Friday's notes: Chris Pronger's season is over in Philadelphia
by Dirk Hoag on Dec 16, 2011 10:53 AM EST
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PrintIn what has become the overarching story of the 2011-2012 NHL season, concussions continue to affect key players on various teams. In Philadelphia, they're shutting down Chris Pronger for the duration of the season, and the same may hold true for Tampa Bay's Mattias Ohlund. Meanwhile, New York Islanders forward Brian Rolston is the latest to join the long list of concussed stars.
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Motown
Reading their game recap reminds me why I like to cheer for anyone playing the Wings.
TN Sports fan in Hoosier Country....
by Evanbio on Dec 16, 2011 12:03 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Agree, as well.
They’re arrogant pricks. I don’t hate the Red Wings themselves nearly as much as I hate their fans. If any city deserves to lose their team, it’s Detroit.
You know the guy who wrote that doesn’t live in Detroit, right?
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 16, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks!
To all 3 of you, actually. I enjoy reading constructive criticism of my writing.
However, I’m a bit perplexed about what was so “arrogant” and “needless” about my recap. Was it the talking about the goals? The praising of Pavel Datsyuk for making a play that one would not normally see? The talking about a Wing player who looked good out there and who is generally a lightning rod for Wing fans?
Or was it the fact that I didn’t genuflect at the feet of those plucky litle Predators who just never seem to quit and deserve to have an entire recap written by a Wing fan for Wing fans be all about how they are the little team that could?
Seriously, I’m all ears.
Sorry
Some of us Pred fans tend to carry a pretty big chip…hazard of being a fan of a small market, small payroll -awww, ain’t they cute how they try so hard-team that is rarely if ever taken seriously. I also don’t see a problem with the article…its geared toward wing fans as its target audience…mission accomplished as far as I can tell. We are just used to Dirk’s sometimes TOO even handed slant (Haha Dirk) on this sight so it might skew our viewpoint of other blogs. Sorry bout that….carry on.
by TitanPredBearFan on Dec 16, 2011 4:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks
I sincerely have no problems with people being upset at what I write (since most of the time it’s not flattering to the opponent), but last night’s recap seemed to be relatively respectful of the Predators, or at least that was my intention. I also have very thick skin, but was genuinely perplexed why anyone thought it was “arrogant”. If they thought that was arrogant, they would have HATED what I wrote had the Wings won.
I don’t understand what it’s like to cheer for a non-traditional market team like the Predators, but I do know that they probably don’t get the coverage they deserve, and some people will equate media coverage with respect. At the same time, being a fan of a team like the Wings means that when they lose and I don’t give what some people feel is enough praise for their team, then I am seen as arrogant and entitled.
Good article...
Pretty factual. Good description of what happened on the ice. A great recap of the Weber/Datsyuk duel, as I was as surprised as anyone when Dats put Weber on his butt.
Bottom line is the Wings continue to be one of the elite clubs in the league and the fans of those teams who beat them (occaisonally) want instant respect. The Preds fans are no different.
Instead, Preds fans should look at the Wings organization as a successful model that not only puts championship teams on the ice every few years, but brings a level of play to the NHL year after year that virtually no other team does. There is a fine line between resentment and respect. Well, from this fan’s perspective, the Wings have my utmost respect and…..I’m damned glad we beat them last night after being outshot 40-21, which really pissed off their fans!
Maybe the insistence that Weber’s going to be a future Red Wing got under our skin? Maybe your insistence that Howard should be an All-Star and a Vezina finalist and we should all be kissing his feet already? It just smacked of that classic Red Wing arrogance that assumes every player secretly wants to be a Red Wing and treats Nashville like we’re your farm team.
Believe it or not, you’re not the center of the hockey world and we’re not your farm team, so stop acting like you’re entitled to our players.
we’re not your farm team, so stop acting like you’re entitled to our players.
Quick question; how many (by sheer number) of comments and/or posts have been on this very site in the last three months which have discussed the future of the Predators’ defense and whether it would include both Weber and Suter?
How many Preds fans don’t think they’ll both be in Nashville come next season? Yeah, I thought so…
But a Wings blog isn’t allowed to salivate at the thought because you’re touchy? Yeah, how dare we think our goalie is good either! What a joke.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 16, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, get over yourself. That wasn’t “salivating,” that was being a dick. And sure you’re allowed to think Jimmy Howard is good. We all think our goalies are good, until we think they’re colanders. But Vezina finalist? Really?
Regardless, my assessment of Red Wings’ fans is based on a lot more than a single blog-post. And right now, you and the Motown Blogger are just confirming that assessment.
Jimmy isn’t in the conversation for the Vezina? You’re crazy. While we’re all talking about goaltenders and their paces, he’s on one to set the record for wins in a season. That whole ‘mediocre goalie behind a good team’ thing doesn’t fit the save percentage he’s putting up – that pesky little thing that people who like to shit on Wings goalies always draw up. Also, just completely ignore the part about how so many people (Preds fans included) think one of your big D-men won’t be on the team next year, because a rival blogger bringing it up is “being a dick.”
While we’re talking about who needs to get over whom, remember that you’re over here complaining about an article you don’t like over there.
At least your profile is honest though.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 16, 2011 7:00 PM EST up reply actions
Both of you give it up
Two minutes each for pointless bickering.
And J.J., we try to keep the language “prime time TV” here.
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Confirmation Bias
I’ve got one comment, then I’m leaving this alone: you’ve got Preds fans above here saying it was a pretty fair recap of the game, yet you seem to have this opinion of Wing fans that isn’t going to change. That’s cool.
However, what if a Wing fan said “if there’s any city that deserves to lose their team, it’s Nashville”? You’d be very upset, as you should be. Whatever you think of Wing fans, wishing for a city to lose their hockey team is pretty low, especially considering that some people wouldn’t mind seeing the Predators move at some point to a more “traditional” market (and I’m not one of them, FWIW).
Come on, man. Everyone is salivating over Weber and Suter. You must not read any other NHL blog on SBN… I mean who WOULDN’T want them?? Also, other teams are pushing for their goalies to Vezina finalists. It’s fine to hate Detroit, but be smart about it.
Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-
Not sure what the complaint is either...
I thought it was an extremely fair and well written analysis.
Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-
Pronger: Really sorry to see the possible end to a great defenseman's career....
However, I suppose there will be some who may find the irony in this happening to a guy who has been considered one of the dirtiest players in the NHL.
Pronger
I think the Preds could command a kings ransom from Philadelphia for Suter or Weber. Would be interesting to see what we could get- Giroux, JVR, Matt Read… As long as part of the deal is Crispy’s name in the rafters.
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Pronger
probably deserves to have his career ended by a concussion. With as many flying elbows, blindside crosschecks, and slew foots this cat has dished out over his career, karma is a real b*. I have no sympathy for the dirtiest player in hockey.
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by Shawn Kehoe on Dec 16, 2011 1:09 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Although I hate to hear of anyone having a career-ending head injury, honestly my first thought was ain’t karma a b*tch.
by TitanPredBearFan on Dec 16, 2011 5:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ken Dryden
The guy is a really good writer, but he is reeeeally long winded. I like the review of padding size thats underway- thats the only thing I can think of that will lower the number of head injuries without a major change. However, bigger pads are meant to protect the rest of the body, meaning the number of injuries not involving the head will probably go up. The bottom line is people are bigger and stronger and are going to get more and more injuries. I wonder if a switch to olympic size ice would have a positive impact? If I were going to make a major change I’d start there. You can keep the rules the same and it may be a more exciting skill game
What we need are Olympic rules when it comes to contact with the head. Any contact with the head of an opponent is 2mins in the box.
Regarding less padding in players equipment, I think you might well see players not be as gung ho about ramming an opponent into the glass if they know it might hurt them as much as the guy they’re hitting. That’s definately something they should address.
Defense keeps you in games........offense wins them!
by Grizzledbear on Dec 17, 2011 3:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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