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There are many ways that I could've headlined today's game, because the Predators did a lot of good things - they scored three goals, utilized their power play, and killed of some Detroit man advantages. 

There's only one way, however, to categorize a game in which the Preds gave up a 3 goal lead and lost in overtime, and that's by terming it a complete collapse - which it really was. 

When it was all said and done, the Nashville Predators fell 4-3 in overtime to the Detroit Red Wings, and while you could say they were fortunate to earn a point, that would be putting far too much lipstick on this pig. 



Ryan Suter, Martin Erat, and Sergei Kostitsyn scored for the Preds, while Pekka Rinne made 37 saves in the loss. 

Reaction and video highlights after the jump, with postgame audio from Mike FisherShea WeberShane O'BrienRyan SuterBarry TrotzDan ClearyJustin Abdelkader, and Mike Babcock

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Ten thoughts on this afternoon's game: 

  • We often poke fun of Predators' head coach Barry Trotz for constantly terming 5-on-3 advantages as "defining moments", but despite that, there's quite a bit of truth there - very often, not scoring on an extended two man advantage will prove disastrous later in the game. So when Ryan Suter scored with 1:00 remaining in the first and Martin Erat immediately after the 2nd started, that particular burden was lifted - the Preds desperately need their power play working as the playoffs roll around.
  • There are some things you never notice about hockey until you watch a game live. I've attended many games, but today was the first time I've noticed the absolute imbecility of Justin Abdelkader. Abdelkader, you see, is not your average pest - he sticks to disturbing fecal material behind the run of play and picking on less physical players, such as Martin Erat, whom he viciously boarded in the first period. The fact that Abdelkader scored twice only adds insult to injury, but I suppose there is something to be said for a player who has that much impact on a game.
  • From the first drop of the puck, it was clear that Shane O`Brien and Todd Bertuzzi weren't best of friends. They dropped the gloves 4:34 into the game in a fight which saw O'Brien start off poorly, which would prove to be his downfall. That's that, right? Wrong. O'Brien, apparently, wanted retribution, which he went after in the pair's second fight of the night while the Predators were up 3-0. Bertuzzi won, again, and it enabled Detroit to take away all the momentum. 
  • Pekka Rinne made 37 saves, which obviously was more than enough to keep his team in the game, but he didn't seem to have the switch flipped that allows him to completely dominate. When Dan Cleary scored the game winner in OT, Rinne was very clearly upset, banging his stick against the ice. 
  • I don't know about you, but I feel like somebody should send a thank you note to the Montreal Canadiens. Making just $550,000 and acquired for essentially nothing, Sergei Kostitsyn's 2nd period goal gave him a career high 20 (which leads the team) and extended his point streak to nine. Entry level contract players excluded, is there anyone in the NHL giving more bang for their buck? 
  • First period, second period, third period - it doesn't matter - the Nashville Predators can't hold a lead to save their lives. There are a multitude of reasons for this, but hopefully this particular loss will be the lesson learned they desperately need. 
  • I realize a lot of folks complain about there being so many Detroit fans in the building, and I certainly understand the sentiment, but if they want to keep funneling money into the organization, then by all means go ahead.
  •  In returning from a sprained left shoulder, Jimmy Howard looked fairly rusty for much of the game, and it was good to see Nashville get so many shots on net (34). To Howard's credit, however, he rebounded with a much stronger performance late, including an absolutely spectacular save on Joel Ward that would've sent fans home with Frosties. 
  • This was very early in the game, but worth mentioning: the intensity of the tilt was such that even some of Nashville's least physical players, J.P. Dumont and Cody Franson, were pushing Detroit players around and not letting anyone encroach on the personal space of Pekka Rinne. That's the kind of attitude it will take in the playoffs. 
  • With the win, Detroit clinched a playoff spot and probably eliminated all chance of Nashville winning the division. That isn't to say the Preds should rest on their laurels, however, quite the opposite - the point got them to fifth place, and home ice advantage is still very much in reach. 

Atlanta, Columbus, and St. Louis are Nashville's remaining opponents, and winning out should be the goal for the Preds - provided, of course, they can hold a lead. 

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Say what you will about Abdelkader

But his name is fun to say. Like one of those fake words the Soviets made up.

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by JRTheByLineGrinder on Apr 2, 2011 6:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

RAGE

The best defense is a good defense.

by Smashvillain on Apr 2, 2011 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I need to see how the Preds have played with the lead relative to the rest of the teams in the NHL, it seems like they’ve been relatively awful in that situation all year.

BTW, it was this afternoon’s game. Big pet peeve of mine, the way so many folks (broadcasters, players, etc.) say “tonight’s” almost out of reflex since that’s when most games are played.

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by Dirk Hoag on Apr 2, 2011 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I saw some stats on that a while back; if I remember right, the Preds are among the worst at protecting leads, but among the best at overcoming deficits.

The best defense is a good defense.

by Smashvillain on Apr 2, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bleh, sorry about that – I tried to make sure I got all those out.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 2, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that kinda sucked. A few ill timed things and too much defending the lead. And Ward was absolutely terrible, standing around, not shooting. Also he got the puck and looked like a dog when he catches a squirrel and doesn’t know what to do with it, and it runs away! Smithson was getting the rebounds but while he tried, he’s not Kostitsyn.

Nice try for last few minutes of the 3rd (the 2nd was the real problem), but Howard was on fire at that point. But really have to start that killer instinct again, can’t rest on your 3-0 lead.

by DonBorvio on Apr 2, 2011 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Went to the game. Great atmosphere until the dead wings took over. Hate the wings, hate the wings, I hate them so. But it was funny to see their fans cheering and taking pictures in front of the Bridge ike they just won the cup.

by Pred4970 on Apr 2, 2011 6:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Where was Legwand?

I was very surprised at the disapperance of Legwand in this game. Now, mind you—with the exception of his play this March—I think he has been very underwhelmiing this year. But just like you can count on Leggy playing his hardest against an open net, you can ALWAYS count on Legwand to play like a madman against the wings….I sure as hell didn’t see THAT version of Legwand today. He spent most of the game turning the puck over and coasting (not skating) towards the puck or a man with the puck.

I cannot wait to see him leave this team. Jean Pierre, too. I hope like hell Toots comes back so that JP can go back to washing jocks during the game. (that is what they make him do, right?)

by turd-ferguson on Apr 2, 2011 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

May Poile will remember what he said about Legwand at the beginning of the season. I really think we need to get rid a lot of this old blood; Trotz relies on them too heavily when they mostly suck.

by DonBorvio on Apr 2, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good news!

Legwand’s not going anywhere.

Have a nice day…

The best defense is a good defense.

by Smashvillain on Apr 2, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Luckily, only one more year of Dumont, but three more of Legwand, and they both have no-move or no-trade contracts.

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by shoot the puck on Apr 2, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can you say healthy scratch?

He’ll be begging to get outta here if they make it tough on him.

They’re doing it with JP, why not Leggy?

On the other hand, I’m not ready to jump ship on Legwand yet. He wasn’t productive to day, but he’s been a pointa game lately so we have to temper our hatred for now….at least until he’s back to less than a halfa pointa game, which I hope doesn’t happen.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Apr 2, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the bright side..

with Dallas losing to the Kings, one more win will lock us into the playoffs.

by DonBorvio on Apr 2, 2011 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually, could clinch tomorrow if Dallas loses in regulation to Anaheim.

by DonBorvio on Apr 2, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

We clinch a tie with Dallas if they lose in regulation tomorrow. Magic number is 3. That got cut in half today – which is something, I suppose.

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by JRTheByLineGrinder on Apr 2, 2011 7:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Three of Detroit’s goals scored by two players with a total of six goals between them before today’s game. The Preds seem to be in a season-long habit of making lesser players look great.

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by shoot the puck on Apr 2, 2011 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

OtF Post-Season Awards

One should be the Jack Skille Award, for the lesser light who appeared most like Maurice Richard against the Preds. Nice meeting you today, SWFP. You too, Creeping Death. And Link. And AJ. And Brad yesterday.

Clearly, I need to stop meeting fellow OtFers. For the record, this loss is on Faaaangy. He’s been riding with me and the Mrs. Not today.

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by JRTheByLineGrinder on Apr 2, 2011 8:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good to meet you too....

….but don’t tell my detractors who I am :)

I believe that Skille, at the last game he torched us, had 4 of his 5 or 6 career goals against us….in two games no less.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Apr 2, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice to meet you too man! GO PREDS!!!!!

I'm sent here by the chosen one

by Creeping Death on Apr 2, 2011 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you also notice that none of Detroit’s big guns scored? Zetterberg, Holmstrom, Lidstrom…I wonder why that is?

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 2, 2011 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well Lidstrom didn’t score because of Holmstrom.

by J.J. from Kansas on Apr 2, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Datsyuk didn’t score because he didn’t play. Thank heavens

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by JRTheByLineGrinder on Apr 2, 2011 9:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Zetterberg didn’t score cause Fisher was keeping his ass up against the boards!

I'm sent here by the chosen one

by Creeping Death on Apr 2, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Collapse an appropriate description......

  This game is precisely why, as I wrote yesterday in another thread, that I’ll have a hard time picking us to win a playoff series. Once the intensity got ratcheted up in this game, we didn’t have the horsepower to respond. Two late PP’s and we couldn’t put one home to win the game. Give up over 40 SOG to a team like the Wings, Sharks or Canucks and you’ll have a hard time winning a 7 game series against them. We’ll be in the playoffs, no doubt about that and a good accomplishment considering all the injuries we’ve had, but I see nothing about this team that differentiates it from previous Preds playoff teams.

by Grizzledbear on Apr 2, 2011 7:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

have to agree with you. They have too much trouble lasting three quarters and no one seems to know why. I suppose they don’t know either.

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by amyinsparta on Apr 2, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

one more win will lock us into the playoffs</blockquote
One more win merely eliminates Calgary. If Dallas wins out in regulation/ot and we win just the one, the two teams will be tied in points and wins but Dallas wins the tiebreaker by virtue of more ROWs.

The truth is neither libelous nor slanderous.
Reason and logic instead of hope and faith.

by shoot the puck on Apr 2, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Fine, a Dallas loss and Preds win. I doubt Dallas running the table though.

by DonBorvio on Apr 2, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

  I realize we haven’t officially clinched a playoff spot, but we’ll be in, a miracle would have to happen for us not to make it.

by Grizzledbear on Apr 2, 2011 8:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You said it...

and if this jinxes us like my friend did today, I’m hunting you down and making a GrizzledBear rug outta you….;)

by HardCorePredFan316 on Apr 2, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

  If we flub the dub and miss the playoffs, the whole organization should be grizzled and fried! :D

by Grizzledbear on Apr 2, 2011 11:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What would "The Nashville Predators" taste like?

I’m thinkin chicken…

I live in the OC.
The one in OH.

by MattBen on Apr 2, 2011 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

  Its best we don’t find out. :D

by Grizzledbear on Apr 3, 2011 1:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

wow, did we watch the same game....

this wasn’t a collapse, Chris. Detroit’s a good team. We played them well. Did we play our best? no. but was this a collapse? no, a collapse is a 10-3 loss to the Blues (Detroits last game) or some of the poor performances any team (Preds included) can take but that’s no what happened this afternoon. and we did not lose the momentum after SOB took on Bertuzzi a second time. of course SOB is going to struggle, what is Bertuzzi, a foot taller – with a huge advantage in reach. the team, and the fans were glad to see SOB step up. With Toots out (and Belak out to pastuer pre-maturely – he should be on roster getting scratched every game until one like this when the need is obvious), someone has to step up and he shouldnt be Weber.

by keepellisingoal on Apr 3, 2011 1:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Let me guess, you didn’t think the Toronto game was a collapse either.

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by Patten on Apr 3, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Collapse might be a slight overstatement....

….but perhaps implosion would better describe the event…..

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Apr 3, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Collapse, implosion, whatever you want to call it – blowing a 3-0 lead is unacceptable.

"Nothing." - Tuukka Rask, after being asked what he saw on Shea Weber's game winner in overtime.

by Chris Burton on Apr 3, 2011 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think collapse is an apt description. You’re leading 3-0 on home ice with the #2 goalie and #3 defense going for you and the Wings hand you eight power plays. How do you not win this game?

The Predators left three division points on the table, the one they should have had and the two they gave the Wings.

The truth is neither libelous nor slanderous.
Reason and logic instead of hope and faith.

by shoot the puck on Apr 3, 2011 2:17 AM EDT reply actions  

we have 3 games left, detroit has 4

even if we win in regulation, they’re still 2 pts ahead of us. I NEVER want to see us lose but lets not overdescribe this loss. it hurts because we would be that much stronger in the standings but that doesnt make it a collapse.

btw, we scored on two pp’s. again, this was no chump team we were playing.

by keepellisingoal on Apr 3, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

SOB

Made it a 5 defenseman game for the first half of the game… of course the D got tired.

by djzielin on Apr 3, 2011 8:19 AM EDT reply actions  

He also got Bertuzzi off the ice for 10 minutes.

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by Patten on Apr 3, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bertuzzi knew too

Why needlessly fight again?

Bertuzzi knew it would make the defense shorter. Wings can score with 4 lines, one short.

Trotz rolled out 2 1/2 lines Saturday. Everyone was gassed.

by djzielin on Apr 4, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Mr. Trotz,

Just in case you forgot, you have 12 forwards for each game. And that includes the third period. I thought it was pretty obvious that most of the forwards were running on less than fumes late in the game. That is all.

by ahall07 on Apr 3, 2011 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

If I am remembering correctly, I was thinking that we saw more of the 4th line in the 3rd than we have the past 2 or 3 games. I distinctly remember thinking, wow, Trotz has Wilson out this late in the 3rd…he must have been reading Otf :)

by TitanPredBearFan on Apr 3, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you know?

Joel Ward scores more goals per minute of PP time than anyone else on the team.

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by Dirk Hoag on Apr 4, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's not saying much on a scrub-ass-wannabe-PP

His lack of skill brings everybody down so they can’t score either.

Cmon, the dude doesn’t belong on the ice during “skill periods.”

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Apr 4, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

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