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[Added by Sam Page, 03/13/11 12:12 AM EST ]

Although the final score shows a two goal win, the Predators barely held on to a close game against the Avs tonight. Each team had plenty of chances, but the Predators managed to clamp down in the crucial second half of the third period to ice the win. 

The scoring opened when Shea Weber pounded home a rebound right as time expired on a Predators power play. That goal won't count toward Nashville's poor PP%, but it was very much a result of the man-advantage. A takeaway by Blake Geoffrion at 11:30 in the first lead to a series of rebounds, one of which Matt Halischuk finally cashed in. Geoffrion's nice play typified a period of solid forechecking on Colorado's notoriously shaky defense. The Preds' ability to get the puck deep and pursue would wane, however, later in the game, letting Colorado pull closer.     

The Avalanche tallied their first goal, when Ryan O'Reilly, Cal's kid brother, scored off a rebound. Colorado had about 10 golden chances on that one sequence, with Blum, Klein, Erat, and Legwand collectively unable to clear the puck out of the crease. Joel Ward answered, with a beautiful unassisted breakaway goal. After breaking his stick for the 64th time this season, Ward skated to the bench, got a new stick, intercepted a Corado clear, danced Peter Budaj out of his pants, and simply slid the puck in the empty net. What's more unbelievable: that goal or that Ward had done the exact same move (and celebration) before?

(SKIP TO 3:22)

Colorado dictated the pace of the period, though, and Dave Winnick scored by banking a shot off Colin Wilson's leg. 

As the period ended, Jordin Tootoo reenergized the crowd with a pretty epic fight against Ryan Wilson.  Toots began by beating the much bigger Wilson's face in, but the referees actually let the bout carry on for a while. Wilson came back some, but Tootoo landed the better punches and pumped the crowd up with a screaming, WWE-style celebration lap at the end. 

The Predators came out a little flat in the third, but Pekka Rinne did his usual acrobatics to keep them in the game. Colorado made a valiant final push to send the game to overtime, but an incredible final effort for Ryan Suter and a gratuitous empty-netter from Martin Erat sent the fans home happy. 

Other observations after the jump.

Star-divide

  • Smithson-Spaling-Hornqvist debuted as one of the more ill-conceived lines of the season. Those three couldn't run with the Avs' good team speed. Patric Hornqvist has probably been the player most hurt by the shuffling lines, as he's lost consistent ice time and good offensive linemates. The Predators are going to need Hornqvist in these crucial final weeks. If playing Dumont means Trotz abandons this stupid two checking-line configuration, I'm all for it.
  • Geoffrion and Wilson played under 8 minutes each. Why? I didn't hear either were injured. They both basically disappeared by the third period. Notice how Trotz calls Wilson out for not scoring goals, yet only puts him out there for 7 minutes with Jerred Smithson and Spaling. Self-fulfilling scapegoats.
  • Weber and Suter are going to be leaned on heavily these next 13 games. 27:00 each tonight. 
  • Vancouver has come back to take the lead against Calgary. Yes!
  • Good game to see in person. Tootoo's craziness+Ward's sick move+the ever popular Weber goal.

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Great game Preds!

Well, great result, anyway…

by Swingnut on Mar 12, 2011 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

Avoided the trap, sweet. Even bigger games next week.

by DonBorvio on Mar 12, 2011 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

Missed all the goals

but still a great game for what I was able to watch.
Erat played well again.
As for other games around the leagues, GO VANCOUVER!

I live in the OC.
The one in OH.

by MattBen on Mar 12, 2011 10:59 PM EST reply actions  

And Ward had another great game!

by LuvthePreds on Mar 12, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

yes yes!

wardo too!
7 points in his last 7 games for him.

I live in the OC.
The one in OH.

by MattBen on Mar 12, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Ward made a me a believer tonight

I had been questioning if Wilson or Hornqvist could fill Ward’s role on that line better, but not tonight.

by flyalder on Mar 12, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Go watch the Ward goal....

It’s Ovechkin-ish.

Can’t say great game, but we lasted and won in regulation. We better bring a little more next week against LA, Boston, and Deet-Twaah.

GO PREDS!!!!!!!!!!!!

by HardCorePredFan316 on Mar 12, 2011 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

nope.

So, my tactic with conservation of apex predators is to get people excited and take them to where they live.
~Steve Irwin
There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
~Joe Strummer

by cisar on Mar 12, 2011 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Twaah is leading into..

a more scatalogical and anatomical reference, which is what they are.

by HardCorePredFan316 on Mar 12, 2011 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

WOW

I just went and watched the Ward goal.
Super super impressive.
Wow.

I live in the OC.
The one in OH.

by MattBen on Mar 12, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

"What a work of beauty"

I just watched it like 5 times in a row. It gets better with every view. He was well beyond the goal line when he reached back and put that in the goal.

by jerseypredsfan on Mar 12, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I vote Anaheim as my player of the game......

  For knocking both Hedjuk & Stastny out of the lineup last night! Not sure this game would have turned out so well with both of them playing……

  Ward really coming up big in a scoring role. Good job by him.

by Grizzledbear on Mar 12, 2011 11:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

As I sit here, enjoying my Frosty, I thank the Preds.
Keep it going boys!

So, my tactic with conservation of apex predators is to get people excited and take them to where they live.
~Steve Irwin
There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
~Joe Strummer

by cisar on Mar 12, 2011 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

So Geoffrion and Wilson played under eight minutes each....

so Wilson has been struggling and Geoffrion is a rookie. Why the “why”? And why dog Trotz for putting Wilson with Smithson and Spaling and call that self fulfilling scapegoats? Do we really think neither of them knows how to score or set up Wilson?

Maybe Wilson should play with Datsyuk and Zetterberg. Oh, yea, they don’t play for us. In fact, trading for someone along the lines of Penner (not comparing him to them but he is pretty talented) doesn’t occur and many posters say “good move” because god forbid we give up one of our (deep bench of talented) D men in the system (ie Milwaukee or below) for someone who can shoot and score. Someone Wilson might enjoy playing with for example.

by keepellisingoal on Mar 13, 2011 1:33 AM EST reply actions  

I'm not excusing Wilson's bad attitude

but there’s shades between Smithson and Penner. And, no, neither Smithson or Spaling know how to set up Wilson. They’ve got a combined 10 assists on the season.

And just because I wanted Wilson to play with better teammates, doesn’t mean trading a top prospect and a first we didn’t have for Penner would have been a good idea. Different issues.

by Sam Page on Mar 13, 2011 3:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Does Wilson have an attitude problem? I haven’t heard that. That sucks if he does.

by 29thWard on Mar 13, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure who is saying what here....

….but I am in the camp that believes Wilson is being bastardized by Trotz the way JP was. On the other hand, I think he’s being bastardized because he’s young and talented.

I watched the movie “The Last Samurai” last night. Trotz reminds me of the samurai cause he’s so old school that he does not adapt well. Kinda like how the samurai would not use guns. Well, Wilson is our young gun, but Trotz is too stupid to use him and just casts him aside in favor of muckers and grinders.

That was deep, I must rest now………………..

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Mar 13, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trotz said he wanted to play Geoffrion more, but was trying to stabilize the lines. Whatever that means.

by DonBorvio on Mar 13, 2011 4:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Wilson's horrible play in the defensive Zone...

…led to a goal, that was why he was benched in the third. Because it was the same lack of effort mistake he has made in the defensive zone all season. Trotzie is, and will continue to, trying to get his attention, you can’t just play an offensive game (which he has) and be a Predator. His lack of effort on that play kept this a game, he deserved to sit for it.

by Retired #7 on Mar 13, 2011 9:31 AM EDT reply actions  

He sits Wilson every game dude....

….you can’t blame it on a single goal. Trotz doesn’t know what to do with Wilson, that’s all.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Mar 13, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched the replay and...

Wilson had his guy locked up and the shot went in off of Wilson’s leg, what else would you like him to do?

Anyways, on that goal, the Avs were lucky that the ref didn’t call a goalie interference call on that one. The Colorado player standing behind Rinne had his glove hand hooked with his stick. I guess they figured they owed Colorado for the negated high-stick goal and a couple BS penalties called against them in this game.

JMHO

by HardCorePredFan316 on Mar 13, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

FOR ONCE

we played an entire 3rd period w/ a one goal lead and held it. we need more of that.

by predswilrule on Mar 13, 2011 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

"Gratuitous Goal?"

When it signals ice cream? We’re going to Wendy’s for a Marty Party.

by Hockey Hillbilly on Mar 13, 2011 10:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The Geoffrion/Wilson Question

It seemed to me that both got caught watching the puck and losing Avs players in the defensive zone a couple of times, rather than picking up players and then finding the puck. I was ok with it, neither are the most reliable defensively in the zone.

by PREDSFan615 on Mar 13, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

That 2nd goal was straight up Wilson’s fault and I am not talking about it deflecting off him into the goal. He just loses focus sometimes.

by 29thWard on Mar 13, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

For sure...

Wilson got lost and that’s why I am ok with his and Geoffrion’s decreased ice time in the 3rd.

by PREDSFan615 on Mar 13, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt that...

Trotz was un willing to put Wilson out there in the 3rd because of that 2nd goal. What kills me is that Wilson never had a chance to redeem himself. You could tell immediately that he knew he had screwed up. Give a kid a chance though. I guarantee you he was not going to screw up in the 3rd and he was going to play his ass off. Trotz really needs to look at himself when it comes to figuring out why we are such a terrible team in the 3rd. I don’t know if I have seen Geoffrion even play in the 3rd period since he has been up. Trotz rides some of the lines too much and they get worn out in the 3rd. He has got to get where he trusts these other guys. It is killing us lat in games. It’s not like we can’t keep up under normal circumstances, but when Erat, Leggy and Ward are out there every other shift, they are going to get tired.

by 29thWard on Mar 13, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT

your answer to not blowing 3rd period leads is to trust the player who just blew an assignment thus allowing a goal. that on top of the fact that he struggles defensively anyway. WOW! by the way… can you also :guarantee" lottery winners?

by predswilrule on Mar 13, 2011 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you even watch the PREDS?

Have you failed to notice how terrible we are in the 3rd? It is because our players are wasted. You got two guys on the bench that didn’t touch the ice in the 3rd. That’s ridiculous. No wonder we get lambasted and out shot. Do you watch the games? Do you? Do you not notice this pattern? Pay attention! If Trotz doesn’t trust players, then he doesn’t need to play them. It is costing us dearly in the 3rd period. THIS IS A CONSISTENT PROBLEM!

by 29thWard on Mar 13, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought you were saying you were ok with them losing guys in the D zone. I misunderstood. I get it now.

by 29thWard on Mar 13, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trotz does need to trust them...

but it has to be earned. I think 5 will get more time late as he adjust to his defensive responsibilities. However, Wilson doesn’t get that time and excuse…he needs to step up now! Ya, after I re-read my comment, it seemed to confuse what I was trying to say…my bad…I will step up, now!

by PREDSFan615 on Mar 13, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wilson doesn’t get that time and excuse

He is only in his second year. He is struggling.
But I don’t think the Sedins, Zett, Datsyuk, Crosby, Ovechkin, Staals, etc. of the world were defensive wunderkinds at first….some of them still aren’t.

Trotz shouldn’t put too much responsibility on Wilson right now, since he is playing poorly, but at the same time, that has to be balanced versus his chance to grow as a player. Get him with good linemates (SK74 and Fisher are fine, but for weeks before it was fourth line duty), get him some PP2 time, get him offensive zone starts, get him ideal low quality of comp opposition at home, etc.

I think Trotz, in general, can improve with putting young offensive fwds in good positions. On the other hand, he is great at developing and working with the Ward/Spaling/Halischuk type of forward.

by DontfeedtheBelak on Mar 13, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's true....

….one word that never comes up with Wilson’s ice time is “offense.”

The dude got drafted to play offense, not defense. Heaven knows we could use some of that.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Mar 13, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he has just hit a wall for now and is kinda coasting. I think he will break through in a big way eventually. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

by 29thWard on Mar 13, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right on...

offense! Wilson shouldn’t even have to play in our own zone! Just stay in the neutral zone and wait for the puck to get to him so he can SCORE!!!! Reliable two-way players are sooooo overrated.

by pete schweddy on Mar 13, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wilson was on his guy pretty well when that puck deflected off of him. Maybe I am missing something that happened earlier in the sequence?

So, my tactic with conservation of apex predators is to get people excited and take them to where they live.
~Steve Irwin
There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
~Joe Strummer

by cisar on Mar 13, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

You did

He failed to get the puck out of the zone prior to that shot. He turned the puck over in the D zone prior to that and it got passed to the point and they scored. He does it all the time. He tries to possess the puck and carry it out himself, when the safe and better play is to get it out of the zone as quickly as possible. He is just trying to do too much instead of keeping it simple. He also does the same thing when entering the zone too.

by 29thWard on Mar 13, 2011 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

But why do we have to bust his balls over this so much? There’s a lot of Wilson hate today. It’s not like he’s the only player to ever make a mistake that led to a goal.

by ahall07 on Mar 13, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just saying that’s why he got benched. He will figure it out, hopefully.

by 29thWard on Mar 13, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

How come...

…. Klein doesn’t get benched for the exact same thing?

by djzielin on Mar 14, 2011 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Trotz/young players problem

  One of the big contradictions this organization presents is that on one hand they have a reluctance to let rookies take on key roles at key times of the season due to the occasional mistake that they make, but on the other hand, we can’t afford to fill out the roster with all veteran players due to cost constraints. It seems like a self-defeating mentality. If you want the younger players to be contributors late in the season or in the playoffs, you gotta let them build up some confidence, not deflate their confidence. Trotz no doubt is in a dilemma due to having to squeeze every ounce out of a roster that on most nights is out-skilled by their opponents, but it seems to me at least that he needs to find a better happy medium than just benching young players as soon as they make a mistake on the ice.

  As for Ward’s recent production offensively, he’ll give you decent secondary scoring when given a clear role to play. He can play a lot of different roles for a team, which makes him worth keeping for his current price tag..

by Grizzledbear on Mar 13, 2011 4:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wilson

I thought he was suppose to be a two way forward and that’s why we drafted him. I like the kid, but he is awful in our zone. Also, Fisher, Kostitsyn and Wilson gotta be broken up. Aside from a couple good shifts a couple games ago, they have done nothing. Try Hornqvist in a combination with a couple of those guys. It would be nice to have a 2nd scoring line.

by 29thWard on Mar 13, 2011 11:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Fisher and Wilson

both are struggling.

I hope they pick it up, but neither looked good last night.

But Ward has had a stretch of good games in a row, as well as Erat and Legwand.
I am surprised Tootoo didn’t cup his ear and rip his jersey off .
And hey, Erat had the eye of the tiger on the empty net. He had the Fire or Legwand in his eyes!

DFTB
First Church Of Legwand
“We solidly endorse Erat’s stat-padding”

by DontfeedtheBelak on Mar 13, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if this mysterious Fisher injury that apparently has been going on all season is really affecting him. I love how I didn’t hear anything about this injury until a couple days ago. If it is true that he refuses to sit out for it to heal, then that’s just ridiculous. Especially if it is affecting him to where he isn’t producing, which he isn’t.

by 29thWard on Mar 13, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

apparently

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?s=55a4a97067d3961495ae3b41c09ca52c&t=823052

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/hockey/ottawa-senators/Fisher+Sens+offence+look+healthy/3896746/story.html

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/sports/hockey/ottawa-senators/Clouston+cool+with+Leclaire+getting/3821743/story.html

he came into the season with groin issues, and he has had groin issues before, then at different times he has had neck issues and lower body issues that (from those links) affected his ability to play physical, t skate, and to shoot.

His first few games in Nashville, he was flying around the ice. Not so his last few.
Perhaps he never got fully healthy.

Wouldn’t it be necc for him to pass a physical at the time of the trade?

by DontfeedtheBelak on Mar 13, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

From what I understand his injury was a torn rib cartilage or something like that. He did it when he was tripped up on a break away against Toronto. He crashed into the boards.

by rrs549 on Mar 13, 2011 2:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wow

That is quite literally the exact same goal, haha! Ward looked great last night and has for the past few weeks. I don’t know what was wrong with him in the first part of the season, but he looks like Joel Ward of last year right now and he makes the team better. This is a fun stretch, hope we keep up the W’s.

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by Poiju on Mar 13, 2011 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Ward

About time he turned it on, he needs a contract in the offseason.

by ahall07 on Mar 13, 2011 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Thinking the same thing. It appears that Poile called his agent and either low balled him or said we aren’t offering you a new contract.

Doh. Hawks tie it up.

by wrandsw on Mar 13, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cooper's article today

At the end of the Toots article, he wrote about Cal O’Reilly targeting early April as a return date. I know he will be behind and need a conditioning assignment, but thought the Preds announced he was done for the season?

by wrandsw on Mar 13, 2011 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Puck Semantics

I don’t remember anyone saying Cal was done for the year, but that could just be a factor of there being so many injuries that I can’t keep up.

ANYWAY.

Let’s say he is ready to get back skating the first week of April. The first full week of April begins Apr 4. So he readies that week and he gets back Apr 10 or 11. That is technically after the “season.”

And just so there’s a little fun in this comment: Hornqvist, Spaling and O’Reilly lead the Preds in Frosty Goals (only counting home games – as there is no tasty dessert treat awarded when the Preds notch four on the road). All three have two Frosty Goals, though one of Cal’s came by way of a SO (game v CBJ was 3-3 and he scored the only goal in the SO – we got Frosties that night, so I’m counting it).

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