mercy, however, as the Preds head into Anaheim tomorrow night.
| Even Strength | Individual Totals | Team Totals While Player Is On Ice | ||||||||||
| Player | Pos | EV TOI | Shots | Shts Blkd | Missed Shts | Blocks | SOG For | SOG Ag | SOG +/- | Tot SF | Tot SA | Corsi |
| Mike Fisher | C | 14:32 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 8 | 9 | -1 | 14 | 13 | +1 |
| Martin Erat | R | 14:08 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 10 | 10 | 0 | 14 | 14 | 0 |
| Jordin Tootoo | R | 13:47 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 11 | -7 | 11 | 14 | -3 |
| Craig Smith | C | 13:32 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 8 | 4 | +4 | 16 | 11 | +5 |
| Patric Hornqvist | R | 12:37 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 10 | 5 | +5 | 15 | 9 | +6 |
| Colin Wilson | C | 12:06 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 9 | 6 | +3 | 19 | 10 | +9 |
| Matt Halischuk | R | 11:27 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 6 | +1 | 13 | 10 | +3 |
| Blake Geoffrion | C | 8:53 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 6 | -5 | 7 | 13 | -6 |
| Niclas Bergfors | R | 8:36 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 6 | -5 | 4 | 12 | -8 |
| Jerred Smithson | R | 8:06 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 8 | -5 | 4 | 9 | -5 |
| Brian Mcgrattan | R | 3:42 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 5 | -3 |
| David Legwand | C | 0:55 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | -1 | 0 | 1 | -1 |
| Ryan Suter | D | 18:49 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 14 | 11 | +3 | 22 | 18 | +4 |
| Shea Weber | D | 17:31 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 12 | 11 | +1 | 19 | 16 | +3 |
| Francis Bouillon | D | 13:16 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 6 | -4 | 9 | 13 | -4 |
| Jonathon Blum | D | 12:42 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 8 | -3 | 13 | 16 | -3 |
| Jack Hillen | D | 10:47 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 6 | -2 | 9 | 7 | +2 |
| Teemu Laakso | D | 10:05 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 8 | -5 | 8 | 12 | -4 |
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Preds got 9 out of the last possible 10pts in the past 5 games, they were due to lose one in regulation sooner or later. Kings are a good team who were coming off a loss the previous night, so you knew it would be a tough game.
Defense keeps you in games........offense wins them!
by Grizzledbear on Nov 9, 2011 2:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions
what are you and what have you done with Grizzledbear?
R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY PEKKA!!!
that’s “who are you”…..I need a second cup of coffee.
R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
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Once again, you and others of like mind have confused objectivity for negativity. ;p
Defense keeps you in games........offense wins them!
by Grizzledbear on Nov 9, 2011 11:25 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Please. You are a grumpy bear and you know it. :P
R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
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Bears are fuzzy and adorable…….you, on the other hand, are (refrains from using such harsh language). :p
Defense keeps you in games........offense wins them!
by Grizzledbear on Nov 9, 2011 5:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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Defense keeps you in games........offense wins them!
by Grizzledbear on Nov 9, 2011 5:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
D needed help
weber and suter both with over 30 minutes on ice. hope klein is good to go tonight.
Laakso looked awful....AGAIN.
And this forces the coaching staff to put both he and Hillen on the bench. That then forces them to overuse Suter and Weber. I don’t care who you are, over 30 minutes is too much for any player. You can really see it on the PP, where both Suter and Weber look lathargic.
I know they are trying to nurse Laakso along, as this appears to be his last chance, but enough is enough.
when there is a game the next night, it makes 30+ min even worse to use guys like this. blum and cube didn’t look well together. we probably should look for a trade (for SOB) or a callup for the 3rd D pairing.
Hillen can handle more ice time....
He averaged 20 mins a night and almost 3 mins per night on the PK for the Islanders, and had good stats to go with that. Get him a decent partner and that 3rd pairing could easily handle 15-18 mins per night.
Lindback
It was good for him to get some work in this game. I think he coulda had a couple of those, but overall not bad for a 2nd year starter. What’s happened to lil’ Boom Boom this season? Seems like he was really good last year. Small sample size make him look better, or is he kinda buried on a line that’s not a good match for him?
TN Sports fan in Hoosier Country....
Lindy had his moments, though. He really has done a lot of work developing his glove and he’s better at tracking the puck. But, folks, that’s the difference between a guy who’s very good and a guy who’s Pekka Rinne.
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Which is why I call him very good rather than average, which is what an .907 SV% and a GAA of 3.04 are.
He showed some flashes of why he has this job and Jeremy Smith doesn’t. But he was rusty and showed nerves, too. He played much better in relief of Rinne in the Vancouver game.
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If leggy can’t play then we need tits on the ice.
Tonite will be trotzs game……he will need to keep our 3rd pairing away from the getslaf line.
My hockey team is better than your hockey team
We need Klein back and Blum on that third pairing....
Then we would be better.
And to add......
We fell behind the sharks and came back…..now we fall behind again. This is a trend which must end. Too mentally and physically draining to always play from behind. The positive is we seem to have the ability to bounce back, but if we continue to give up 3+ goals a game, it will not be pretty.
How is the health of josi? May be time to give him an opportunity.
My hockey team is better than your hockey team
and for that matter
what happened to all that talk about Ellis being an injury away from coming in? I feel like I heard about 5 times that Ellis was ready to be called up if there was an injury. Well, Klein is hurt. Where is that talk now?
Suter, He's a home boy, and we be kickin' it all the time.
by Preds of State on Nov 9, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
Trotz needs to make Colin Wilson skate around the ice for an entire practice
WITH HIS STICK ON THE ICE!!! He could have tied it up in those final seconds. He had the backdoor feed and all he had to do was just tap it in, but it goes right under his stick. That is day one stuff, folks! He had basically an empty net!
Suter, He's a home boy, and we be kickin' it all the time.
I thought the puck was bouncing on him…..the opportunity was there. Who made the pass?
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It was bouncing a bit, but he basically swats at it in mid air. The pass came from Horny and went through a King’s player’s legs.
Suter, He's a home boy, and we be kickin' it all the time.
by Preds of State on Nov 9, 2011 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
I thought so at first, then I went to check the replay above at the very end. Now I’m not sure. It was bouncing, but it looks like if his stick was already down, the bounce might have hit it right there. Don’t remember who passed it from the far corner, but it was just someone trying to throw it toward the net.
stat question
Does EV TOI include time in the penalty box? For instance, does Mcgrattan’s 3:42 include his 2 minutes in the penalty box?
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McGratten was worthless last night and a waste of TOI
And that stupid boarding penalty late was in the 3rd was a killer. One thing not mentoned also is that 2 of the Kings 5 on 5 goals were when our guys were just getting out of the penalty box. Although technically those were not PP goals for the Kings you might as well say they were 3 of 6 on the PP.
Gotta agree with you there, TSC. I’m still not sure what McGrattan’s value is. Doesn’t seem to be protecting any players out there since they keep getting banged up.
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Dirk...on FB you mentioned...
…that Legwand is already ruled out for tonight.
Any word on SK74 or gasp Klein?
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I'll admit I fell asleep before the 3rd period, but
we’re playing 11 forwards, down by 2, in desperate need of a spark and McGrattan plays 3:42? Somebody please tell me again why he’s on the team.
by Melissa Vanderpool Wallace on Nov 9, 2011 9:35 AM EST reply actions
Same question has crossed my mind. Has anyone done a “Moneyball” type analysis on how important a full time enforcer really is to hockey team? I personally hear circus music in my head every time McGrattan hits the ice.
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I’d recommend searching around on mc79hockey.com, Tyler has shown how these guys rarely skate when the outcome of a game is in doubt, and they only tend to play against other 4th-liners, so the notion that they can protect your stars is, well, misguided.
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Yeah, it seems that when they do fight, they just fight the other team’s enforcer anyway. It’s like a sideshow act. I have no problem when real skaters get in a scuffle because tempers fly – that’s just the sign of a heated game, but this “enforcer” role seems useless anymore.
Thanks for the link, Dirk! I’ll definitely check it out.
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I just found this one, too.
http://www.puckpodcast.com/robertsons-rant-why-goons-dont-matter-anymore/
It uses the dreaded small sample, but his evidence suggests that not only do these guys allow a high number of goals against, they don’t deter injuries. It’s at least suggestive enough to point to an area where more in-depth analysis might be enlightening.
Another argument I want data for is whether the goon/enforcer prevents your stars (or productive players) from “having to” take penalties that put you on the PK.
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Maybe McGrattan can take a run at Perry tonight...
We still owe him for that spear on Toots.
And hey, it’s likely McG would get a game misconduct.
EVERYBODY WINS!
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I think Bergfors looked a bit better out there.
still looks a bit lost out there, but had a few SOGs
Did not see the game
but during the highlights on the kings 4th goal, Bergfors failed to get the puck deep. Trotz won’t be happy with that.
So did everyone else at some point in the night, it seemed.
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