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NHL Draft 2011 Day 2 Open Thread & Saturday notes

It was a wild day yesterday as the 2011 NHL Entry Draft got under way, with major trades making news around the league. San Jose dealt Devon Setoguchi to Minnesota, Chicago was able to dump the Brian Campbell contract, and the Maple Leafs picked up an offensive defenseman to fill the void left by Tomas Kaberle.

Will we see anything like that today (coverage starts at 10:00 Central on NHL Network)? The Predators will finally get down to business with the 8th pick in the second round, so use this thread to follow all the action, and follow after the jump for your morning hockey notes...

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Once again, here are the picks the Preds possess right now:

Pick Player
38 (Round 2) From New Jersey (Jason Arnott Trade)  
52 (Round 2) Nashville Predators Own Pick  
82 (Round 3) Nashville Predators Own Pick  
94 (Round 4) From Florida (Mike Santorelli Trade)  
112 (Round 4) Nashville Predators Own Pick  
142 (Round 5) Nashville Predators Own Pick  
172 (Round 6) Nashville Predators Own Pick  
202 (Round 7) Nashville Predators Own Pick

Nashville Predators News

Preds On The Glass: First Round Notes and Wrap-Up at the 2011 NHL Entry Draft
Buddy shares the main stories from around the arena floor.

LIVE FROM THE NHL DRAFT: Poile reacts to first round | Section 303
Jeremy caught up with the GM after watching the festivities last night.

2010-11 Wrap-up: Of Blings and Strings (Part 1/2) | Pull My (Fang)Finger
AJ wasn't happy to see the Predators get shut out of the major trophies in Las Vegas, but doesn't let that overshadow the positive stories coming out of the end of the season.

Nashville Predators pin hopes on today's NHL Draft picks - The Tennessean
David Poile's ready to get to work, with the #38 and #52 picks kicking things off. 

Predators have solid history in second round - Predators Insider
Josh Cooper walks through the Preds' 2nd-round success in recent years.

Around the NHL

Blackhawks escape Brian Campbell contract thanks to Panthers - Puck Daddy
Wow, Dale Tallon really bails out Chicago here. The Blackhawks gain a lot of flexibility now under the salary cap. Along with Alexander Sulzer, the Panthers will now boast one of the top red-headed blueline pairs in the NHL.

San Jose trades Devin Setoguchi, Charlie Coyle, and first round pick to Minnesota in exchange for Brent Burns - Fear The Fin
This is a bit of an odd one, as it makes you wonder if the Preds were in the running for Setoguchi. He's no All-Star, but he'd provide a real boost on the wing in Nashville, and offensive defenseman would appear to be the Preds' most abundant trade asset.

Brent Burns Trade Analysis - Hockey Wilderness
From the Minnesota perspective, Burns will be missed, but it sounds like a good deal overall for them.

Regehr agrees to waive no-move clause for deal to Sabres - TSN
Robyn Regehr is a steady force on the blueline, and appears to be headed to Buffalo.

Leafs Trade for Liles - Pension Plan Puppets
Toronto picks up a legitimate puck-moving defenseman for a 2nd-round pick? Larceny!

Video: Capitals’ George McPhee explains Troy Brouwer trade - Puck Daddy
...and the Capitals gave up a 1st rounder for this guy?

Finding a tough minutes center from the UFA pool - Broad Street Hockey
How can the Flyers replace Mike Richards? That's a tall order.

Stars part ways with assistant coach Charlie Huddy - The Dallas Morning News
With a new head coach taking over, the assistant goes out the door.

Here is the 'New' Florida Panthers Jersey - On Frozen Pond
It's back to the future for the Panthers.

Best places to buy Winnipeg Jets NHL gear | Hockey Gear HQ - news, reviews & deals
By choosing the Winnipeg Jets as their name, the relocated NHL team can tap into an existing hockey culture in Manitoba. Their new logo & colors haven't made it onto merchandise yet, but their old stuff will be in huge demand.

Save money with coupon code for Warrior & UnderArmour gear | Hockey Gear HQ - news, reviews & deals
Using this special offer code will give you an extra 15% off already-discounted Warrior and UnderArmour items found at Hockey Monkey. Even if you don't play hockey, the UnderArmour selection is pretty impressive.

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Pick up a couple forwards...

…that are the equivalent of Suter and Weber please. :)

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 9:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Just find another Taylor Beck please

by Lil cutie on Jun 25, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, maybe Khokhlachev would fill that bill.

http://www.section303.com/live-from-the-nhl-draft-second-round-targets-for-the-preds-11719

Pretty much the three guys we’re hoping on being available.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would we draft another Russian though?

by Lil cutie on Jun 25, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was teammates with Ellis, and his name is not Radulov. I think he’s a different person and would probably stick around.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s already been over here in NA a while, and I bet they have him as one of those 4 targets they’re looking at.

by OddManRush on Jun 25, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

  This past season in Windsor was his first season playing over in North America, so I’m not sure he’s been over here very long.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 11:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

My bad. I thought it had been 2 seasons.

by OddManRush on Jun 25, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

  Yeah, but the KHL doesn’t have it’s own network to watch him play. ;)

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 10:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

  Grimaldi at #38 and maybe Prince or Rask if they’re still there at #52 would work. :)

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 9:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Our exciting 2009 draft

It could end up being a banner year for us. Ellis, Budish, Roussel, Beck, Latta, Smith, Ekholm and Bourque. All of these guys have legit NHL-level potential!

by Lil cutie on Jun 25, 2011 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

If Budish can recover from his string of injuries. The rest are looking pretty good though.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

  Actually, the first 3 picks of that draft almost drove me to madness. Hope they work out, but we left some good forwards on the board in those first two rounds.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 10:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The Preds will pick up good quality players with their picks - they always do. I’m most interested in seeing the new sweater-hope it rocks!

Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life

by TNBrando on Jun 25, 2011 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Foiled by the strikeout.

You can see the new sweater at Preds On The Glass: http://www.predsontheglass.com/2011/06/pictures-of-nashville-predators-new.html – Click on the pics to get the full size.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jurco,Grimaldi,Khokhlachev

Like I have said in the other thread if we can get Jurco, Grimaldi, or Khokhlachev I would be very happy.All of these prospects can score and can play a little D.Khokhlachev however would be my first pick as he is the elite scorer we need for the future.

by predsfan95 on Jun 25, 2011 10:21 AM EDT reply actions  

  But will he play here, that is the question.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 10:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sweet, NHL Network still works from my Center Ice package.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m just glad they are broadcasting it on NHL.com.

by OddManRush on Jun 25, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awake and ready for the second day

Is it wrong to be drinking a beer at 10am?

"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster

by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jun 25, 2011 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Nope, I’m staying up for this. I’ll be up about 24 hours by the time I’m done.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

  I’d go with coffee myself……….but keep some on standby when you have to sober up! :D

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 11:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Does anyone know when the actual drafting starts?

by Preds Fanatic on Jun 25, 2011 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Dan Tencer on twitter said that the Oilers are on the clock at 12 minutes past the hour.

by OddManRush on Jun 25, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

10:12

Lemme quote the late, great Colonel Sanders. He said "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken."

by Chris Burton on Jun 25, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me too.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

  I know……we need to keep him around for the Parise trade! ;)

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 11:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Can not wait to see him play

by Shadow23 on Jun 25, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

FU very much Florida! :P

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

so much for grimaldi and jurco

by robjustice on Jun 25, 2011 11:19 AM EDT reply actions  

  This is starting off really badly. :(

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 11:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Who did we just pick? lol

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Grizz, dude, we’re going to trade Rinne for Parise – I bet. What else would the Devils want more?

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

  It’ nice to fanticize about, but the fact is, we’re doing what we always do……..nothing!

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 11:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Wow. Hellberg looks like Lindback!

by OddManRush on Jun 25, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought the exact same thing!

by ILovethe#6CannonFire on Jun 25, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, another piece in the Wall of Scandinavia.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

there you go ladies and gents. hellberg was his name? a goalie??

by robjustice on Jun 25, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

lol his name still isnt on the board 2 picks later

by robjustice on Jun 25, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

GMDP what magic do you have up your sleeve?

by Shadow23 on Jun 25, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

See above :)

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cue the trade speculation…aaaaaaand GO!

Goaleez R weerd.

by CAustin on Jun 25, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

If there is no trade cooking then it must be meth! That makes no sense.

by 901predfan on Jun 25, 2011 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am a little perplexed

A goaltender? Hmmm… GMDP must be up to something

"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster

by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jun 25, 2011 11:26 AM EDT reply actions  

Okay, I’m no one and have no inside info at all, but…Dex is probably ready to move into a backup (or very close) but there’s no room for him here. Trade his rights?

Goaleez R weerd.

by CAustin on Jun 25, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was my first thought.

by OddManRush on Jun 25, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

Or maybe we are trying to see if we can play one of the goalies as a Fwd

by Shadow23 on Jun 25, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

a small part of me is thinking…well, Rinne did get that assist :D

Goaleez R weerd.

by CAustin on Jun 25, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

He did indeed

but every time he comes out of the net to play the puck i yell at him to get back in the crease and not play the puck

by Shadow23 on Jun 25, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh God, me too. He’s just not that good at it.

Goaleez R weerd.

by CAustin on Jun 25, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s actually getting better at it.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. But still, I gotta have something to freak out about.

Goaleez R weerd.

by CAustin on Jun 25, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is not bad at it

but i just get very uneasy when he does

by Shadow23 on Jun 25, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're not doing anything!

  This is just yet another episode of this organization thinking themselves smarter than the conventional wisdom and doing the contrarian thing. They sat on their collective asses while the top offensive talent in yet another draft got gobbled up. You know why our offense sucks? Because we don’t freaking draft any offense!

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 11:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

thank you… my thoughts exactly

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody drafts for need in the second round, these players are years away – you draft who you think is the best player available. Hellberg sounds legit.

Lemme quote the late, great Colonel Sanders. He said "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken."

by Chris Burton on Jun 25, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

this

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Go Bolts! Out West, go Preds! Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m digging the ‘Southern Hockey Solidarity’ thing, there!

by OddManRush on Jun 25, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

awesome

thanks

Heel for school, Vol for life!

Go Bolts! Out West, go Preds! Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

where we were in the 2nd round it was basically late 1st round guys anyway

by Shadow23 on Jun 25, 2011 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now that's passion

Freaking out over a 2nd-round draft pick, guys who won’t sniff the NHL for 3-4 years, if ever.

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by Dirk Hoag on Jun 25, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

if ever? well geez, why even bother drafting anyone at all then? pretty crappy way to look at it

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

You just have to take the long view

Don’t look at today’s draftees in comparison to today’s needs of the team. Draft the guys you think can best make the NHL, and things work out in the long run. Offensive help for the Preds in 2011-12 isn’t coming from this draft.

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by Dirk Hoag on Jun 25, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

that much is clear… but don’t you see a pattern… everyone understands that this isn’t a football draft…. these players will not play next year (with the exception of a few from the top) but if we don’t start taking skilled offensive players now we all always have the same weakness… sorry man, but i see the long term, and it looks a lot like the short term

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your reasoning assumes that the draft is Nashville’s sole source of talent. There are trades and free agency, too. Given the Preds’ proven success at developing goalies and defensemen, one could argue that they’re best off draft and developing prospects and using some of them to trade for proven offensive help from other organizations.

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by Dirk Hoag on Jun 25, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

not sole, but as close to being that as any other team in the league… how many players were starting for us in the playoffs that we drafted? it was somewhere around 15…. that’s out of 20, which includes our backup goalie

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

  When wasthe last time we used a Dman or goalie prospect in a trade for a scorer? Ryan Parent in the Floppa deal. That’s it. It’s great to fanaticize about making this futuristic trade for a skilled forward using our over-surplus of Dmen/goalie prospects, but it doesn’t happen.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 12:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Exactly!

  This organization is as tone deaf as any team in any league that I can remember. There’s no magic as to why our farm system lacks top end forwards and that’s because we don’t draft them to begin with.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 11:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, because Poile doesn’t have a good draft record at all.

Lemme quote the late, great Colonel Sanders. He said "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken."

by Chris Burton on Jun 25, 2011 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

  Don’t even start with me there, bud. Show me the offensive talent we’ve drafted in the past 7 or 8 drafts that’s making an imapct on our roster. Always easy to project stardom onto kids that haven’t played a minute in the NHL yet and proclaim them great draft picks.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 11:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hornqvist? Wilson? Suter? Weber?

All offensively impactful players who were drafted in the last 8 years.

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by Dirk Hoag on Jun 25, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

  I said offensive talent and you mention two Dmen and Wilson who couldn’t even crack the playoff roster. My point is validated.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 11:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

D-men contribute heavily to the team’s offense, Weber was just two points off the team lead.

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by Dirk Hoag on Jun 25, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

  Yes, he was two points from leading the team in offense…..and why? Because our forwards can’t score! If you want to be an apologist for everything this team does, go ahead, but that smoke isn’t getting blown up my chimney.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 11:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

sigh

I’m not an apologist for the team, but I’ll concede to their draft judgment when it comes to players whom none of us have seen play for any length of time.

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by Dirk Hoag on Jun 25, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

  One only need look at our forwards in our developmental system and it’s widely acknowledged that it is severly lacking in high end forwards. There were a number of those still on the board at both #38 and #52 and instead we took a goalie and a mucker/grinder forward. It’s a bad draft, plain and simple.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 12:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Weber’s shot from point is one of the best offensive weapons we have. OT winner vs Boston, Game tying shot vs Anaheim in the playoffs to send it to OT and many more cannon shots this season.

by Shadow23 on Jun 25, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rads

while he was playing here

by Shadow23 on Jun 25, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

i doubt there’s a trade here… do we really ever make draft day deals? a bad pick IMO… and trading Rinne for Parise is AWFUL! did Parise come in 4th in the MVP voting? no… but Rinne did

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Parise barely played, because he was recovering from injury.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

you’re right, but still…. a terrible trade, wouldn’t you agree?

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you look at your way then yes. But I’m looking at the bigger picture, and it’s a fair trade at worst.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just think we could get more value for a Vezina and Hart candidate than Parise…. a lot more

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

we can’t let a team take advantage of us in a trade just because we sorely need the offensive help

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

  Parise is one of the top forwards in the league, it would be a great trade for us espacially considering that we not be able to re-sign the UFA Rinne after this season. But it will never happen, so it’s a mute point.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 12:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

define “top”…. he’s good…. but “top”…. sorry, i don’t think so

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

  Great numbers on a very defensive oriented team. He’s a top 10 forward in this league.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 12:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

why not though?

We need forwards plain and simple. We have deep pipe lines for defenseman and goalies but we have no true offensive power. He doesn’t even have to be a star, just someone who can score OVER 50 POINTS in a season. sigh.

I live in the OC.
The one in OH.

by MattBen on Jun 25, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

see this stinks of desperation and that’s the number one way to get taken advantage of in a trade

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

what would you suggest than?

I wouldn’t argue with the idea that I’m desperate. I know I don’t necessarily need to be, but I personally think that a top forward is what will help us get over hump. Do you disagree with the idea that the offense is our weakest component?

I live in the OC.
The one in OH.

by MattBen on Jun 25, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

trading Rinne for anything less than one of the top 10 forwards in the world is a bad trade

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

A thread from the HFBoards on Hellberg...

Looks like he got picked at about the right spot.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Oops…http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=868693

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

why not Saad there?

scratching my head as always when we draft

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGps_qOPuTE

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just did turn if off. They stop to listen for LA’s pick among others, but not for all of the selections. Can’t hear it, so shutting ’er down.

by OddManRush on Jun 25, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shutting it down too. Just going to follow here and on twitter. Screw NHL Network

by Preds Fanatic on Jun 25, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

completely skipped our pick….

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

looks like a Finnish Hornqvist with a wrist shot

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what I was thinking too. Nice playmaking from the boards, but still not a big scorer.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not suprised

After our first glorious pick…..

by 901predfan on Jun 25, 2011 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

salomaki? luckily they showed the draft board while these guys talked about the last pick

by robjustice on Jun 25, 2011 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

MIikka Salomaki

7th ranked European skater…. and a forward!

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 11:38 AM EDT reply actions  

He's a defensive, two-way forward

Reports say his offensive skill set is limited. :(

"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster

by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jun 25, 2011 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

awesome…we’re really lacking in that department :-(

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i know… i was trying to be optimistic… lol

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

I know, I’m just cynical

"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster

by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jun 25, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

although i just watched a video someone posted here of him… some decent moves there and a nice shot…. and some nice wheels chasing down the puck

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

nhl.com’s draft tracker has Salomaki listed at 297 pounds… ha.

by addctd on Jun 25, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Sumo-maki!

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

just saw a video of a cheapshot by him

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

He didn’t hit him in the head…and what was the other player trying to do? Hide in the corner?

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

just a video I found… he seems to be in the ruutu mold

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, we are lacking some toughness right now. Maybe that’s the idea.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

The other player’s fault. Ever though Salomaki shouldn’t have raised up like he did and made it worse

by Preds Fanatic on Jun 25, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

was boarding at worst… not a cheap shot as much as a careless hit… if the guy wasnt facing the boards then it’s completely legal and a great hit

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nikita Filatov traded from Columbus to Ottawa for their 3rd rounder. What a disaster that situation was.

by OddManRush on Jun 25, 2011 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m surprised it took them that long to unload him

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hitchcock being there seemed to sour the situation from the start.

by OddManRush on Jun 25, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also get a nice pic of the away jersey from the side.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

From that angle, the jersey looks pretty good, I think.

by OddManRush on Jun 25, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Poile has something big up his sleeve for a trade or free agency, because as of right now it does not look good.

by predsfan95 on Jun 25, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

yep and don’t forget the shake up that happens in the next few days trying to get everybody signed before July 1

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

From the Preds twitter:
PredsNHL Nashville Predators
#Preds Scouts: Salomaki can play on all 4 lines in all situations – very good all-around player. Has offensive ability with a mean streak.

Sounds more like a Tootoo.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

from the youtube video he has better stick-handling than Toots and a better wrister

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here, he's compared to Ruutu as well (gj, Predator119)

http://predators.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=1295

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

what happened at the number 8 pick in the third round? NHL.com is showing that there was no pick

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

NHL took it from the Devils because of the 17 year contract they tried to give to Kovy to keep his cap number low.

by addctd on Jun 25, 2011 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

ooook…. thanks

<=B

by 'foot on Jun 25, 2011 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

It seems like to me the Preds are somewhat scared to draft a pure scorer in the draft. I would be fine with this if we would trade for one or sign one in free agency but we don’t do that either.

by predsfan95 on Jun 25, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Who do we get now?

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Are we trading this pick?

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Show of hands..who cares about the son of the UMinnesota coach going to the Wild? Its nice, but 15 minutes of this?

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

As much as i cared about the Kings second round pick

"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster

by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jun 25, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the draft is in Minnesota. I guess they care. (I’m from there and I don’t.)

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drafting goalies and gritty two-way forwards is boring, but Poile has always put defense and work ethic ahead of splashy offense. Disappointing? Perhaps, but the Preds have been one of the best teams in the league for the past 5 years for a reason.

Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life

by TNBrando on Jun 25, 2011 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

  It’ also why we consistantly have a bad offense and just squeeze into the playoffs by a few points. Fact is, we place almost zero emphasis on goal scoring and it’s a major problem.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 12:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yep, we just traded down.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

From 303:

#Preds has traded the #82 pick to the #LAKings for the #170 pick and a 2012 pick. #NHLDraft

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

3rd rounder next year then

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Toronto’s 3rd rounder.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the Kings selected Nick Shore with it

"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster

by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jun 25, 2011 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

And...

Now I want some HD glasses

"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster

by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jun 25, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Only $10! And you get a second pair for free (plus S&H)!! But what really sold me is the couple wearing them, smiling and looking away into the distance while standing in front of their fighter jet.

"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster

by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jun 25, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s our next pick?

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

yay…twitter says were on the clock

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

We just picked! Josh Shalla from the OHL

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

a LW!

hey…points .. 65 in 68gp

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, some promise there!

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

72 points last year: 47G 25A, in 68 games.

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/roster/show/id/313

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Durability and Hands

all he needs is skating and he’ll bulk up more I would imagine

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Josh is a goal scorer with size and vision. He wins battles on the boards and does a great job using his body to protect the puck. He can be a finesse player or a hard nosed player, whatever the situations requires. He often makes extraordinary passes and finishes with highlight goals.

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

From twitter:

Preds with a surprise pick in Josh Shalla. Skating is horrendous, but if he ever works it out he’s got an outstanding shot. Could score lots

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big body, though

6’1", 194 is a lot of weight to throw around for a winger.

by MekootLobo on Jun 25, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

the OHL website says 6.02" (lol .02) and 203. That’s a big guy.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

  If your skating is horrendous at age 18, you’ve got a real hurdle ahead of you.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 12:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

true,but look what he’s doing in spite of his horrendous skating

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

  You can get by at the Junior/College level with weak skating ability playing against kids younger than you are, but not at the AHL level, let alone the NHL level.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 12:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

His skating looks ok to me, plenty of speed if not a figure skater ;) Looks like he wants to fight to prove himself. Poile and Trotz probably liked that.

http://www.saginawspirit.com/video/index/id/831a435a624494b7b31a9b2fb4a0c73f

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats what was said about taylor beck too. we’re going to find out if he can make it in the ahl next season

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW, Shalla was picked with the Santorelli pick.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

passed over last year

Passed over in the 2010 NHL draft, he produced 47 goals and 72 points for the Spirit in 2010-11. As a result, he was named to the 2011 OHL Third All-Star Team… has a lot of rambunctiousness in his game, and projects as an agitator at the highest level… must get stronger to play his pesky game as a pro…

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

pick #112 - Garrett Noonan - D - Boston University

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Tallied 27 points (6g, 21a) last season with the Vernon Vipers of the BCHL to help them capture their second consecutive RBC Cup title … Former standout and co-captain at Catholic Memorial High School, where he posted 34 points (12g, 22a) in 30 contests during the 2008-09 season … Was named the co-MVP of the Catholic Conference in 2009 after helping Catholic Memorial win the Massachusetts Super 8 Championship … 2009 Boston Globe All-Scholastic honoree.

by MekootLobo on Jun 25, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

More solid D for us.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

  Can never have enough of them………. :p
 

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 1:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ambroz went to CBJ with the 128th pick.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

NSH - Simon Karlsson - D from Sweden

"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster

by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jun 25, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

eliteprospects.com

""A very smart defenseman with good hockey sense and solid puck skills. Contributes both ways. Decent mobility."

Only 17, seems like he has some good upside.

"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster

by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jun 25, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Problem

It’s great to draft these D and G, but if you aren’t going to trade them for offense, its ridiculous. The complaint is always that O is too expensive or not available, but if Poile isn’t going to draft them, they will be expensive. We will be like this forever

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

  100% correct.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 1:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

  Maybe the most disturbing thing about this is that it’s the third draft in a row where we did not make even one move to move up in the draft in the 1st or 2nd rounds or trade for a current NHL player. To watch Florida snatch up Grimaldi (Tallon does it again) and the Wings grab Jurco just a few spots ahead of us is extremely disappointing.

  Looks like I was right about us not wanting Russian players. Khokhlachev was right there for the taking at #38 and we passed him by.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 1:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Stupid Radulophobia. They did try to move up in the first though.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it keeps us from being totally screwed again, I’m all for it.

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

  Not so sure it was as much us trying to move up as it was another team wanting one of our young players in exchange for that pick. This has been the most depressing draft ever.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yep. I hope Free agency is better. Poile sure has a hellish summer ahead. Weber contract, SK74, Goc ?, OB?, what to do about J.P. , Lombardi(if there is something we can do), is sully back at 1 mil per season?(hope not)

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

theres no point in watching the draft. you can’t even hear the picks in the background now

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, no ticker really either, have to use NHL.com

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

#170: Chase Balisy - California - C

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

small center who kind of scores

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Poile traded #172 for NYR's next year 6th rounder.

I guess he’s stocking up.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

are we done? or we have a 7th?

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

says on nhl we have pick #202 n the 7th

by robjustice on Jun 25, 2011 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

  We’re the only team that makes its best picks in the 7th round………

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 1:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

who knows, this next pick could score 30 goals some day….

by robjustice on Jun 25, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

and then disappear for the the following season

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn right.

Regarding going 0-4 in the NHL Awards, I quote the great Hornqvist: "S**t's gonna happen."

by DonBorvio on Jun 25, 2011 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

And for those who say 2nd rounders are 3 to 4 year projects......

  Derek Stepan was drafted late in the 2nd round by the Rangers and only took one year to make a big impact on their roster. O’Reilly’s brother was a 2nd rounder as well and stepped right into the NHL. We need better picks, not excuses.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 2:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

perhaps

They were in stronger draft classes. This one wasn’t considered particularly strong, right?

I live in the OC.
The one in OH.

by MattBen on Jun 25, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

  True, but it’s also why you have to be agressive in moving up in a weaker draft. Still, there were some skilled kids left at #38 and we passed up on them. But my main point is that this 3 to 4 year talk for a 2nd rounder developing into an NHL talent isn’t that cut and dry.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yeah okay

fair enough but same can be said for first rounders. Some start out right away and fade while others wait and do really well. I agree though that it shouldn’t be generalized like it is.

I live in the OC.
The one in OH.

by MattBen on Jun 25, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think Ryan O’Reilly was a third rounder

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

  Nope, the Avs picked him just ahead of both Budish and Roussell.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 2:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

regard all Poile draft picks as 3 to 4 years away

it is just the way he operates. players like WIlson and Legwand are the anomalies and even they were still 1 year projects. Poile has never drafted anyone to attempt to fill an immediate need but one he believes the team will have in a few years.

Keys to the game: GF>GA

by flyalder on Jun 25, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

  Even if that’s the case, did not any of the forwards still on the board at #38 meet that criteria? Our prospect system lacks high end forwards, if you don’t draft them at some point, you’ll continue to have that problem.

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 7:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Brent Andrews

Shoots: Left
Height: 6’ 2" Weight: 200
Born: January 19, 1993
Born in: Hunter River, PE, CAN
(7th Round / 202nd Overall)

by robjustice on Jun 25, 2011 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Halifax of the QMJHL
68 gp 29pts 33pim

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoa

our 5th rounder.. the swedish defenseman Karlsson grew 4 inches from 5’11 to 6’3 in the last year. Compared by a swedish scout to Franson

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

from the preds:

The Preds wrapped up their 2011 draft with three picks — one defenseman and two forwards — and a trade during the final three rounds of the draft.

In the fifth round the Preds selected Swedish defenseman Simon Karlsson. The Preds European scouts have a knack for unearthing hidden gems in the later rounds. Karlsson went through a major growth spurt over the last 12 months, growing from around 5-11 to 6-3. Swedish scout Lucas Bergman compares his game to current Preds defenseman Cody Franson and as he grows into his now 6-3 frame, Bergman thinks Karlsson can become a special player.

In the sixth round the Preds tabbed U.S. forward Chasen Balisy from Western Michigan University. Balisy’s Jeff Blashill said, “Chase has an elite mind for the game. I think his hockey smarts and his hockey IQ are outstanding. I thought that he had gotten stronger and quicker over the course of the season. That added strength and quickness allowed Chase to be a real elite freshman. And I think as he continues to add that strength and quickness, it will allow him to be an elite player in college and have a great chance at becoming an NHL player.”

The Preds traded their second sixth round pick to the NY Rangers for a 2012 sixth rounder. And then in the seventh round, Nashville selected 6-2, 200-pound forward Brent Andrews of the QMJHL. Regarded as one of the QMJHL’s best faceoff aces and toughest defensive centers, Andrews turned heads with his solid two-way performances for Team Canada at the World Under-18 Championships. He was on a below average Halifax team, so his stats are not indicative of the on-ice level he provided for the Mooseheads.

Check back later today for more recap and reaction from the draft floor.

by Predator119 on Jun 25, 2011 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

As happy as I am for the kids who got picked today......

  This was the most depressing draft I think I have ever experienced. If I honestly thought we were going to make some splash in the trade or UFA market, it would temper that disappointment, but let’s face it, there’s a slim chance that will happen based on past experience.

  A goalie at #38………..wow. :/

by Grizzledbear on Jun 25, 2011 2:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

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