Ryan Ellis solid in NHL debut (and more from around the locker room in Nashville's loss)
What a day for Ryan Ellis.
After taking the morning skate for the Milwaukee Admirals in preparation for their game against the Rockford Ice Hogs, Ellis was called into the team's office and was informed that he would instead be in Nashville playing against the Detroit Red Wings
When it was deemed that Shea Weber would be out of the lineup with an unspecified upper-body injury, Barry Trotz needed a sixth defenseman. He called Admirals head coach Ian Herbers and simply said, "send me your best guy."
Ellis was that guy.
"I was overjoyed; I was pretty happy," Ellis said after the game about making his NHL debut. "I think anyone coming up to play their first game is pretty excited, and I was obviously a bit nervous; I'm out there playing the Red Wings and it's a pretty good club over there. I was just excited."
But before Ellis could take the ice, he had to go over the gameplan with the coaches.
"I got here about 6:00 - 5:45 or 6:00. It was a lot different. Usually I'm taking a nap and I'm here at the rink for a 7:00 game at 4:15," Ellis said. "I had a little meeting just to go over what Detroit does and how they play, what their systems are. It was really just, you have to get caught up quick and then just read and react."
Overall, Ellis had a fairly solid game for a 20-year-old making his NHL debut. He played alongside Jack Hillen at even strength and saw powerplay time early with Sergei Kostitsyn and, later in the game, Ryan Suter.
"He played good. Just kept it simple," Suter said about Ellis' game. "When you're young, you try to do too much. But you just have to keep it simple. He did a good job."
And keeping it simple seemed to be the theme of the night for Ellis.
"I just wanted to come in and play a simple game," Ellis said. "Move the puck and try not to make too many mistakes. The guys made it very easy for me to fit in and I'm very thankful for that."
"I thought he played pretty well. He made some good outlet passes on the powerplay. He was trying to be a little too cute early, then he started shooting it," Trotz said. "He's a smart player."
Ellis finished the night with three shots on goal, two blocked shots on defense, and logged 18:13 of time on ice on the night.
But where Ellis really shined was on the powerplay. The young defenseman played 5:31 on the powerplay - second among Nashville defenseman.
And he even impressed the opposing coaches. Detroit head coach Mike Babcock was singing Ellis' praises after the game, despite the Nashville loss.
"The kid they brought up is as good as there is in hockey on the power play, so he's no slouch," Babcock said. "He's very deceptive, he really sees, he has ice water in his veins. He's going to be a dominant power play guy in the National Hockey League."
Around the locker room
Here's what a few other Predators had to say about tonight's loss:
- Ellis on playing Detroit: "I was probably a little nervous. That's a pretty good team out there with a lot of superstars. I think you see them in warmups, you're a little shell-shocked. It was a lot of fun, the guys made it really easy on me. They talked me through a lot of plays in different situations. It made my game a lot easier."
- Suter on the second goal call: "The ref said no goal right away and pointed for a face-off in our zone. Usually that's the call on the ice. Then all of a sudden they change their mind and say they think they saw it went in."
- "I saw the ref say no goal and point for a face-off and then I see them huddling up."
- "It's unfortunate, because that was a turning point in the game. Unless you see total video evidence, that's the whole point of the video review: to make sure goals were good or not good. They said it was inconclusive on the video and the ref says no goal, that usually means no goal."
- "Either way, we have to come out and have a better next shift. You have to get the momentum back."
- Suter on Weber's absence: "He logs a lot of ice. He's one of our best defensemen and takes a lot of ice. Guys stepped up tonight, I thought everyone played well."
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Congrats Ryan Ellis!!
I really hope we’ll continue to see more of him. He has serious talent, and what better place to open it up than in Nashville?!
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Ekholm’s got his work cut out for him making this team next year, with the way Ellis played tonight, and if he keeps that up.
He’s got the size we need though, he really should’ve went to Milwaukee. I think the SEL clause ends after this season though.
"We want to keep beating them...to break their pride and break their season...is a huge thing for us." - David Legwand
Nice Effort
Ellis gave it a good shot for the late notice. Didn’t like the call on the wrap around but we can’t fall apart in the next shift.
I think when the time comes
Keep Ellis and send Blum back down
by Preds of State on Dec 27, 2011 12:28 AM EST reply actions
Blum definitely could use about a month in Milwaukee. Geoffrion too, but only if we get another forward (hint hint).
"We want to keep beating them...to break their pride and break their season...is a huge thing for us." - David Legwand
I was kinds scared/excited when we didn’t know why Weber was out. Twitter saws talking about trades and I was hoping we were finally getting that goal scorer for Christmas we’ve been asking for all these years. I’d miss Weber, but something has to be done about the offense.
by Preds of State on Dec 27, 2011 1:48 AM EST up reply actions
Have to wait?
Do the Preds have to wait to Jan 1 to trade him as well?
That is actually a really good question.
by Preds of State on Dec 27, 2011 11:19 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
No
Since he’s on a one-year contract, he can’t sign an extension until January 1. He could be traded anytime (outside of the holiday roster freeze, of course, which ends tonight at midnight).
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I can appreciate Suter’s point of view regarding the disputed goal, but we lost because we didn’t score a goal until the game was almost over. (And yes, Ryan, Weber is one of our better Dmen, LOL!). Understatement of the season. :D
Was busy watching Team USA for much of the time the Preds game was happening (USA hockey is my #1 hockey love), so I didn’t get to see as much of Ellis as others here did, but we did go 0 for 5 on the PP. Needless to say, we miss Weber when he’s not in the lineup.
Defense keeps you in games........offense wins them!
by Grizzledbear on Dec 27, 2011 2:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Well, you'll like this because it fits your "Predators'-problematic-offense" position!
Defense didn’t really look bad tonight, even without Weber. You can tell when a defensive break-down leads to goals because they’re scored from close range and the dmen aren’t covering their guys; 3/4 of Detroit’s goals were from far out. Here’s my opinion on who deserves to sit in time-out, because I think we played well tonight and therefore am quite annoyed that our good play didn’t get us the win. Harrumph!
The first goal (26ft): David Legwand turns the puck over in the neutral zone, and then doesn’t hurry back to cover his open man (Flip). He watches while Flip gets the puck and scores. Leggy’s possible reaction? “Uuuh… I, uuuuuh, ya know, didn’t uuuh, mean to lose him… uuuuh…. right? Yah. Uuuuh. Sorry guys. (Uh.)” At fault? Forward – David Legwand // Charges? Turnover and lack of hustle.
The second goal (4ft): This was the “inconclusive” goal scored on the wrap-around. Ryan Suter doesn’t get to the post quickly enough to prevent Datsyuk from taking the shot, but Pekka Rinne also doesn’t have his pad solidly against the post. In my opinion, Suter’s presence at the post (thus preventing Datsyuk’s shot) isn’t really relevant – a shot like that shouldn’t go in at all, and Suter would have been there to clear any rebounds and “remove” Pavel. At fault? Goalie – Pekka Rinne // Charges? Pad wasn’t totally covering the post.
The third goal (20ft): Josi keeps his man to the outside as he circles behind the net (well done). Willy watches as Cleary not only wanders into, but also around the slot. Alone. It could be argued that Spals should help cover this guy, but he’s busy fending off the front of the net, so it’s cool – he’s being productive. Also, Willy’s at center. This guy’s in… the center of the ice!! Willy kinda stands around and watches him for a bit, then realizes he is NOT being productive. Cleary scores. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the man who thought there were reindeer named Jupiter and Saturn. At fault? Forward – Colin Wilson // Charges? Watching a hockey game and not hustling to cover his man.
The fourth goal (24ft): FYI, There’s a lot going on in this play. First, someone takes a shot from the point; Blum and Hustle go to protect the net from nearby Wings while Cube covers the empty side of the net (Rinne slips to the far side). At this point, they are the only three Preds in the zone. Boomer and Smitty are on their way, but are both watching more than hustling (anyone noticing a THEME here??). A large rebound from the shot goes to the point-man (Flip), who is all alone and about to slam it back into the empty net. Boomer realizes that he’s supposed to cover Flip, dives for the puck, and fails. At fault? Forward – Blake Geoffrion // Charges? Lack of hustle to cover his man.
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So a few things for you here Caroline. Thing 1) HOLY SHITE that was in depth but you managed to break them down so well they really should give you an analyst job and instead of “Crispy’s Breakdown” be “Caroline’s Court of YOU Screwed Up.” Thing 2) Being at work and missing the whole game (cept for Blummers goal on the radio at the end) this made me feel like I was watching the play happen. The way you were able to tell me where they were and what they were (or were not as the case may be) doing at the time was amazing.
Thank you!
Wow, thanks so much!!
I’m glad you enjoyed it!
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A bit of extended detail
Goal 1: Martin Erat makes a bad pass to Legwand after trying to carry the puck all the way up the boards with Zetterberg hounding him and Ian White pinching. Still on the forwards, as you say though.
Goal 2: I don’t think you can just blanket clear Suter for not being on the far post like he should have, especially with the shot attempt. This was also a follow-up play to a shot that Bertuzzi got from directly in front of the net because Suter turned to face the wrong man on a pass high in the zone from Bertuzzi to Franzen. This left Bertuzzi alone for a fantastic scoring chance that he missed wide. Going farther back in the play to where it begins, Josi joins a rush up ice with Legwand carrying (in what is either a 4-on-2 or a 4-on-3 depending on whether you want to treat Franzen’s positioning behind Josi as close enough to make a defensive play on him). Instead of using their numerical advantage, Legwand decides to try and dangle the puck through both Nicklas LIdstrom and Ian White. This leads to a turnover which leads to the goal.
Goal 3: Ryan Ellis turns this puck over in the zone for Drew Miller to come in and sweep around the net. Ellis had a chance to try to push Miller into the boards, but tries a couple of weak stick-checks. Still, It’s on Colin Wilson for giving Miller an open man to pass it to. It’s just worth nothing that this play came as a result of a bad decision by Ellis in his own zone.
Goal 4: Nothing to add, this description is perfect.
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 27, 2011 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
This is a really fantastic addition - thank you!
I wrote that at like… I don’t even know… 2:15 this morning? So I definitely missed some of the more detailed stuff. Thanks so much for adding onto my first post with some of the other, little things I overlooked!
Goal 1: Missed the Marty pass… I was doing this pretty late, so whoops. Either way, though, like you reiterated, it was the forwards who turned it over.
Goal 2: (This was probably the second hardest to write up, next to the fourth goal – and I had to watch THAT replay about 20 times to get everything that was going on.) Anyway. I did notice that Josi joined the rush, and I thought about saying something, but he did backcheck hard and got back in time to cover his man, so I was okay with it. I guess, in my opinion, while the turn-over was an issue (again Leggy…. sigh), it was only part one of this goal, and I was more focused on specifically what happened immediately prior to the shot that caused the goal. So the turn-over was a problem that LED to the goal, but it didn’t CAUSE the goal – do you see what I mean? I was just focused on a different segment of the entire play. And yea…. I mean, I do think Suter should have been there to stop him from even wrapping it around in the first place. That IS part of his job. However, I do fault Rinne for not having his pad firmly against the post, like I said. I think when you strip it down to the absolute core (as in what is the very final, ultimate thing that, in any way, allowed the goal to happen), it comes down to Rinne’s pad placement. I probably should have half-blamed Suter though. Tisk tisk.
Goal 3: Wow…. that TOTALLY is Ryan Ellis, and not Roman Josi. I’m gonna blame how late it was when I wrote this. And yeah, he should have pressured him more. It’s funny, when I was writing that last night, I was thinking, “Wasn’t there a goal that I thought was partly Ryan Ellis’ fault??” (It’s his very first NHL game – I’d be shocked if there WASN’T a goal that was partly his fault.) I couldn’t figure out what happened to it! I guess that would be because I thought it was Josi.
Goal 4: Thank you!
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All I can say is
that it’s really great to have an opposing fan that seems to have the same kind of fun in breaking down those tiny little details which lead to the really big events. Thanks for the discussion today!
by J.J. from Kansas on Dec 27, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
No problem!
As much as it pains me to do so sometimes, I do enjoy picking apart the goals against to see what happened and who screwed up. (Not that having that knowledge really lets me DO anything, but it makes me feel like I have some control over my team, so hey.) It’s always good to have someone else share their perspective too, cause there are definitely things that you miss when you’re so focused on whatever you initially decided to look for. Thanks to you, too!
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So from what I have been caught up on is that Weber has the dreaded “Upper Body Injury” i was hoping he just caught Klein’s cold thing. Glad to see that Ellis played welled though. Blum to me has been playing better since this last call up and while he still has some way to go as far as growth goes I still think he is better then Hillen right now. As far as ranking the Young and the Defenseless here is where I put the guys 1a Weber 1b Suter 3Cube 4 Klein 4 Josi 5 Hillen 6 Blum.
I am leaving Ellis out right now until i see him play and then I will slot him in some where on here. Suts and Webs are a and b because together they seem to be even better then the sum of each of them apart. Josi has really developed and thrived after his call up I think this is what the coaches had been talking about before he ran into Ellis and got KO’d in training camp. Josi (if he keeps this play up) will be a 2nd pair guy in no time and could be a 1st pair guy should something happen.
Also i heard that we are looking to get some scoreboard pointer back on the team. Not sure if its true or not but hopefully we wont have to give up a whole lot for him…
Where’d you hear the SOB thing from?! Anywhere significant, or just the rumor mill?
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Crispy said it in last nights broadcast.....
If I remember correctly, Crispy said DP made a comment that he was going to make some moves to shore up our D before the trading freeze. Crispy said all the talk in the locker room was that the players are thinking SOB is coming back which had them exicted.
With our total lack of depth on D and PK% dropping like a lead balloon, I for one would love to see SOB back. We could’ve resigned him for the same price as the Av’s got him. Other than his stupid penalties at times, he was great on the ice AND the locker room. If Weber is out, or not, we could use him. It would be a shame if we have to give up some prospects and/or draft picks to get him back when we could have just resigned him last summer.
SOB coming back? Sign me up!
Positives:
-Great with the team.
-Great with the media.
-Defends Pekka and Horny against pests and other shenanigans.
-Great 3rd pair/PK specialist.
Negatives:
-Can take bad penalties at inopportune times.
JUST KEEP HIM HERE THIS TIME.
"We want to keep beating them...to break their pride and break their season...is a huge thing for us." - David Legwand
by DonBorvio on Dec 27, 2011 7:00 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Agree on SOB
I loved his antics and he was NEVER afraid to throw down the gloves to defend our guys and go tough in the corners for pucks. I was just waking up from a nap when I heard Crispy quote what DP and the locker room were saying and I whipped my head around and couldn’t believe it. I hope I heard it right and I’m surprised no one else here has mentioned the rumor mill coming from none other than Crispy. We could definately use his toughness and D-man experiance and he is GREAT on the PK which is killing us now.
Honestly I heard it from my mom…who is not a big fan of the team but she keeps up with them some. She said she has seen that they are looking at going after “more veteran d guys to help shore up the D” I didnt think to ask her where he had seen/heard it but with her not following the team like we do for her to tell me that means that she saw it somewhere legit like a newspaper or website for a newspaper. I’ll ask her tomorrow when I see her.
Oh please, let it be true that we are getting SOB back!!! I will bow to the hockey gods every day if it is!
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Considering that the Avs are now just one point in back of us for 8th place in the conference, why would they want to help us out? I’m thinking they don’t want to help us out any.
Defense keeps you in games........offense wins them!
by Grizzledbear on Dec 27, 2011 11:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
‘Cause it’s never about helping out the other team, but getting back what you think will help your team.
How much would we give up to get SOB back? Would be hard to imagine giving up a good prospect or even a decent roster player for him, which it would seem the Avs would want in return for him.
Defense keeps you in games........offense wins them!
by Grizzledbear on Dec 28, 2011 2:37 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
High praise from Coach Babcock for Ellis
“as there is in hockey on the power play”
That’s quite a statement about a guy in his first NHL game.
SOB
If we bring back SOB, then maybe Trotz won’t play McGratten anymore!!!
I don’t care who it is as long as he can score and defend. Poile has seen now that the grasshoppers are not getting the job done and time is running out if they hope to score enough pts. to get to the playoffs. Something has to be done and quick.
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