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Thursday's notes: Preds to move beyond 17,113

It looks like they're going to have to change the sign... (photo via Paul Nicholson on Flickr)

For years, the familiar number "17,113" has been associated with a sellout at Nashville Predators games, but once some work gets done this summer, Bridgestone Arena will be able to fit a few more hockey diehards into the building.

Follow after the jump for more on that, along with the rest of your morning hockey news!

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are we really surprised....

that if the Cube isn’t ready to go, the FO will just call up a kid? that is their plan for this season, call up the kids. i hope it works, but i’m afraid after reaching a new step in the playoffs this year, relying on young talent could reverse the momentum gained by the team.

TN Sports fan in Hoosier Country....

by Evanbio on Jul 28, 2011 8:16 AM EDT reply actions  

The kids are alright.

World Wide Weber.
There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
~Joe Strummer

by cisar on Jul 28, 2011 4:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Heh

Nice to see The Tennessean trying to cash in on the wild popularity of NashvillePost’s Permit Patrol. And nice to see 1100 paying attention to a story that was reported two weeks ago.

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by JRTheByLineGrinder on Jul 28, 2011 8:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Reduce, reuse, recycle!

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by Dirk Hoag on Jul 28, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Easy there. I think he was on vacation. He gets to step away from time to time.

by el pucko on Jul 28, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ray Emery....

…. gave the Preds fits?

didn’t they score as many goals in one game against him as they did for the entire Vancouver series? Or something????

by djzielin on Jul 28, 2011 8:24 AM EDT reply actions  

When you’re used to The Rinne, Emery is an okay goaltender. When you’re used to, say, Dan Ellis, Emery is a great goalie. (And thus I got in my mandatory Dan Ellis joke for the day and it’s not even 9am.) [Emery’s very good and sometimes great, not elite. We get spoiled watching Rinne.]

"I'm a firm believer that in life, if you're happy then happy things will happen for you."--Bernie Parent
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Jul 28, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, it’s true. I recall some “fits of laughter” in Game 5…especially from Smithson.

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by Chas-E on Jul 28, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would give my left arm

for more ice in town. Let’s make that happen. I’ve got $30 to get the pot started. Maybe Belak is available to run the place…

by Marcus Newman on Jul 28, 2011 8:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe it's just me, but....

my left arm is worth a lot more than $30.

by bvkv09 on Jul 28, 2011 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, I was going to throw the $30 in on top of my left arm. So…arm + $30. I’m pretty hungry for ice time.

by Marcus Newman on Jul 28, 2011 12:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

maybe it will only be 99 more seats so...

17212.

Or maybe 17222, If they can get 109 new seats

:(

by IG-PRED8 on Jul 28, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Personally...

I think they ought to put in La-Z-Boy recliners and make it a nice 17171.

Gonna miss you Joel Ward...

Go Predmirals!

by Poiju on Jul 28, 2011 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad idea!

La-Z-Boy recliners would be filled with drunks catching Z’sss when we play the bottom feeder teams.

by SFPredsFan on Jul 28, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

AND?

That’s beer money.

Embrace the Black and Blue Checkerboard.

by ExcellenceThroughGuesswork on Jul 29, 2011 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

The first season...

They had that. You entered a drawing to be a “Neanderthal” and sit in a faux animal skin recliner behind attack once side.

Embrace the Black and Blue Checkerboard.

by ExcellenceThroughGuesswork on Jul 29, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t there going to be an addition pretty soon that adds more than a thousand seats because of an sec tournament coming here or the womens final four?

by preds4ever on Jul 28, 2011 11:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The do bring in tempoary seating for b-ball. I saw Metallica there in the round a couple of years ago and it was well over 19k in attendance. Maybe they are upgrading the bleachers or something?

by Marcus Newman on Jul 28, 2011 12:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't see that happening

The costs to add a 1,000 seats is very expensive for 1 game unless they reconfigured some sections. The SEC Women Tourney didn’t even sellout and the Bridge already seats over 19,000 for basketball. Until they sell more STH and have more sellouts I doubt they will expand until the demand is there.

by SFPredsFan on Jul 28, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of the acoustics

I wonder if the new addition will diminish the crowd noise in the building. That would be a shame.

by Predaceous on Jul 28, 2011 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

It was my understanding from Sean Henry

this would be a standing room only area like the fan zone at the United Center in Chicago. No actually new seats would be installed but it will still increased capacity. I suggested to the Preds they add SRO for big sellout games and the playoffs last spring and they said they would “look into it”. So if they do like Chicago and other SRO arenas around the country the official capacity will still be 17,113 but will see some/all sellout games over 100%. Never the less if they keep the official cap. at 17,113 we’ll see our attendance % increase along with average attendance/game. I could be wrong, but that’s the way they do it at the other SRO arenas. That Tennessean article was VERY vague so who knows until we read get more from the Preds and Bridgestone.

by SFPredsFan on Jul 28, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

FYI, not sure this helps clear up anything, but capacity for concerts and basketball games is usually larger than hockey and arena football, which takes up a bit more space. When one converts for bkb and concerts, usually you can roll in more seats.

by el pucko on Jul 28, 2011 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Correct

Wikipedia list Bridgestone as….
Capacity Basketball: 19,395
Ice hockey: 17,298 (1996-1999), 17,113 (1999-present)
Concert:

End Stage 20,000
Half-House 10,000
Theatre: 5,145

If they keep official hockey capacity at 17,113 but SRO tix put attendance up to say 17,213 or more for sellouts, it helps with % per game and avg attendance per game which helps meet the NHL requirements for attendance goals for revenue sharing. The Bridge could still have attendance over 17,113, but still have actual seats available for sale. This is a win/win for the Preds if that’s the way they are going to do it as other teams do. Kinda like cheating on attendance numbers and percentages without actually cheating. Does that make sense?

by SFPredsFan on Jul 28, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should take out the obstructed view seats...

… and save unsuspecting fans from a terrible realization. I ended up with the giant pole in front of me at a Red Wings game and nearly cried in my beer until the guys at the end of the row took pity on me. I learned my lesson, of course, since it states the fact right on the ticket. But still. I imagine some kid ending up there and being heartbroken.

by Dawn Of The Pred on Jul 28, 2011 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Where iss that seat?

World Wide Weber.
There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
~Joe Strummer

by cisar on Jul 28, 2011 4:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Really, didn’t know there were any in the ‘stone. The Metrodome was/is notorious for those. There’s a structural pillar or two in every upper deck section.

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Jul 28, 2011 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen to the obstructed seat issue.

In the Preds 2nd season the wife and I were bit hard with some seriously obstructed seats in 324. We went straight to Fan Relations and they handed over new tickets without hardly any conversation. We weren’t at that window 2 minutes.

After the game I emailed the head of ticket sales to suggest they clearly mark obstructed seats on Ticketmaster and at the Box office so fans would know what they were buying. Other teams do it.

Can’t remember the head of ticket sales at the time but he told me there were NO obstructed seats anywhere in the arena. Yeah, right. From our seats that night we could not see from the face-off dots to the goal on the attack once side.

by bandman on Jul 28, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clinching playoff game against San Jose last year

Upgraded my seats that I already paid 100.00 each for to get at center ice from a scalper. Paid another 100.00 just to find that I was behind the broadcast booth and it was blocking half the ice. I was pissed but with the predators winning, it made it worth it.

by jerljr on Jul 28, 2011 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

if partying got him into trouble in Philadelphia

I don’t know how that got turned into THE reason he was traded, but I’d rather it not have come from a gossip columnist.

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jul 28, 2011 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t you know that the juiciest statement is the truest? You must not be on Twitter. ;)

I have no doubt that there were hockey reasons for the trade. But I’d be lying if I said I wouldn’t be mildly concerned if I were a Kings fan, more about the locker room dynamics than necessarily the partying. Of course there are a lot of players I’d have that concern about. But lot of folks had that concern over O’Brien and he ended up a fan favorite around here after only one season.

"I'm a firm believer that in life, if you're happy then happy things will happen for you."--Bernie Parent
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Jul 28, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he did all that and still put up the numbers, that’s pretty impressive.

Seriously, though. Philadelphia’s actual gossip columnist. Not even a sports reporter.

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Jul 28, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, it’s pretty stupid. It got a lot of play because it fit in with old stories—and once people have decided what’s true, they love to have something confirm it. And his relationship with the press there was not…pleasant. So, people are going to go “Aha!”

Really, he’s a talented guy, and he was apparently not indulging to the point that he couldn’t play, so he’s a great get for y’all. We’re not all that happy about it, but it’s great for y’all. I think it was a Columbus blogger who said, as long as he plays like that, who cares about his private life.

Plus it’s July, so people have nothing else to talk about, except Weber and Doughty and Parise. I’d just as soon not have a whole lot of noise about Weber, and I’m sure you feel similarly about Doughty. Let’s talk about Parise for a while. :)

"I'm a firm believer that in life, if you're happy then happy things will happen for you."--Bernie Parent
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by CAustin on Jul 28, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Nobody here said that it was “THE reason he was traded.” Clearly, however, it’s a relevant storyline from his time with the Flyers.

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by Dirk Hoag on Jul 28, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s more of the way the story was picked up by everyone else. That angle became front and center.

Holmgren and Laviolette immediately countered with “That’s overblown, it wasn’t the reason he was traded” — but when it comes to choosing headlines, and what the focus on the Richards trade will be, they go with the partying angle straight off. And that gets more attention than anything anyone involved in the matter says to the contrary.

In Dinglebarn We Trust -- JftC

by Niesy on Aug 2, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Section 322

Right behind that giant pillar. Probably 8 or 10 of them, and its really bad. You get about a 40% view of the ice. They probably reckon since the one goal you can see is the twice-attack, then it’s permissable, but really its not. Be very careful if you end up in 322.

by Dawn Of The Pred on Jul 28, 2011 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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