Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Indy 500: 'Greatest Spectacle In Racing' Set For Sunday

Compensation for restricted free agents set by NHL

Craig Custance at the Sporting News just passed along information which is being distributed by the NHL to its teams, outlining the compensation levels that teams receive if another team signs a Restricted Free Agent away from them. Based on the average salary in the new contract, the compensation received by the team losing the free agent are as follows:

Star-divide

$1,034,249 or below: No compensation

$1,034,249 -- $1,567,043: Third-round pick

$1,567,043 -- $3,134,055: Second-round pick

$3,134,088 -- $4,701,131: First and third-round pick

$4,701,131 -- $6,268,175: First, second and third-round pick

$6,268,175 -- $7,835,219: Two first-round picks, a second and third

$7,835,219 and higher: Four first-round picks

For the Nashville Predators, there are 10 RFA's listed per NHLNumbers.com. The big one, obviously, is captain Shea Weber, but others who spent a lot of time in Nashville include Cal O`Reilly, Nick Spaling, Sergei Kostitsyn, and Matt Halischuk, In the farm system, the RFA's include Mark Dekanich, Andreas Thuresson, Chris Mueller, Teemu Laakso, and Linus Klasen (who has already gone back to Sweden).

Do you think the Preds would be in danger of losing any of these guys to offer sheets? Personally, I doubt it, unless perhaps Sergei Kostitsyn tries to play hardball and finds someone willing to pay multi-millions. While Shea Weber is undoubtedly attractive, the Predators would likely match any offer. Custance, in a followup article, even asked Barry Trotz about that possibility:

"We'll just match it," Trotz told Sporting News. "I can tell you, whatever they offer, it'll just get matched."

In order to retain these compensation rights, the Preds must at least make a qualifying offer to each of these players, if they're not already signed by July 1. If a player does receive an offer sheet from another team, the Predators would have the right to match the deal in order to retain the player. Players actually changing teams via offer sheets are incredibly rare (have there been any since Dustin Penner a few years ago?), although sometimes teams will submit an offer sheet, knowing that the other team will match, forcing their hand to perhaps pay more for a player than they otherwise would.

GM's in general stay away from such tactics, as was demonstrated in 2006 when Bobby Clarke (then-GM of the Flyers) made a one-year, $1.9 million offer sheet to some young scrub in Vancouver (follow that link to find out who). His colleagues howled in disbelief at the time...

One thing to keep in mind is that to extend an offer sheet which might trigger this compensation, a team must have their own draft picks available to give to the other team, they cannot use those they've received in trade from elsewhere.

Comment 30 comments  |  1 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

Losing Weber would suck, but those 4 first-rounders look awfully nice…

Writer at OnTheForecheck.com. On twitter at @OTFMarc (NHL) and @MarcTorrence (everything else).

by Marc Torrence on May 25, 2011 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know about that … IF Poile didn’t at least take the maximum amount of time to decide whether or not to match, then I’d be pissed.

by Dave_is_a_killer on May 25, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Known YOUNG Norris Candidate who will perform for years and is the face of the organization > First round picks

especially when you consider Weber won’t be getting THAT much in the cap era. Weber isn’t going anywhere, he’s staying in Nashville. He’s said as much. You guys don’t need to even debate the possibility.

<3 Boobies!
#WinitForManny
notafullcolon CS: Well obviously I meant we were snorting blow off hookers at the time of the goal

by Canuckles on May 26, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

So … what teams have the cap space and the necessary picks to really make the often rumored, rarely seen offer?

by 101st on May 25, 2011 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't really have any concerns.

The price for our beloved Captain (in draft picks) is going to be steep.

However, since a certain press conference this morning was announced, certain Wings fans have been licking their chops and eying our first pair. It’s border line molestation.

EASports' NHL 11 doesn't suck; in fact, it's really damn good! Wait, what!?
Go Predators!!!

by Poiju on May 25, 2011 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

What the heck are you talking about?

Is Lidstrom gonna announce his retirement?

The truth is always the right answer....

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on May 25, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe he’s referring to the Rafalski retirement (6 Mil More off of Detroit’s Books)

by Dave_is_a_killer on May 25, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh....I just saw that.

No way Weber signs with Detroit…right?

The truth is always the right answer....

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on May 25, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our only hope of keeping Weber is to sign him before the free agency period.

Else there’s no way we can match what other teams would likely offer him.

The truth is always the right answer....

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on May 25, 2011 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

This is an excellent point.

I think him and DP are waiting to see if a particular award is handed out. However, if DP get GM of the year also, nothing really changes does it? ;-)

EASports' NHL 11 doesn't suck; in fact, it's really damn good! Wait, what!?
Go Predators!!!

by Poiju on May 25, 2011 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, they are not waiting for the awards show, they are waiting for Drew Doughty out in LA to see what he gets paid

by Dave_is_a_killer on May 25, 2011 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

//Joking Font// fail.

EASports' NHL 11 doesn't suck; in fact, it's really damn good! Wait, what!?
Go Predators!!!

by Poiju on May 25, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every year it’s star player X is going to get and accept an offer sheet …. and it’s always about ONE 2nd/3rd tier RFA who receives and accepts an offer sheet.

Ryan Kesler Matched
Thomas Vanek Matched
Dustin Penner Accepted
David Backes Matched
Steve Bernier Matched
Niklas Hjalmarsson Matched

Kesler wasn’t the guy in 06 that he is now. Penner hasn’t proved worthy of the money and picks …and he’s the only one who moved.

by 101st on May 25, 2011 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

this isn't like the NFL

RFA are rarely signed because of the steep compensation and most teams can match the offer sheet anyways.

by djzielin on May 25, 2011 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I think we'll get Weber signed, but.....

  I could see a team offer something right up to the 7.8M range where they would only lose two 1st rounders, a 2nd & a 3rd if we failed to match their offer. I think most teams would be willing to give that up for a player like Weber but not four 1st round picks. Someone (Wings) could really screw us over salary-wise too if they made an offer that high knowing we would match it. Just hope we can get a deal done for no more than 7M per season…..that we could live with.

by Grizzledbear on May 25, 2011 6:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Gotta pitch the whole TN is cheaper thing. Also the fact he’s here; he’s the captain; the team is growing; the fanbase is growing. It’s something to be a part of and we’re so close to that ultimate goal. Just demand we get a real forward or Rads back from Russia, and let’s do this next season!

"My, my, here's one for the (no) neck. Don't relax, 'cause you're next for the check!"

by DonBorvio on May 25, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

  I think the scoring forward selling point is probably as important as any of the other selling points are. Webs isn’t gonna want to play forever on an all D, little offense type of team.

by Grizzledbear on May 25, 2011 8:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

sometimes teams will submit an offer sheet, knowing that the other team will match

by LuvthePreds on May 25, 2011 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s the first thing I thought when I saw the Trotz quote – thinking that it wasn’t a good idea to say that, in case it would make a team try to make us pay more for Weber so we’d have less for other players. Wonder why he’d say that publicly?

by LuvthePreds on May 25, 2011 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

  No doubt to try and scare other teams off from even thinking about making an offer to Weber (but shouldn’t that be Poile making that statement?). But if the purpose of a team doing that is simply to run up the price on us, then I agree, it really isn’t a helpful thing to say.

by Grizzledbear on May 25, 2011 8:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

this is my biggest concern

not saying we shouldn’t match it, but there are plenty of people in the league who can’t stand Nashville anyway due to revenue sharing. I can easily see one of those teams submitting a high $$$ contract just to force our hand higher.

TN Sports fan in Hoosier Country....

by Evanbio on May 26, 2011 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

The offer sheet is the boogieman of RFA negotiations. A couple of years ago the fear was that teams would tender offer sheets to both Weber and Suter … didn’t happen. Didn’t happen with Hornqvist. An offer has been made to, and signed by, a player a total of six times since the lockout … two of those are Kevin Lowe’s work … and of those six, only one wasn’t matched.

A cap increase to $62mil still leaves very few teams that could take on a $7.5mil contract while signing their current FAs. Chicago, Calgary, Philly, San Jose … no possibility. A quick look makes it look like Tampa or Montreal have the room to make such a move, but, they have their own players to sign like Stamkos or the 17 UFA/RFAs that the Habs need to deal with.

Rather than worrying about the boogieman …. name the teams who could realistically make an offer. Dallas, Atlanta, and Long Island all have the cap space … not sure about the picks. While they have the cap room, they don’t really have the real money. Maybe Ottawa?

by 101st on May 26, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

  It happened last year with the Hawks Dman, whose name I will completely botch if I try to spell it here, LOL! I don’t think it’s likely to happen with Weber, but I wouldn’t rule it out either. Best to get him signed before July rolls around. :)

by Grizzledbear on May 26, 2011 6:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hjalmarsson was offered a 4 year, $14mil offer sheet … $3.5mil per … the usual one per season, 2nd or 3rd tier RFA to sign an offer sheet. Only Vanek signed a big dollar offer sheet (7mil per year for 63 pts on average per season).

The Wings are one of the few teams with the potential cap space and picks, but, the offer sheet is a move that most GMs don’t look upon favorably and I doubt Holland would make that move.

The Blues, Avs, Bruins, Caps, Flyers, Sharks, Stars, Nuks, Devils, Kings, Ducks, and Leafs have all traded away a 1st, 2nd or 3rd round pick in 2012 so they probably won’t be making any offers to Shea. The Panthers, Oilers, Islanders are uncompetitive. Then there are the cap hell teams like the Hawks and Penguins who don’t have the room to take on a $7mil plus contract. Tampa doesn’t have a lot of room per person, nor do the Habs.

The “somebody” who would make an offer and “drive up the price” doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. Detroit – unlikely with Holland. Phoenix and Atlanta – too cash strapped. Buf, NYR – tough fit within the cap considering how many players they need to sign. Columbus? Ottawa? Carolina? Minny?

by 101st on May 27, 2011 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Detroit if Lidstrom retires. ;)

  That’s when it could get dicey. I don’t think they’ll do it, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility either. Maybe Leipold feels like being a jerk as well. :)

by Grizzledbear on May 27, 2011 2:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Minny is at over $52mil without a backup goalie and they need to re-sign/replace Kobasew, Brunette, Miettinen, and Madden up front. Just how do they pull off a $7mil offer sheet?

The more scrutiny potential offer sheets get, the fewer teams have the means to do it.

by 101st on May 27, 2011 6:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

  Lighten up a bit, humor is good for the soul!

by Grizzledbear on May 27, 2011 7:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

  I should add that if a team were interested in pitching an offer sheet to someone but lacked the cap space to do so, they could trade a big contract to free up that needed cap space (e.g. Burns in Minny). Unlikely to happen, but a teams current cap situation can be altered.

by Grizzledbear on May 28, 2011 2:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about the Nashville Predators.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Stax_at_night_small
Strictly for imagination. Battle of team goal chants
Small
So apparently Suter is 86 out the door
Josiah_small
My Roster Proposal for the Predators...Give Me Yours
Small
Whats the cost for the "Big-2"
Gameon100_small
Miss: A Recurring Theme
Preds_game_small
Moving on from Game 4
Sackboy_small
Why are the Preds so streaky?
Preds_game_small
What was gained, or lost, in Game 4
Predhead_small
Intent to Blow
E-pred_small
We're all talkin about it. Let's make it official.....

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >

Best of Nashville 2011 - Best Sports Blog

About OTF

is the Forechecker, churner of NHL stats & analysis, and managing editor of On the Forecheck.

Me_medium_medium

Got a question, a suggestion, or are interested in advertising here to reach thousands of Nashville Predators fans? Feel free to email the.forechecker@gmail.com.

Are you new here? Read this first!

On The Forecheck Community Guideilnes

Check us out on iTunes!

Otf_podcast_medium


Managers

Forechecker_35_small Dirk Hoag

Muckers

Rad_small Chris Burton

Grinders

Kanye_pekka_small Sam Page

91490_obit_heimerdinger_football_small Aditya T (smashville)

Adslogo_small Ryan B. Miller

209353_10150193095230917_581960916_8380447_5205638_o_small Marc Torrence

Enforcers

Infinite_sadness_avatar_small 3DLink

Photo_on_2011-12-09_at_00 davisca