Is The Mike Fisher Trade A Long-Term Loss for the Nashville Predators?
In analyzing the Mike-Fisher-to-Nashville trade, many are quick to point out that Fisher is not a rental, as justification for the first-round draft pick price. The Predators will have Fisher under contract for two seasons after this one, through 2013. In his day-of interview on 104.5, David Poile extolled the situation, likening rental deals to "a homerun or a strikeout, and more times than not it seems to be a strikeout," explicitly referencing the Forsberg trade.
Poile's characterization of rentals, though, seemed like an odd reason to be excited to take on a multi-year deal...
Multiple years of team control can certainly add to a player's trade value, but only if the contract is a good deal. If the player underperforms, and the team would theoretically better off filling the position through free agency, the player has virtually no trade value. And any inefficiencies in the payroll, especially for small-market team like the Preds, caps the maximum amount of talent on the roster. In the parlance of Poile's metaphor, the homeruns are bigger, but so are the strikeouts.
While selling teams want to get something for a player they'll soon lose, rentals do have unique appeal to buyers--they reduce risk. If the player underperforms, the team can just let him walk. The bright side of a strikeout is there's a quick chance for turn-around in the next at bat. Besides, there aren't true rentals in the NHL, where a deadline pick-up's rights can be flipped for a player like Sergei Kostitsyn, after the season.
Mike Fisher helps the Predators now. For a team weak up the middle, and desperate to impress their free-agent-to-be captain with a Stanley Cup run, Fisher brings offense, defense, and playoff-style intensity. But is Fisher a good long-term fit for the team financially? Or will he become a useful, but unmovable player, a la David Legwand, with whom he is often compared?
Hockey Prospectus has one answer, and not the one you want to hear:
In Mike Fisher's case, a $4.2 million cap hit would require a GVT of 11.1 to break even. Unfortunately for the Predators, Fisher has averaged only 7.9 GVT over the past three seasons, is past his prime, and on pace for only 2.0 GVT this season. That means that Nashville can expect to lose at least three goals a season for two more seasons based on acquiring Fisher at this contract.
We're not concluding that Fisher won't contribute to Nashville's success; the conclusion is that Fisher is not an efficient asset. For the same cap space, Nashville could either get a much better player, or the same caliber of player but with room left over for another.
GVT, or Goals Versus Threshold, is a stat that attempts to measure a player's value in a given season, in goals. It allows comparisons of players across positions and, in turn, estimations of a player's value in dollars. The statistic is not without faults, however. And while Vollman asks the right question, I'm skeptical of the ease with which he answers. Here's a few issues with the GVT analysis and reasons Fisher might be worth the money to Nashville:
1. The salary, not cap hit, counts--Mike Fisher counts against $4.2 million in cap for the Predators, but his salary for the next two years only equals $7 million ($4M in '11-12, $3M in '12-13). For a team that regularly spends up to the salary cap, the cap hit determines a player's value to the team. A player's worth is determined by what else his cap hit could be used towards. For a team constrained by an internal budget, though, the concern is what else the actual money paid could be put towards. Mike Fisher only needs to be worth $3.5 million next year, or 9.2 GVT.
2. GVT is context independent--The Predators brought Mike Fisher in not to be some offensive-savior, first-line center, but another weapon in Barry Trotz's match-up game. Fisher will be used both to take pressure off Legwand and Goc's lines and take advantage of the match-ups created by Smithson's. The Senators used him in a similar two-way capacity. The Hockey Prospectus article mentions him averaging just 7.9 GVT the past three seasons, but the values varied wildly, often in concert with Fisher's ever-changing role. GVT has no way to account for the quality of a player's teammates or competition. I compared Fisher's GVT with the quality of his teammates, as measured on behindthenet:
I see a pattern! Here in Nashville, Fisher will likely be the de facto first-line center, and get the best linemates available, maybe Wilson and Hornqvist.
3. Fisher may be a special allowance--Because of the situation, there's a chance ownership is opening up the budget a little bit to get Fisher, the best center available on the trade market. In a similar vein, it's not surprising the Predators had to give up their first in such a drastic seller's market. Ottawa gave a little preference to Nashville, because of Fisher's wishes, and in a purely open market, they probably could have netted more.
4. He fits the power play--Vollman notes that Fisher doesn't fix the Preds' power play, their biggest deficiency, but his Ottawa numbers don't really assume a unit that's built entirely on getting Shea Weber a shooting lane, with traffic in front of the net. If Fisher will go to the net and stand his ground--and by all accounts he will--he'll get some PP time. It's not the best model for a 5v4 unit, but it is what it is.
5. The future is now--I found this passage from the HP article somewhat grating:
At this very moment, there are probably Sens fans calling their friends and relatives in nearby Toronto, wondering why their own local team is actually swapping bad contracts with the Ducks when they can simply dump them on a team so desperate for short term playoff success that they're willing to give up their long term health.
First, a pick in the 20s in a weak draft is not the long-term health of a franchise with a stocked farm system like Nashville's. Secondly, as alluded to before, priority uno right now is extending Weber. And the only impediment to that might be a playoff miss or another first-round exit.
6. Intangibles--This Predators team has seemed a little soft at times. Fisher is a gritty, natural leader. He elevates his game in the playoffs. Ottawa fans love him for a reason. He's here to re-establish the Predators system and identity.
Conclusion
Ultimately, the Fisher contract looks manageable for the Preds. Fisher was supposedly playing through injury earlier this season (another similarity with Leggy), but if he can stay near 100% for the stretch-run and come back fully healthy next season, he should be a solid second-line guy behind Matthew Lombardi. The Predators could graduate several players next year (Klasen, Josi, Blum, Geoffrion, etc.), who along with Spaling and Halischuk, can provide great value and open up the payroll a little.
If an escape from Ottawa and better linemates can bring Fisher to his '09-10 level of performance, he'll be completely worth the money and more. Last year, GVT pegged him as more valuable than Shea Weber, which tells you about both Fisher's ceiling and GVT's credibility.
There's also something to be said about seeing an opportunity and acting on it. We hope Weber, Suter, and Rinne will be this good and around forever, but you never know--all three's contracts will be up in the coming two seasons. Overpaid or not, Fisher gives them a better shot at winning now. There's no harm focusing on the present, when the present has potential.
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Well written article. I believe, if for no other reason, this trade is for the owners to show their willingness to spend as necessary without breaking the bank as a demonstration to others and the league in general. Mike Fisher becomes a good fit for the rest of the season and next. i hope his on ice achievements also warrant this excitement.
Good article. It will be interesting to see if Fisher broadens the Nashville’s fan demographic seeing as to his ties to the country music industry. He is one of the more respected players up here in western Canada. One of my buddies told me last night that he was buying a Mike Fisher Preds jersey, and he is neither a Sens or Preds fan, just a big fan of Fisher.
I agree with Wendy. As a fan, I like the fact that the owners and DP are trying to get the team deeper in the playoffs. It’s a nice change.
by Dumont'sShorts on Feb 12, 2011 12:40 PM EST reply actions
This website
I really thought this would be a cool place for local fans but it appears that in an effort to show your exceptional knowledge in the Hockey arena I mostly read doom and gloom or second guessing. If your so good maybe you should talk to Paul about his job. Personally i would bet on Fenton and not you. I would love to have read what you said when we got Goc or the cube or Kostitsyan for that matter. Have a nice day:)
what?
Sam has a very positive outlook on the deal:
Overpaid or not, Fisher gives them a better shot at winning now. There’s no harm focusing on the present, when the present has potential.
"[Weber] shoots like MacInnis, hits like Stevens." - Jeff Marek
by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Now now, predsfreak, there is some doom and gloom, but I, and many others try to stay positive even in the face of horrible 4-0 losses to the worst team in the conference.
Even when such a loss is sandwiched between beatdowns of the Wings. Yes, even then.
by Hockey Hillbilly on Feb 12, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
If you have exceptional knowledge...
…why not share it? I mean, you’ll never see me crunch numbers like Sam did in his post, but it’s an overall positive analysis.
Of course we do the doom and gloom thing rather well, too. But so does every other fan site when their teams play poor hockey. It’s human nature to react that way when expectations aren’t met. Spend a few minutes at www.letsgowings.com or www.milehighhockey.com (in fact, a fan there made a specific post to address the negativity). It’s part of being passionate.
You yourself bemoaned our lack of a center in one your comments , so even you’re not immune.
And by the way, thanks. I will have a nice day.
Go Preds.
by rusherman on Feb 12, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Aaaaaaaaand that’s a rec’n.
"[Weber] shoots like MacInnis, hits like Stevens." - Jeff Marek
by Chris Burton on Feb 12, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
rusherman, explain the headline then? which asks if Fisher is a long term loss for the team.
this isn’t a journalism and writing website, its a hockey fan website, to share opinions. if the artcile is so darn positive (honestly) I think its neutral, whats up with the headline. I also sense a “let me roll out the statistical analytics” to too many articles, as if an engineer is building the predators hockey club. if so, the bridge would have “collapsed” long ago as no one things we have the key pieces to do what we do.
btw, applaud your comment 100% that its about being passionate. And we can pull out the stats so many ways so if the article is about the statistics and what they don’t measure, it really should not lead with a negative such as whether Fisher is a long term loss? Sure its a question, but its loaded, starts off with stats the articule itself then questions…. I could be wrong but I think that is what predsfreak is reacting too as those stats are used too frequently for doom gloom second guessing but as this very article shows they don’t prove it up.
Meanwhile, the team keep winning.
by keepellisingoal on Feb 12, 2011 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
This post rebukes an article that claims Mike Fisher is a long-term loss for the Preds so it would not be correct for the question in the title to be phrased in the positive. I suppose he could have asked it in a more neutral way (something like “What are the long-term implications of the Mike Fisher trade?”) but then you’re really starting to split hairs.
Besides, anyone who read the post knows his conclusion is definite “no” to the title question.
don’t worry Predsfreak. As somebody getting a grad degree in stats, they often times are very wrong and misleading things. We will score more goals with Fisher then we will without him. And Cisar is write, you gotta remain positive. I disagree with a lot of the things written, but this is a place where you can express your opinions and debate. So kudos to all of us here at OtF. The only thing that really matters is the one thing 100% of us can agree on…. WE WANT THE CUP!!!
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by Creeping Death on Feb 12, 2011 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
predsfreak is more right than wrong....
I enjoy this website – and enjoyed this article – and will continue to visit and post. but there is an infatuation with these statistical measurements on this website which simply do not measure team cohesion nor often effectiveness. I recall a lot of negativity on Kostitsyn as the season started (now he’s chasing Horny for team lead in goals) because folks were not giving him time to become productive.
Then there are the frequent references to Legwand that do not match his statistics. Nor that Fisher’s numbers the last two seasons are noticeably better than Legwands.
The FIsher trade is a good move by the Preds, who clearly seem to have lost Lombardi for the season and have O’Reilly, who had been hot, out with a broken leg. Fisher can also produce long term for us.
The question may become, if he’s like Legwand (only scores much more often and plays with a ton more passion and isn’t invisible as Legwand so OFTEN is), maybe Legwand gets moved (or bought out).
by keepellisingoal on Feb 12, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
The point with statistical analysis is to try and lend some factual basis and historical perspective to what we’re seeing on an everyday basis. Far too many observers simply stitch together cliches – the team won because they “tried harder”, or so-and-so scored the winning goal “because he’s a winner”, which is 99.999% hogwash. We aim to provide a deeper level of detail as to what’s going on.
Case in point, the victory in Detroit the other day. Trotz called out some names in the paper, so the story goes that the guys really stepped up their game to deliver the win. The real story in Detroit is that Pekka and a lot of blocked shots by the defense saved the day, the Red Wings dominated puck possession but just couldn’t score.
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fair enough...
I’ll have to scan the articles more and simply skip all the statistical hogwash. Numerous posts here point out the limited nature of some of these statistical analysis. So, as Fisher gets ready to take the ice, we have an article on statistics which has a headline that questions whether the Fisher pick up is a good move, an article that provides space to what everyone know says are poor stastics and then debunks it pretty effectively. As I noted, I enjoyed the article but I just wonder if, as FIsher gets ready to take the ice, was this the way to do this? I for one would have simply not commented if I didn’t think predsfreak has a really good point, this is occuring too much.
btw, its interesting that Crispy and Trotz don’t talk this way. Nor Poile. They may use these kinds of analysis in their assessments of players to be sure, but its interesting that they describe things that deal with the context of a game, of what they see a player doing on the ice, of what the team is doing, etc. I guess I just think we’re over intellectualizing a team sport we all love.
by keepellisingoal on Feb 13, 2011 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
apologies if my comment read that way....
however I am not suggesting Sam was negative on Kostitsyn.
I’m agreeing with Predsfreak that this site gets too negative. Kostitsyn was one of those examples – I have no reason to believe Sam that you suggested that. I don’t think I said that however apologies if it sounded as such.
by keepellisingoal on Feb 13, 2011 2:00 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks for noting the deficiencies of the analysis
The most severe drawback of any “context independent” measurement is its presumed virtue, that it exists independent of real world factors that bear on performance and outcome. In any enterprise as dependent on adrenaline level as hockey, statistics like “GVT” seem airless and confined. Let me borrow from Mark Twain, whose autobiography I’ve been sampling: “There are lies, damned lies and statistics.” You have done well to put the matter in the Predators’ immediate context.
by Hockey Hillbilly on Feb 12, 2011 12:53 PM EST reply actions
I had great hopes for Hockey Prospectus when it launched, but you might notice that I hardly ever link to it, and articles like the one Sam takes apart above are the reason why. The biggest problem I had with it was the absurd certainty that Vollman rolls out, basically saying that the only two things you need to know about this deal are Fisher’s salary cap hit (totally inappropriate to a team like Nashville), and his GVT. Any half-serious statistical analyst knows what’s covered by the model he’s using, what isn’t, and how that impacts the applicability of the numbers. Here, however, Vollman pretends to know all.
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Good one, Sam. I don’t always agree with you, but you seem to show all sides of the issue, generally, and I appreciate that kind of balance. I think Fisher will be a good move, and I don’t think that with all of our depth, due to excellent draft management, that giving up the draft picks this year is going to hurt the team.
I also agree with Hockey hillbilly, above.
you gonna be at the game tonight Cisar? I was the one with Shea Weber for President that you were talking with at intermission
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by Creeping Death on Feb 12, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
The answer is NO!
No to the stories title that is. Stats always have to be placed in their correct context in order to draw the proper conclusion from them. Of course it would be great if a more productive player at a lower salary would have been available, but who might that have been? Teams generally don’t part with young goal scorers who have lower salaries. Fisher fills a lot of voids that we had besides just offense, grit being one of them. And if there was a draft year that you might part with your 1st round pick for a player like Fisher, this is the draft year.
by Grizzledbear on Feb 12, 2011 1:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
excellent point!!! +3 on your comment!
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by Creeping Death on Feb 12, 2011 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Why thank you!
Appreciate the kind words.
by Grizzledbear on Feb 12, 2011 2:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The GVT stat
If anything, it sounds like it’s an endorsement of Fisher if he’s been performing consistently above his teammates. Like Sam says, with better linemates on a better team, his GVT will probably increase. Couple that with the fact that his GVT was higher than Weber’s (a player who is widely considered worth what he is paid) last year and all worries about the Hockey Prospectus analysis become kinda silly.
Great article, fun read!
Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics.
He fits, and starting on a different team my help (look at Sergei). Maybe he’s not the “greatest value”, but who else was available? Does that player even want to play for us? Besides better scoring would that player even bring anything else, or is he a defensive liability- which Trotz hates?
It’s a seller’s market right now, and DP did what was needed and maybe a slightly high cost.
Fisher and Legwand
I don’t get why they are compared. Because of the salary? Fisher is cheaper.
Because of the two-way play? Fisher is his better defensively, and the odd year Legwand may have gotten Selke votes, Fisher got more, including once being a finalist.
One of them is physical and hits and sacrifices the body to block shots and will drop the gloves to avenge a teammate and plays with emotion and has been a key cog on successful playoff runs. The other sleepwalks for months at a time.
The only ones that ever compared Fisher to Legwand are (only a fraction of) the Nashville fan base.
There is a reason why Fisher was nearly universally loved by the Ottawa fanbase, despite his relative overpayment for his goals.
And there is an equally good reason why Legwand has as many detractors as he does fans in Nashville.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Feb 12, 2011 2:15 PM EST reply actions
Totally agree
A friend of mine called him Legwand Lite the other day. It seems to be the other way around from what I have seen and read. I never remember Legwand ever dropping the gloves or ever really hitting someone in open ice. I can’t remember Legwand scoring important game winning goals, besides in the shootout. Besides being a two player, I don’t really see any resemblance. Plus, Fisher has double the goals this season and had way more than Leggy last season.
Fisher also
according to a few ottawa websites reporting on the trade,
was the second most popular in team history behind alfredsson. The Ottawa Sun reported that for several years, his jersey was the 1st/2nd most popular in sales. This on a team that had some pretty good runs with Spezza, Alfredsson, Heatley, Chara, Hossa, Havlat, etc, bigger ‘name’ players, on clubs that went far.
His community service and charitable activities played a role, sure.
I can’t imagine he does anything less here.
Its just a good guy to grab, for the team, for playoff success, for the visibility of hockey in the area (yeah alot of that is going to come ’cause of his wife, so what?).
Legwand Lite? Please.
by DontfeedtheBelak on Feb 12, 2011 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Leggy doesn't have that many detractors...
…LOL!
Nice post.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 13, 2011 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
Twelve dollar tickets, baby!
There's only two kinds of teams in the NHL: Predators and prey.
by Predanooga on Feb 12, 2011 3:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I am!
Had tickets even before this game became a bid deal. Excited to be there to welcome Fisher! Maybe Mrs. Fisher will sing the anthem….that would be cool.
I’ll be there and GnashCupid will visit the lady with me.
by Hockey Hillbilly on Feb 12, 2011 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Section 302!!
{F!@# it guys, I got this- Pekka Rinne} -redskinsmarc-
by Preds Fanatic on Feb 12, 2011 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
we should have an OtF section and the arena
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by Creeping Death on Feb 12, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
STH, Sec. 310
The truth is neither libelous nor slanderous.
by shoot the puck on Feb 12, 2011 4:55 PM EST up reply actions
I sit in section 310 :)
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by Creeping Death on Feb 12, 2011 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
What is it you guys say at the beginning of the game? Or, rather, what is it the guy says first that you respond to?
he yells HIT SOMEBODY…. then we yell HARD
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by Creeping Death on Feb 12, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions
I knew it was “HARD”, I’ve been yelling that with you for a while, I just never could figure out what was said before that. For all I know, it could have been “Cisar’s head is…”
So, my tactic with conservation of apex predators is to get people excited and take them to where they live.
~Steve Irwin
it was originally “Chris Chelios thinks math is”…. but he doesn’t play anymore….. just kidding it wasn’t really that. but we could have used that during Detroit games
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by Creeping Death on Feb 12, 2011 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
row e, seat 13
The truth is neither libelous nor slanderous.
by shoot the puck on Feb 12, 2011 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
I float around 310… I think my seat tonight is H 13…. right beside the guy that yells hit somebody
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by Creeping Death on Feb 12, 2011 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll look for you.
The truth is neither libelous nor slanderous.
by shoot the puck on Feb 12, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
sweet! see you all there!
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by Creeping Death on Feb 12, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
Me
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Official Graphic Goon of On The Forecheck.
DON'T READ BLEACHER REPORT!
by Aditya T (smashville) on Feb 12, 2011 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta work...
Be there in spirit, and of course on the Game Thread.
GO PREDS!!!!!!!!
by HardCorePredFan316 on Feb 12, 2011 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
I'm out the door. Go Preds!
The truth is neither libelous nor slanderous.
GVT is in the eye of the beholder
Good post. But, as mentioned, it’s not like DP can say, “Gee, I’d really like a 30-goal scorer who I only have to pay $2M.” Those guys aren’t available. Could he have gotten a better goal-scorer for $4M/yr? Maybe, but it’s not like there are a ton of them out there. Could he have gotten an above-average goal-scorer who is also a responsible, two-way player who can play in all situations and upgrades the team’s toughness for the same price? Doubtful.
If the argument here had been that Fisher’s long-term deal stiffles the development of players like Wilson at center, O’Reilly/Spaling re-signing, Geoffrion’s roster spot, etc…. it’s probably more accurate. But I think there’s another thread about all of that.
I lied
I came back for one minute and then I saw the Mrs. Underwood headline. Honestly this is not funny or clever. This guy needs to do something different. It is disrespectful at best to go along with his overly negative Hockey analyzation skills. I liked what I saw in Fishers first game. Go Preds! We need scoring. We are slowly starting to get it! Attendance is way up. We need it. We are going to HAVE to pay Shea,Pekka and more Sooooo we need deep runs into the playoffs to get the cash. I think Paul and David are the best and who is better than Trotz. Thank god we now have local ownership and a great future!!!!
Predsfreak please stick around and post on this site...
the Mrs. Underwood title was offensive (forget the reasoning about the Tennessean, which is universally panned around here – and should be – so why would one emulate it?).
And the statistical analysis crunch that gets repeatedly displayed isn’t all that helpful, certainly not as our newest player takes the ice. I think several folks here know that – they get awfully sensitive when they were called on it (as occured when you first made your comments above). This article can only be described as neutral when the first half of it gives credence to the stats being used elsewhere (stats I suspect 75% of more of this readership had never heard of much less understand). It then debunks those stats – so its really neutral. So please stick around and lets keep everyone honest/focused/whatever words one would use.
btw, Fisher did two things last night (one of which I’m pointing out because it happened almost immediately) that were great and very un-Legwand like (I know, this challenges a sacred cow around here for several posters): Weber’s first goal, Fisher was screening in front of the net. And then I believe it was in the 2nd period Fisher drove on the net and shot on Budaj nearly point blank (who stopped it). I was there in 106 (had a good seat thanks to a guy on the street). I didn’t know the guy sitting to my left but after Budaj made the stop I said “some folks have compared FIsher to Legwand and I just don’t get it – Legwand could never have done that skating” and the guy immediately responded “nor does he shoot and he wouldn’t have pulled off that shot”.
Unless Lombardi is unable to return period, its going to be interesting to see what the Preds do with Lombardi, Fisher, Legwand, Smithson, Goc, Spaling and O’Reilly. Clearly more centers than they need. And, assuming Lombardi is healthy, I’d suggest the untouchables are Lombardi, Fisher, Smithson and Spaling (the latter two for penalty kill, budget, and the fact Trotz appreciates their style of play; the former two for skills). I know what I would do (which is not the point) but it sets up a real battle btwn Legwand, Goc and O’Reilly for what, one spot?
by keepellisingoal on Feb 13, 2011 12:02 PM EST reply actions
This article makes a lot of sense
Looking strictly at goals scored, Fisher does seem to be overpaid, particularly this year.
But he brings other things to the table, which, thanks to the growing level of statistical analysis, can at last be measured. The problem with coaches or fans saying things like ‘he plays with heart’ is not that what they say is untrue, it’s that such comments don’t necessarily get to the heart of the matter.
We in Ottawa are going to miss him a lot, even if the trade helps make the Senators a better team.
By the way, why are people complaining about a little joke? The Tennessean may have been (unintentionally) disrespectful with its ‘husband of Carrie Underwood’ line; but coming from actual fans of the team or player, that kind of stuff is funny. It’s all about context, which, I believe, was one of the points Sam Page was making about GVT.

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