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Alexander Sulzer Should Start Over Bouillon

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Conventional wisdom holds that the Predators are a good defensive team. And if you consider defense the sum of a team's goaltending, penalty-killing, and shot-prevention--i.e. its Goals Allowed ranking--the Preds seem great. As a defensive unit, however, excluding the Finnish last-line-of-defense, Nashville is exactly average--tied for 15th in Shots Allowed/Game. Many fans resist the idea that a team's defense can be expressed as simply as its Shots Allowed, but in the span of a season, shot quality largely evens out. Good chances may win the night, but in the aggregate, shot volume distinguishes the great defenses from the rest. The Predators' defense is simply not that good.

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Defense isn't making Pekka Rinne historically good. After all, Rinne is not a very high maintenance goal tender. He rarely surrenders rebounds and sees the puck extremely well, even through heavy traffic. The difference between the old Peks and the one who is single-handedly propelling the Predators to the playoffs lies between the ears, not the pipes. Rinne has always had the physical tools to save any shot, but not the composure. Really, the only lacking aspect of his game now is moving the puck out the defensive zone. But therein lies the problem.

The Predators' defense features the absolute best top line in hockey. The third pairing of Cody Franson and Shane O'Brien are a capable, underrated offensive weapon, when reserved for the right match-ups. In between, there should be a shut-down pairing, but there isn't. Behind Weber and Suter is a collection of varied, but lacking third-pairing defenders. Each excels in certain, very specific respects, but lacks the overall game, a la Dan Hamhuis, to perform the basic task of the shutdown defender: change possession and move the puck up ice. 

Kevin Klein blocks shots, cuts off angles, and is increasingly better one-on-one--all of which make him a good penalty-killer. He's a panicked passer, though, and loves to defer the responsibility of skating the puck up ice to his partner. Francis Bouillon endeared himself to the team with his grit, hard-hitting, and leadership qualities, but he simply can't match-up physically with top competition. The combination of the two players leads to prolonged shifts running around the defensive zone, not making the obviously horrible turnovers of the Hamhuis-Klein pairing, but allowing arguably more harmful shooting galleries for the other team. 

Fans looked to Klein and Bouillon's good plus/minus ratings early in the year and evidence for some incredible chemistry, but it was a pretty easily explainable sample-size fluke, caused by extremely high shooting% when they were on the ice. 

The even-strength shooting stats pretty clearly reflect their weaknesses:

Player Corsi QualComp Ozone%
Suter 5.98 0.900 45.0%
Weber 3.41 0.915 45.6%
Sulzer 0.66 0.899 58.4%
Franson 5.42 -0.301 51.5%
Klein -7.67 1.082 43.8%
O'Brien -2.21 -0.071 47.1%
Bouillon -7.71 0.460 42.6%

 

The stats, left to right, are Corsi number (the average shot +/- when the player is on the ice, expressed per 60 minutes), the average Corsi number of that player's competition, and the percentage of the faceoffs that player takes in the offensive, as opposed to defensive, zone. 

Suter and Weber put up great Corsi ratings, while facing top competition, on a team that is routinely out-shot. Few players can do all that, but that's why they're otherworldly superstars. Franson actually has the second best Corsi rating behind Suter, but that's due to Trotz using him against weak competition and on offensive face-offs. He's an offensive defenseman and he's used like one. 

Kevin Klein takes the toughest match-ups on the team, but his results are accordingly mediocre. Bouillon faces moderately tough competition, but with equally unimpressive numbers. Whereas Klein is more underrated for his massive responsibility, Bouillon seems more over-matched. 

Surprisingly, it's Alexander Sulzer that comes closest to matching the production of Weber-Suter. While Trotz has definitely babied him, getting him in on so many offensive-zone face-offs, he's produced as Klein's partner on the shutdown-line in Bouillon's absence. In fact after the Red Wings game, Sulzer actually leads the team in QualComp.*

Many fans perceive support for Sulzer as a him vs. Klein issue, but wanting Sulzer to start is wanting what's best for Klein. Whereas Klein was consistently in the red with Bouillon, through Tuesday, he +.022 Corsi with Sulzer. Alex comes out even better from the partnership at +3.43. 

*All stats were compiled before Klein and Sulzer got slaughtered, shooting-wise, by the Red Wings. Still, Klein comes out noticeably better than before (-4 vs. -7 corsi). And more importantly, Sulzer is still significantly better than Bouillon on the season (+0.8 relCorsi vs. -11.2 for Bouillon). Besides, it really wasn't their fault; the checking line was getting tooled.

Sulzer and Klein succeed as a partnership, simply because Sulzer can skate and puck-handle. He's not especially physical, but he can track down defenders, dislodge the puck, and actually get it up ice. It's easy to underrate him because he doesn't profile as either an "offensive" or "defensive" defenseman. But neither did Dan Hamhuis. The crux of his game is getting the puck from zone to zone better most, which serves both purposes.

Can he hit harder than Bouillon? No. Is he as tough on the boards as O’Brien? No. Does he shoot as well as Franson? No. But the sum of the parts—the skating, shooting, discipline and technique—make him better than the players Trotz plays over him.

Two related arguments exist for Bouillon over Sulzer. First, Sulzer's numbers are inflated for the time he spent filling in on the third line, during Suter's injury and O'Brien's suspension. By now, however, Sulzer has played most of his time with Klein on the second line, adding to his TOI with PK and PP usage:

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The second, related argument is that Sulzer's been babied. And to an extent, that's true and does partly explain his numbers. Suter, Weber and Klein have taken on a tiny bit more responsibility each, in order to ease Sulzer into the shut-down role. That, however, is only an argument explaining why his numbers are so much better than Bouillon's. It doesn't refute that the current defense paradigm, with Sulzer in place of Bouillon, produces better results. 

If the Predators biggest defensive failing is the failure of the shutdown-line, why not spread around the shut-down responsibility? The fact that Franson-Sulzer works better as a power-play and offensive-zone unit than Franson-O'Brien is anything but a reason to bench Sulzer. 

Benching Sulzer now would be like taking a pitcher out of the starting rotation, after he went 5-0, to re-insert a guy with an 8.00 ERA. Until Sulzer has a string of poor games like the last, against Detroit, he's second-line. They compliment too well--finally a player that will move the puck for Klein, a Suter to his Weber. 

Besides, Francis Bouillon has a concussion, the last injury to rush back. The Predators don't need him right now. Bouillon makes the team tougher, more experienced, and more physical...but not better. Not even close. 

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Sulzer is more offensively minded, and has a bit more moxy and awareness. Boullion is reactive.

I’m liking what I’ve seen from Sulzer thusfar.

LOVE the charts, stats, and such.

Seriously, I could coordinate the super bowl game ops better.

by ExcellenceThroughGuesswork on Feb 11, 2011 1:45 AM EST reply actions  

lies, damn lies and statistics

by Creeping Death on Feb 11, 2011 1:49 AM EST reply actions  

Sulzer is a good guy to call up when we get injured on D. He plays a pretty good game

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by Creeping Death on Feb 11, 2011 1:55 AM EST reply actions  

Plus

we have the Cube next year and we won’t have Sulzer then. So that adds to the don’t rush the Cube back from injury

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by Creeping Death on Feb 11, 2011 2:02 AM EST reply actions  

I think I’m convinced. Sulzer definitely has looked good. Well done, Sam – and welcome aboard. It was about time.

"[Weber] shoots like MacInnis, hits like Stevens." - Jeff Marek

by Chris Burton on Feb 11, 2011 8:09 AM EST reply actions  

SULZER

has impressed me as capable since the cubes injury. nothing flashy or spectacular, but dependable. if/when cube returns i would love trotz having faith in the ability to sit any defenceman that hasnt played well and insert sulzer. keeps him involved and competition is a great motivator. i also wonder if we will make a trade for a cheap vet if the cube isnt even working out by the deadline. the last thing we need is to have to play an admiral down the stretch or in the playoffs.

by predswilrule on Feb 11, 2011 8:17 AM EST reply actions  

I love having this "issue" on defense...

I agree 100% that Peks masks our defensive lapses, but I love that we have quality D that can step in if needed. This reminds me of the Grebeshkov satchel predicament from last year…what happens when/if he (last year) or Cube (this year) get healthy?

by PREDSFan615 on Feb 11, 2011 9:46 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Good Job Sam...

Great Read. And looking forward to reading more from you.

On another note!! Does anyone think there is a chance that FSN TN will pick up Saturday’s game since we have a few big story lines going on? I have messages them on Twitter but no response…any ideas fellow OtF brethren?

"Bartender! Something on ice!" - Neil Everett

by EastTNPredsFan on Feb 11, 2011 10:03 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t think they will (not even sure if they can).

"[Weber] shoots like MacInnis, hits like Stevens." - Jeff Marek

by Chris Burton on Feb 11, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I was told by an NHL Gamecenter rep earlier this season that even if I signed up for the Gamecenter plan that I could not watch the Preds live since I was in the viewing area. When I asked him about the games that were not televised, he advised me that I could not watch those either because FSN TN has it in their contract that they have the option to pick up additional games throughout the year

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by EastTNPredsFan on Feb 11, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Yup...

That’s the really annoying thing about the way broadcast rights are managed these days. My hope is that in the years ahead they get that straightened out.

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by Dirk Hoag on Feb 11, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually...

I think this underscores the need to add a d-man before the deadline. Neither Sulzer or Bouillon are that great. One of the Preds biggest issues in the playoffs last year was defensive zone time / rebound control. We need a second pairing that can clear the net area and get the puck out of the zone. I would’ve almost rather seen them make the Beauchemin trade instead of the Fisher deal, but Fisher will help for sure.

There is a gaping hole in the organization of physical d-men. Shea Weber is pretty much it. Bouillon tries but as it’s stated he’s overmatched much of the time.

by atty123 on Feb 11, 2011 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

I think O’Brien is pretty physical. What the Preds need to do is turn one of the surplus forwards into a 2nd pairing defenseman to go with Klein – Ward, O’Reilly (maybe), Tootoo, Dumont are all expendable, at this point.

"[Weber] shoots like MacInnis, hits like Stevens." - Jeff Marek

by Chris Burton on Feb 11, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough, but I’ve actually been disappointed with SOB’s physicality. He seems to over-rely on his stick-handling.

To me, the bottom line is that their defensive pairings are weaker than last year’s playoff team and that needs to be addressed somehow if they expect to go beyond Rd. 1. There will be no easy match-ups for them no matter what seed they get, assuming they get in.

by atty123 on Feb 11, 2011 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Definitely agree here, don’t seem to want to hit or maybe get hit.

by DonBorvio on Feb 11, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I hadn’t really thought about adding another D-man but the idea has merit. I’m sure Poile would upgrade the team if the right opportunity came along. SOB and Sulzer are UFAs next year so there’s room on next year’s roster. Unless we go for a rental player.

However, at some point, you have to give the young-uns in Milwaukee a chance or trade them.

by Griz-ATL on Feb 11, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

ABSOFREAKINLUTLEY! Do not tell me we need to trade for a freakin D-MAN okay?!

By the way Beauchemin is NOT a defensive scorer and is VERY overrated. His scoring is average at best and this season he is below average.

by preds4ever on Feb 11, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahaha, you guys are funny!

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by Creeping Death on Feb 11, 2011 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

I agree with ETG, they are two different animals, if Sulzer had even a little physicality, I would be all on board. So about the Corsi numbers, they include PP and PK time right? If so, players who have PK>PP time (e.g. penalty killers such as O’Brien and Spaling) will likely always have lower Corsi numbers than PP>PK time players (e.g. Sulzer and Hornqvist). Additionally Sulzer is more of a shooter (I don’t know how many of his shots go on net) than Boullion, so it is also likely this affects the corsi numbers. They have played a different number of games each Boullion (44), Sulzer (26). Even though Sulzer has less games, it seems like he has been featured a lot more on the powerplay lately, and yet Bouillon has 9 assists over Sulzer’s 2. I am just really missing how this says that Sulzer is a “better player” Bouillon. I like seeing the stats, charts, and numbers. I also like the discussion about the defensive paradigm. However, the statement “but not better. Not even close” about Bouillon is really not justified by what you presented…..that is like saying Tootoo is not bringing anything. We all know Bouillon brings energy as well, and maybe it does not affect his line as much as the next line out, who knows. I am not discounting that maybe Sulzer is better than Bouillon, but not by leaps and bounds like you say. That is like if I wrote an article on why Bouillon is better based on the number of hits he has vs Sulzer’s. As the playoffs get closer the games are going to get more physical, and I guess we will see then if Sulzer can handle it.

by Predmonton on Feb 11, 2011 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

Corsi reflects even-strength play only

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by Dirk Hoag on Feb 11, 2011 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

That is like if I wrote an article on why Bouillon is better based on the number of hits he has vs Sulzer’s.

I disagree. The idea here is that shots dramatically correlate with winning, more than any other stat.

by Sam Page on Feb 11, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, well I admit to not completely understanding the Corsi thing. I was more just a little disgruntled about the last sentence, after watching Sulzer’s play lately.
It is funny how many Preds games have seemed to work this year with us scoring more on fewer chances, and not being able to score on the nights when we have a lot of shots. I would be interested to see a stat on the team’s record when Bouillon is playing vs. when Sulzer is playing. We all have our own opinions, but good on you Sam for doing the leg work, or else we wouldn’t have anything to discuss :)

by Predmonton on Feb 11, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

But the Preds give up more shots than they take.

by atty123 on Feb 11, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

and they outshot the crap out of edmonton & got blanked, but i think it was Trotz that said that’s what happens when you play from behind the whole game.

by NikoliVoltron on Feb 11, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I would like to know what % are quality shots (i.e. in an around the crease). You can take little shots from the blueline all day and have nothing go in. If we keep the quality% down, I think that more important than simply outshooting the other team.

by DonBorvio on Feb 11, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

A good deal of work has been done on that front, and quantity outweighs quality by a long ways. The ability of teams to influence the average shot quality against them is pretty small.

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by Dirk Hoag on Feb 11, 2011 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Great analysis Sam

My gut feeling was that Sulzer was pretty solid. These numbers back it up.

by Griz-ATL on Feb 11, 2011 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

I feel smarter!

Although I will say that at home a few days ago your boy Alexander Sulzer was on the ice for 75% of the Edmonton goals. Having said that, our PK numbers don’t lie and he has been a big part of that. As Griz-ATL has stated earlier it would be better to be cautious with Cube because of the awesome fact that we have him locked up for next season. Let’s hope Sulzer can keep up the decent work and maybe (hopefully) up his game for the stretch run.

by preds4ever on Feb 11, 2011 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

positioning and physicality

if he would just work on those 2 things, especially positioning, then he would have my vote. But he does show some good promise. and who knows after maybe a little bit more time adjusting to the speed of the NHL and the common playing styles of the other teams and his positioning will work itself out.

by flyalder on Feb 11, 2011 5:01 PM EST reply actions  

Everybody hold your horses

Please tell me why we have to make a trade and give up an asset for a vet d-man? Who is he going to replace? Sulzer has looked great. Batman and Robin are pretty locked in I think. Franson brings to much "o"ffence as Crispy would say. SOB does a good enough job as the the 5th guy. As much as I would love to see Poile move Klein, it ain’t happening. Cube healthy is the best d-man we got not wearing a cape. (I don’t care what the stats say). Cube is 2nd behind Suter in ability to carry the puck up the ice, something that is essential come playoff time when teams switch from up tempo to more structure wait for the other team to make a mistake mentality.

But more than anything we have a vet d-man in Milwaukee. His name is Aaron Johnson and he has played more games than Klein, Sulzer, or Franson. So don’t trade for a dman. Just bring up Johnson after the deadline when the rosters can exceed 23 and play him if necessary.

by wrandsw on Feb 11, 2011 11:28 PM EST reply actions  

Everybody hold your horses

Please tell me why we have to make a trade and give up an asset for a vet d-man? Who is he going to replace? Sulzer has looked great. Batman and Robin are pretty locked in I think. Franson brings to much "o"ffence as Crispy would say. SOB does a good enough job as the the 5th guy. As much as I would love to see Poile move Klein, it ain’t happening. Cube healthy is the best d-man we got not wearing a cape. (I don’t care what the stats say). Cube is 2nd behind Suter in ability to carry the puck up the ice, something that is essential come playoff time when teams switch from up tempo to more structure wait for the other team to make a mistake mentality.

But more than anything we have a vet d-man in Milwaukee. His name is Aaron Johnson and he has played more games than Klein, Sulzer, or Franson. So don’t trade for a dman. Just bring up Johnson after the deadline when the rosters can exceed 23 and play him if necessary.

by wrandsw on Feb 11, 2011 11:54 PM EST reply actions  

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