Saturday notes: Staring into an information abyss
by Dirk Hoag on Jul 16, 2011 8:48 AM EDT
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PrintYou know what struck me this morning when putting together the daily hockey notes? In the absence of solid information, people tend to fill in the void with all manners of fears and doubts, usually portending horrible outcomes. That's the case whether we're talking about fans who wonder how the Predators are going to take the step from competitor to contender, or professional hockey writers who look ahead to upcoming CBA negotiations.
In both cases, folks on the outside have little idea what's actually happening, so the mind takes off on its own. That's not necessarily such a bad thing, though, right? Or are hockey fans just supposed to tune out for a couple months until training camp opens?
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It’s the needed counter-balance to the pie in the sky contingent here wearing rose colored glasses. :)
Trotz says "we don't need more offense" and Poile "likes where we are right now". We're doomed!!!
by Grizzledbear on Jul 16, 2011 11:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
we are one leggy-bash away from……well a pretty typical thread lol
by Christopher Seth Rhine on Jul 16, 2011 10:01 AM EDT reply actions
I'm in, for an authentic sweater.........
…..with sewn-on numbers and name…..fighting strap…….the only way to go.
I really wish that there was a “public option” to invest in the Preds……like a 10% stake, owned by smaller investors and “public stock”.
Aren’t the Green Bay Packers, and a few other teams, set-up with whole/partial public ownership options ?
Whenever I buy a big PowerBall ticket, I dream of owning a small share……..
It would be nice if public shares could be purchased in $1,000 increments.
As an original, first-day, season ticket holder, I’ve already helped the city with their arena and helped to build a good hockey team, here………..TENS of thousands worth, so far…….but I’d like my investment to become a bit more “official”.
Oh, that I could win a billion dollars and buy the team………..there’d be some changes a ’comin round these parts, bawahahahahah!!!
The gold jersey’s would be the shortest lived sweater in sports history………but if you own one, it would be quite a collector’s item. :)
CAustin would need medical attention if she found out Gbear was calling the shots, LOL! :D
Trotz says "we don't need more offense" and Poile "likes where we are right now". We're doomed!!!
by Grizzledbear on Jul 16, 2011 11:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just get Stamkos...
She’d forgive you. :D
by HardCorePredFan316 on Jul 16, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Not if I traded Rinne for him, LOL!
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by Grizzledbear on Jul 16, 2011 12:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Great Googley-Moogley!
Someone get the smelling salts!
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
Ok that made me laugh. Best subject line ever.
by el pucko on Jul 16, 2011 10:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Remember...
you are a billionaire and that means we could actually spend to the cap. Hell go after everybody, make stupid moves, what would you know…you’re the Mark Cuban of the NHL.
Fines are expensive, but telling the ref what it is…priceless.
by HardCorePredFan316 on Jul 16, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m imagining this scenario playing out……
“Hey, Shea, I just offer sheeted Parise and Lou L. can’t match it, ready to re-sign now?”. :)
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by Grizzledbear on Jul 16, 2011 1:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
P.S.
I know Parise can’t be offer sheeted now, but it’s the billionaire sports team owner fantasy at play here. :)
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by Grizzledbear on Jul 16, 2011 2:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And I would suspect that there may be a beer next to your chair as well.
But since you are a billionaire and all, can you invest in developing that time machine we’ve all been wanting so we can bring The Great One to Nashville?
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
Meh, only on rare occasions do I partake of libations, maybe some sweet tea instead. :)
I’m getting Lemieux first in the time machine…….bring back old Penguin memories. :) Then I’ll add Grtezky. :)
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by Grizzledbear on Jul 16, 2011 4:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m cool with that. I’m just wondering now how far to go with the All-Time-Machine Team.
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
This?
Gold jerseys: Haters gonna hate.
by DonBorvio on Jul 16, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Yes please.
"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster
by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jul 16, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope, my time machine will have us pick Zajac instead of Rads in 2004……….at least we’d have a decent player here and not overseas. :/
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by Grizzledbear on Jul 16, 2011 7:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Quick time-machine question
Do we go back to change decisions made by the Preds or do we go back to hijack (time-jack?) players we’d never have had a chance at at all?
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
Either one
As long as it makes us better and allows Bill and Ted to learn history so they’ll pass their final.
"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster
by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jul 16, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I say both………and when you’re a billionaire, you can have both! :D
I’m paying whoever that Rangers scout who keeps making those great 2nd thru 4th round picks whatever he wants to come here too. :)
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by Grizzledbear on Jul 16, 2011 7:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My guess is they’ll be the replicas. Not bad. But the keys are a cool detail. They’ll play with that more in their alternate jersey when they roll that out in a few years. We’ll probably see the guitar pick. And the return of the blue. … Some.cool detail on the new uniforms. Can live the gold i guess. Branding thing. They’re trying to.own something. Hated them at first. Growing on me. … Sorry this is an old thread isn’t it. Ok, so about Leggy …
by el pucko on Jul 16, 2011 12:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Nikolai Zherdev
Anyone heard any news on his front? I still think he’d be a cheap scoring option that the Preds should test out.
Last I’ve heard is from http://hockeyyinsiderr.com/?p=140 :
Says that NSH and CGY are looking into him.
"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster
by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jul 16, 2011 12:32 PM EDT reply actions
If from what a Flyers fan (Eric T) posted here a few weeks ago is true, Zherdev is more likely to head back to the KHL than sign a low dollar contract to stay in the NHL. But you never know.
The Flames are now right up against the cap, was a day I would have made a play for Hagman but not sure what he has left in the tank these days. Devils need to shed a bit of salary too now if their #1 pick in the draft, Larsson, makes the team and still be able to re-sign Parise. Probably bury someone in the minors if they have to.
If worse comes to worse, it would be nice if we could at least possibly send Lebda off in return for someone like Hecht or even Hagman. Would free up some cap space for those teams and get us a usable forward for a relatively low net cost in return. Definately a plan B option.
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by Grizzledbear on Jul 16, 2011 12:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sending Lebda for one of those two forwards would be a steal. But, between a chocolate cupcake and Lebda, I think the cupcake would have more trade value.
As for Zherdev, that wouldn’t surprise me. However, it could still happen.
"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster
by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jul 16, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Careful...
every time I suggest Zherdev, I get the “head case, never play for Trotz” argument and that he would never fit into our system.
Goal scoring is goal scoring and we need it, so I approve bringing in Zherdev, putting him on a line with Kostitsyn, and letting them light the lamp with either O’Reilly or Wilson centering them.
by HardCorePredFan316 on Jul 16, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d say O’Reilly over Wilson in this instance. They’ll need more of a playmaking center, which O’Reilly is clearly the better of the two. Plus Wilson can play wing, which, with our logjam at center, would be preferable.
"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster
by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jul 16, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
Love the Onion. Best sports reporting in the biz!
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
Love the sportsdome, are they coming back?
"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster
by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jul 16, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
the new Jerseys
the NHL pro shop is now selling both the home and away of the new jersery with an October 1st delivery date for blank and personalized. I am a bit concerned because of the price point it is not obviously an authentic jersey, however I was told in this blog (I believe) that the piano keys (on the inside collar) would only be available on an authentic jersey and it is obvious in the animation that the piano keys are on this jersey. It is a small point. If I wanted the piano keys and shelled out for the authentic believing that it was the only way to get them I would be mad. Also if I saw this animation and believe it to be true and took the cheaper way out and did not get what I saw I would be just as angry. So I will wait until after Christmas to see how this shakes out before making decision on owning a new Jersey.
Why not contact customer service at shop.nhl.com and ask that question? The bit about piano keys not being on the replicas came from Executive VP Chris Parker.
It would be good to get clarification on points like that..
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by Dirk Hoag on Jul 16, 2011 2:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m interviewing Sean, Jeff and Chris Tuesday. I’ll ask.
"I like JR’s style, kinda reminds me of HST without all the drugs and mayhem" -DonBorvio
Gocschmerz
OtF Resident Rascal
by JRTheByLineGrinder on Jul 16, 2011 4:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Envious….BTW great article on the USA/Mexico game and converting the fairgrounds into a soccer stadium to lure MLS to Nashville. Great idea except it makes too much sense, hence Govt. won’t touch it. ;)
by HardCorePredFan316 on Jul 16, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Problem with converting it
have been to the fairgrounds? not really the kind of place you want to drive through. Plus I think it would be much better to put it downtown somewhere say oh i dont know the old power plant. But then again makes sense so why do that.
Not for nothing
But 20 years, Lower Broad (and the East Bank for that matter were not places anybody wanted to go either.
"I like JR’s style, kinda reminds me of HST without all the drugs and mayhem" -DonBorvio
Gocschmerz
OtF Resident Rascal
by JRTheByLineGrinder on Jul 17, 2011 10:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
why convert the fairgrounds to a soccer stadium when we have LP field going unused during the summer?
MLS requires (for the most part) soccer-specific stadiums. They understand they are only going to draw 20-30K, so sharing stadia with NFL teams is a bad visual. 30K is a good number, but in a 68K stadium, it’s bad TV.
The only exception was Seattle, but that team pre-sold something like 40K season tix.
"I like JR’s style, kinda reminds me of HST without all the drugs and mayhem" -DonBorvio
Gocschmerz
OtF Resident Rascal
by JRTheByLineGrinder on Jul 17, 2011 10:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m all for renovating the fairgrounds (as it’s very close to my home), but I dont think I want my tax $$ going to build a soccer stadium. Maybe take the land and privately fund a soccer stadium. And they can build a new baseball stadium right next door. Now that I’d go for.
That’s similar what happened in KC for their new soccer stadium. City took the land and backed the bonds for the developer, who is required to generate a certain number of jobs and attract a certain number of tenants per year to the Class A office park and mixed-use development which surrounds the stadium itself.
Pretty ingenious concept
"I like JR’s style, kinda reminds me of HST without all the drugs and mayhem" -DonBorvio
Gocschmerz
OtF Resident Rascal
by JRTheByLineGrinder on Jul 17, 2011 3:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If the developer doesn’t hit those benchmarks, the city calls the bonds and the developer has to pony the value and the interest
"I like JR’s style, kinda reminds me of HST without all the drugs and mayhem" -DonBorvio
Gocschmerz
OtF Resident Rascal
by JRTheByLineGrinder on Jul 17, 2011 3:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
GREAT IDEA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m definitely interested in a combination soccer/baseball complex……….same parking lot, with different stadiums………and the Fairgrounds location would be perfect……easyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy access to major arteries and I-65……..LOTS of areas that can be improved to offer restaurants and other activities/services.
I definitely would REQUIRE it to be built and MAINTAINED by private interests, though
Lots of interviews for a documentary in Locker Room 2 that day, too. Drop by.
by Hockey Hillbilly on Jul 16, 2011 5:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Ok I took the time and asked the question of Shop.nhl.com. I will submit the response to the this site when and if I get any.
Awesome!
Thank you, I was about to do the same since I want to order a jersey asap, but would rather save up (quite) a few more bucks and get the whole package (while also waiting to see whether Weber signs a long term contract haha)
"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster
by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jul 16, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I got a response from the Pro Shop. I forwarded the text to Dirk and basically they do not have a clue about the piano keys and will look into it and get back to me.
Ahh ok, provide an update when you can please! And thanks again!
"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster
by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jul 17, 2011 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
i noticed that as well...
but don’t expect customer service at shop.nhl.com to know anything. i’ve had terrible luck with them. especially in discussing the differences in “in stock” and “back order”…….
TN Sports fan in Hoosier Country....
Lebda
Is he really that bad? I remember him playing for the Wings – he won the cup with them. And his numbers seemed decent. Played 13-16 min per game.
I see a lot of negative comments from the fans in Toronto. Let’s be honest, every move he makes in Toronto will get scrutinized under the microscope. Plus the Leafs were awful mediocre last year.
Just wondering if Lebda could eat up some minutes on the 3rd pairing while the kids develop.
Dunno
He’s his stats:
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=55640
If he were that bad, seems the Wings would have left him on the bench more.
I do remember back in the mid 90’s when the Leafs signed Larry Murphy as a UFA from the Pens and they booed him right out of town…….and then he went on to be a key part of a few Wings Cup winning teams. Leafs fans not the best barometer of player evalutions.
Then again, Lebda is no Murphy either. Or O’Brien. Or Franson. De Vries maybe? :D
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by Grizzledbear on Jul 16, 2011 7:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So, does he play here or not?
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
My completely uneducated assessment is Trotz tries to coach him up and at least let him be the last D man on the bench.
In other words, he’ll be traded next week.
Judging by the Leafs articles...
we can only hope that’s what happens.
"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster
by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jul 16, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t imagine Lebda being played over Josi, Ellis, Ekholm. Yeah, Lebda has experience…experience at sucking. Dude’s shorter than Ryan Ellis, and gets his stick stuck in the glass:
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=0&id=100988
And allows Goc to score on a breakaway by falling over:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI23sYP08zw
Gold jerseys: Haters gonna hate.
Dang! I laughed until I remembered he’s on our roster now.
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
Ugh.
Me too.
Good thing I already like Klein, because the rest of you are about to completely forget every mistake he’s ever made once Lebda steps on the ice…
Gonna miss you Joel Ward...
Go Predmirals!
This is the most frightening post I've read yet.
Every time I step up in the building, everybody's hands go UP..... AND THEY STAY THERE.
-nashvillepredators-
Goc play is funny, until you remember that we don’t have Goc, and we DO have Lebda. If he does play… maybe we’ll start doing a promotion that other teams do and give away a stick after the game…. if we do, Lebda should give his away through the glass, instead of over it. Now then, I’d enjoy him a bit because he’d at least have a sense of humor.
Maybe he starts out as the #7 guy if we can’t get rid of him. Short of that, watch Poile sell him as being a really good acquisition who just needed a change of scenery. :/
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by Grizzledbear on Jul 16, 2011 8:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe he could take over the J P Dumont Memorial Time-out Chair?
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
Out of all the open positions to fill, DP filled Dumont’s spot. :/
If we start opening day with Lebda on the roster, that will be quite a fail on DP’s part. Even if it’s just swapping him for a Hecht type player, we’ve got to move him out of here.
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by Grizzledbear on Jul 16, 2011 8:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Somehow the Devils got a 5th round pick for that LeBlond guy from Calgary, so anything is possible. But it’ll probably have to be a “sure, we’ll help you get under the cap…..but you gotta take Lebda in return” situation.
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by Grizzledbear on Jul 16, 2011 9:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's because LeBlond actually has a purpose when he's on the ice
What happens on the ice...stays on the ice...
How bad is Brett Lebda? The Leafs beat the Thrashers 9-3 this year. In that game, Lebda was a -3.
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by Marc Torrence on Jul 16, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Talk about your small sample size
Just saying. Don’t know how good or bad he is otherwise.
The truth is neither libelous nor slanderous.
Reason and logic instead of hope and faith.
by shoot the puck on Jul 17, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, there was a forward that was -2 as well.
Not saying that your wrong, though, because that is a scary, scary number. Maybe he was just having a bad game…
Every time I step up in the building, everybody's hands go UP..... AND THEY STAY THERE.
-nashvillepredators-
Just how was it that none of the Leafs were more than +2… was anyone playing defense in this game? And none of the Thrashers were more lower than -2…
by musamonster on Jul 18, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, he is that bad.
An offensive defenseman is fine in theory for not being very good defensively, but it’s absolutely ridiculous when he doesn’t do offense very well either.
The guy has SOME raw hockey skill, to be sure and maybe he’d be a fit in Nashville, but I just don’t see that happening.
by J.J. from Kansas on Jul 18, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
How did the new Tim McGraw video sound?
I wasn’t able to make the Skate of the Union sadly. How did the new Tim M. video play? I assume this will be the new one? Did it sound as good as the one we have listened to for so many years?
Pretty much, just showed him wearing the new jersey (which had the little “nashville” on the left side still but the ones the players wore do that.
Gold jerseys: Haters gonna hate.
Shea Weber...
…is no longer on TSN’s arbitration list.
He was listed for August 2nd. Is something happening?
What happens on the ice...stays on the ice...
IF something had happened...
Wouldn’t he show up like Kostitsyn with the star by his name as a player that signed before the arbitration date? That is weird, I will give you that.
For everyone else,
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=46931
by Preds of State on Jul 17, 2011 12:22 PM EDT reply actions
I know eh?
It’s not like TSN to forget about Shea either. He’s at the center of every rumor mill story they have about how the best Canadian defensemen in the land should sign north of the border.
What happens on the ice...stays on the ice...
by BrianAdsFan on Jul 17, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I may be showing my ignorance,
but I hadn’t looked at this list previously. Was he there before?
by Preds of State on Jul 17, 2011 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I could have swore he was...
as the NHL had a simular list posted…
I mean c’mon…He’s Shea freakin Weber!!!!
What happens on the ice...stays on the ice...
by BrianAdsFan on Jul 17, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He isn't on this list either... What the hell?
by Preds of State on Jul 17, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Because that list is from 2010.
"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster
by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jul 17, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
hahah
It happens, Niemi’s name gave me a hint.
"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster
by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jul 17, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He's now not on the 2011 list either...
http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=69928&navid=mod-rr-headlines
Gold jerseys: Haters gonna hate.
i looked all over the internet and no else is saying anything about Shea Weber at all I bet it is just a error of some kind because it does not make sense any other way.
Agreed
Shea is definitely on the NHLPA’s arbitration hearing list. I expect there’s some kind of clerical error.
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
Sorry :)
I would really have loved to get that announcement myself.
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
it would be nice
That, and that negotiations with Parise have broken down and he has accepted a deal to come to Nashville :)
by Preds of State on Jul 17, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, I'll keep dreaming
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by Preds of State on Jul 17, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Would someone just send Taylor Swift over to NJ and sweep Parise off his feet already……..it’s the proven method to get scoring talent over here! :D
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by Grizzledbear on Jul 17, 2011 3:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I can agree to that
if you can keep her from writing another crappy song about it.
by Preds of State on Jul 17, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You never know, the fireworks between them could inspire another “Stand By Our Man” classic! :D
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by Grizzledbear on Jul 17, 2011 4:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yea...
But it would probably be about teenage angst or something. Haha.
by Preds of State on Jul 17, 2011 4:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Y’all got to stop pimpin’ the girls out for hockey contracts. First SWfP and now you. Seriously. It’s not nearly as flattering as it may seem.
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
Someone forgot to take their good humor pills today. :p
I’m talking about marriage here between Taylor and Zach, not some short term fling……..it’s a win/win situation. :)
Trotz says "we don't need more offense" and Poile "likes where we are right now". We're doomed!!!
by Grizzledbear on Jul 17, 2011 5:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh… well… in that case….(rolls eyes) :P
And don’t you mean win/win/win (her, him, and us)?
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
Once Taylor and Zach tie the knot, they’ll be one, united in Holy matrimony……..so win/win stands as it is. ;D
And we wouldn’t have made the playoffs without Fisher, which bewilders me how some seem to think we’re just fine and dandy with the team we’ve got here. It’s a much more desperate situation than some seem to think it is right now.
Trotz says "we don't need more offense" and Poile "likes where we are right now". We're doomed!!!
by Grizzledbear on Jul 17, 2011 7:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
which must be why you’ve resorted to arranging marriages. :)
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
If GMDP won’t get Parise here the traditional way, then I have to resort to covert tactics! :D
Trotz says "we don't need more offense" and Poile "likes where we are right now". We're doomed!!!
by Grizzledbear on Jul 17, 2011 7:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like Fish. He did pretty good for being as hurt as he apparently was, and I expect him to do better this season, even if he doesn’t light up the Western Conference. That’s not his game anyway.
and I mean the word “expect” both ways—a prediction and a standard of judgment.
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
I think win win makes sense
Win for Taylor, win for us. But poor Zach has to marry Taylor Swift. Shudders
I'll marry Taylor Swift....
…. if that means I get to coach the power play.
………if you want to call Fisher scoring talent.
The truth is neither libelous nor slanderous.
Reason and logic instead of hope and faith.
by shoot the puck on Jul 17, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Say what you want about the fish man
But no way we get in the playoffs last year without him.
by Preds of State on Jul 17, 2011 5:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, at less than half a point per game he fit right in.
The truth is neither libelous nor slanderous.
Reason and logic instead of hope and faith.
by shoot the puck on Jul 17, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
He was playing injured. He’ll be one of the top scorers with a full, healthy season.
Gold jerseys: Haters gonna hate.
I have faith he’ll be a good solid guy for us next season, now that he’s gotten the shoulder fixed.
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
He was so good that Ottawa dumped his salary for some draft picks.
The truth is neither libelous nor slanderous.
Reason and logic instead of hope and faith.
by shoot the puck on Jul 17, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not saying he’s a Stamkos. I’m saying he’s a good solid guy, who makes a lot of contributions, some of which go beyond goals and assists. And come on, it’s Ottawa. they’re “rebuilding”—and DonBorvio just posted the same thing I was typing.
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
Sugarcoat it all you want, it was a salary dump for draft picks. He played worse for Ottawa than he did here. If he turns out to be better than he has shown thus far I’m all for it. Believe it when I see it.
The truth is neither libelous nor slanderous.
Reason and logic instead of hope and faith.
by shoot the puck on Jul 17, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You also have to think about how many games we won by 1 point and how close the playoff race was. Without extra offense that doesn’t happen.
by Preds of State on Jul 17, 2011 7:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I worded that poorly. I should have said “his own personal goals and assist stats.”
And I think he’s a good guy for the team, who has the potential to do more this year than he did last year. I’m really confused as to why this is a controversial statement.
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
I really doubt this is a clerical error…on multiple sites(NHL.com, TSN.ca)…that had his name up earlier!
Gold jerseys: Haters gonna hate.
Wake up Don, you're dreaming! ;)
Can you provide links to sites other than the TSN list? I have only found the original NHL.com article on the hearings, not an updated one, and of course Shea was named there. He is still on the NHLPA list, which is supposedly updated as players sign.
The thing is that Twitter is absolutely silent on this. When has every single reporter on Twitter been out of the loop on anything?
In other words, as much as I’d like to think our nightmare is over, I’ll believe it only when an announcement is made.
"Its a process"--Erlendsson
Don't Trade Pekka
Part Predator, part Lightning.
There’s just this news posting, which is just static(they aren’t updating it): http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=568901.
Gold jerseys: Haters gonna hate.
Also...
He is still on the NHLPA list, which is supposedly updated as players sign.
Look at that list again. It doesn’t get updated like you think:
Kostitsyn, Sergei – NASH – July 26, 2011
Gold jerseys: Haters gonna hate.
On another note...
While looking on the NHLPA website for the arbitration list, I saw that Klein is the player of the week.
http://www.nhlpa.com/News/Player-Of-The-Week/
"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster
by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jul 17, 2011 6:55 PM EDT reply actions
Also
•Kevin took part in the NHLPA Charity Golf Classic on Monday in Milton, Ontario where he joined his fellow members in helping raise close to $100,000 for the Players Helping Players Fund. It was also a great day for Kevin personally, as he took home the overall Players championship honour, carding an impressive round of 4-under par, 68
A -4 is impressive, yet also ironic since he is a -4 over the past 2 seasons. (-13 and +9)
"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster
by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jul 17, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s Lebda’s score for just one round, LOL!
Trotz says "we don't need more offense" and Poile "likes where we are right now". We're doomed!!!
by Grizzledbear on Jul 17, 2011 8:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Actually, Lebs would likely be way over par if his golf game mirrored his hockey game. :)
Trotz says "we don't need more offense" and Poile "likes where we are right now". We're doomed!!!
by Grizzledbear on Jul 17, 2011 8:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It worked for Happy Gillmore
by Preds of State on Jul 17, 2011 7:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm all for sending him that way to see what happens!
Every time I step up in the building, everybody's hands go UP..... AND THEY STAY THERE.
-nashvillepredators-
Avs got O'Brien for 1.1M?
Just saw that on nhlnumbers.com. A shame we couldn’t have brought him back at that number, surprised that’s all he got on the open market.
And Lebda makes 1.4M? Madness, sheer madness!!!
Trotz says "we don't need more offense" and Poile "likes where we are right now". We're doomed!!!
by Grizzledbear on Jul 18, 2011 1:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
And Bryzgalov got 9 years, 51mil, while Vokoun got 1 year, 1.5mil. That’s the NHL for ya!
"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster
by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jul 18, 2011 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
On another note...
I’ve been contemplating this over the past few days, but keep forgetting to post it. Is there a possibility of a Blum/Josi line when Josi comes to the Preds? I know they are best friends and had great success as a top pairing in Milwaukee. With their chemistry (although not proven at the NHL-level), do you think they stick them together to continue to build off that chemistry? It could be too risky to put two rookies out there on the ice at the same time, but after watching them play, I think they could do it and it could turn into a great, young, high-energy 2nd defensive pairing.
As for Klein, maybe move him to the 3rd line and stick him with Boullion, Ellis, Laakso, or Ekholm. I’m not a Klein hater, I just have a lot of (blind) faith in our youngsters!
"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster
by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Jul 18, 2011 1:58 AM EDT reply actions
there are a lot of ifs there
but I think it could work out IF the two work as well at the NHL level as they did in the AHL. Blum came out of Milwaukee and really surprised me this past season, so if we have another one of him that works well with Blum, I’m all for it.
by Preds of State on Jul 18, 2011 3:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I just want to point out
That this post was originally about how in the absence of information people think the worst, but we are all thinking in the back of our heads that Weber isn’t on this list because he got signed.
….
even though we know he didn’t yet :(
Still, I think it is funny how we are doing the opposite of the point of this post.
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