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Monday afternoon notes: Preds fans on #weberwatch

The tension is building within the Nashville Predators fan base, as the hours tick down to tomorrow morning's arbitration hearing with Shea Weber (scheduled for 8:00 a.m. Central time). For a taste of what the conversation is like on Twitter, just check out the #weberwatch hashtag in the widget below for a sampling. There's a range of worry, humor, and speculation that will keep your head spinning until this story reaches its conclusion.

And if you need a distraction, follow after the jump for some hockey news from around the league!

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Nashville Predators News

Poile Hopes Weber Isn’t His Next Scott Stevens | PuckScene.com
David Poile has referred to the Scott Stevens situation as one he doesn't want to repeat again, so one wonders if that personal angle adds an urgency to the team's efforts.

Preds On The Glass: Getting to Know Blogger's Row: Ryan Porth
Buddy turns the tables...

Who's in Milwaukee (Defense Edition)? - Milwaukee Admirals
Aaron Sims has a great look here at who's likely to break camp with the Preds, and could start in Milwaukee this fall. Just a real good read here that will whet your appetite for training camp.

Around the NHL

NHL News: Nassau Referendum Vote Not Looking Good for Islanders - Blueshirt Banter
The early polling data doesn't look good for New York Islanders fans.

Chelios leads U.S. Hockey Hall of Fame group - NHL.com
Ryan Suter's uncle Gary is part of a star-studded group entering the US Hockey Hall of Fame, along with Chris Chelios, Keith Tkachuk, broadcaster Mike Emrick, and Philadelphia Flyers owner Ed Snider.

Burns and Wilson each had their reasons for contract extension sooner rather than later | Working the Corners
Brent Burns, who was recently traded to San Jose and was eligible for unrestricted free agency next summer, signed a 5-year, $28.8 million extension.

NBC to rename Versus just in time for Winter Classic in Philly - Broad Street Hockey
"NBC Sports Network" will take its bow on January 2nd.

The Sheet: Marek's thoughts on hockey - sportsnet.ca
Congratulations (or condolences?) to Jeff Marek for making the switch from Hockey Night In Canada Radio to a blog on Sportsnet.

Ringing The Post - Best Hockey Song Ever - Five For Howling
I'll go with the golden oldie, "The Hockey Song". Years ago I took one of my sons to a Preds game, and he fell asleep on the way home (he was maybe 5). As I carried him into the house, he started muttering "the good old hockey game... it's the best game you can name..." in his sleep. You just can't beat moments like that.

NHL Waiver Rules | The Hockey Writers
A useful resource here for all your waiver questions. With so many young guys involved with the Preds, waiver eligibility can play a large role in who stays in Nashville and who goes to Milwaukee.

Weekly Hate: The Six Worst Rules in Hockey - Winging It In Motown
August is the perfect time for "rules I'd change" material...

Lowetide: RE 11-12: Ryan Jones
A harsh assessment of how the former Pred might fare in Edmonton this season. A huge part of his production last season was due to opportunity, and is unlikely to be repeated.

Brophy: Three teams feeling the heat - sportsnet.ca
I don't know, I have a hard time calling the Canucks underachievers when they won the Presidents Trophy by a country mile and fell in the 7th game of the Stanley Cup Final.

The overrated value of a faceoff | OilersNation
I'd say part of the issue with faceoffs being overrated is that the margin of performance is so slim for most of the league. Of the 86 guys who take enough draws to be eligible for the "Faceoff Leaders" stat on NHL.com, 62 fall within the 45-55% range for wins.

Rival Panthers A Whole New Beast - Raw Charge
Might we have a real, competitive rivalry rolling in Florida this season?

Puck Daddy’s Guilty Pleasures: ESPN anchor John Buccigross - Puck Daddy
A Q&A with one of hockey's champions in Bristol.

Interview With The Agent: Scott Norton - BusinessInsider.com
It's always interesting to hear from a hockey agent...

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I'm glad I'm not on Twitter......

  Like I need any more distractions in life. :/

  And just when I’ve gotten people to know what Versus is, they change the name. :/

Shadows only exist when something of substance appears first.......

by Grizzledbear on Aug 1, 2011 5:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I could be wrong...

but the general consensus is to pay Weber correct?
/sarcasmoff

"Who own da Chiefs?!"
"Jesus, what did the old man trade for these a$$holes, a used puck bag? "

by predhead33 on Aug 1, 2011 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Signing Big Three

I just dont see it. I dont see us signing all three.

I’m think that the lack of signings this year is becuase they are going to make the attempt. But if they do there wont be any money left to sign anybody else.

by jerljr on Aug 1, 2011 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Continue

It will be the big three and a bunch of rookies and one- two year players.

by jerljr on Aug 1, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Butts in the seats takes care of the Preds ills…..That,+ another investor and as many events in Bridgestone they can muster.

by Predator Don on Aug 1, 2011 6:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder......

If they ever get somebody to buy up the remaining portion of the team ownership, if then we can spend more? Isn’t almost a quarter of the team. I woudl think it would have to help.

by jerljr on Aug 1, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really wish I could go to more games this year. I have to finish my degree though before I change off my schedule (or find a new job).

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 1, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy Crap!

Other than the few nuggets one can sift through the screen, twitter is like Facebook.

“Hi, I’m watching Weber watch”

“My dogs will bark if anything happens”

“My knee hurts, Weber must be holding out”

Sheesh…

What happens on the ice...stays on the ice...

by BrianAdsFan on Aug 1, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoa!

I had no idea about the Scott Stevens thing.

Whatcha gonna do Poile?

(David…Mommy’s talking to you…stop wearing those dresses)….(I know Mommy….I just like the way they feel….). VOICES IN MY HEAD…..MAKE THEM GO AWAY!!!

POILE, YOU"D BETTER NOT F*$% THIS ONE UP!!!

The truth is always the right answer....

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Aug 1, 2011 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah that’s not going to happen again. Caps fan, was in dc when it happened, we got a lot for Scotty but it wasn’t enough. Poile isn’t going to let it happen again. My question is: is the price going to be too high? I mean not just signing Weber but all three. He’s in a tough spot.

by el pucko on Aug 1, 2011 8:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Not saying Webs is.going to be Stevens. Similarities in their games. I hope so. Scotty’s No 3 should be hanging at mci center. Hope to see that big No.6 hanging from Bridgestone (or whatever we’ll call it in 20 years). But it requires a bit of faith, belief from our captain, I think. Im trusting that the money will be there.

by el pucko on Aug 1, 2011 8:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Surely it can’t be the money. We are still 7 mil below the cap floor. The money is there to burn.

by kypredsfan on Aug 1, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

We know it’s the term/future of the team that concerns Weber.

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 1, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

In other words he doesnt have any faith in the FO or Trotz and / or doesnt want to be stuck on a team that doesn’t have a chance to win the cup

by DHack on Aug 1, 2011 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. He can play for anyone. So why should it be Nashville? Like I said, will require a bit of faith. As a Preds fan, I’d like to think they can pitch a dynamite D foundation for years to come and a mostly starless team that was at the doorstep of the conference final with no PP and no.one even close to 30 goals. I think the team believes they can get those things … but they have to take care of the core first. So here’s hoping Shea’s drunk the Kool-aid and believes in this little team that could.

by el pucko on Aug 1, 2011 10:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I’m hoping Rads comes back and Smith turns out to be a 40+ goal scorer, because I don’t know if we’re getting anyone that can do that here to February.

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 1, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be...

That since the FO started this whole arbitration thing, he wants to see it through so they can’t pull it on him again. He takes the one year route seeing if the really want to resign Suter and Pekka and go after a Goal scorer. They do he stays. They dont he still gets the big pay day as a RA in one year from the Preds or someone else. Bit of a gamble on his part though. A stray puck or a shot to the head and his career could be over.

by DHack on Aug 1, 2011 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shea.

sign a 5 year 33.75m deal or be traded to San Jose for Marleau/Burns.

by Shawn Kehoe on Aug 1, 2011 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Not looking good so far for Islander fans.

 (WITH 230 OF 1160 PRECINCTS COUNTED 19.83%)
           YES/SI . . . . . . . . . . . 6,584 40.80
           NO/NO. . . . . . . . . . . . 9,553 59.20

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 1, 2011 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Update: No stadium for LI.

          REFERENDUM QUESTION:
          (VOTE FOR) 1
              (WITH 947 OF 1160 PRECINCTS COUNTED 81.64%)
           YES/SI . . . . . . . . . . . 53,740 43.03
           NO/NO. . . . . . . . . . . . 71,138 56.97

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 2, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

  Not a good time for any public financing projects in this economy I suppose. Shame for the Isles.

Shadows only exist when something of substance appears first.......

by Grizzledbear on Aug 2, 2011 12:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

HAMILTON/JAMILTON

by el pucko on Aug 1, 2011 10:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

  Does Poile even stay up this late?

  Hard to imagine that everyone is going to start negotiating at 7AM or so before the arbitration hearing takes place. I barely have a pulse that early in the morning. :D

Shadows only exist when something of substance appears first.......

by Grizzledbear on Aug 1, 2011 11:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm hoping

they’ll be up all night working on a deal. I guess I’ll just have to keep hoping!

by musamonster on Aug 2, 2011 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well I just got to work so I’ll be up all night checking in. Come on Poile! Don’t screw the pooch after our best success ever.

by kypredsfan on Aug 2, 2011 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm Tired

I’m going to sleep. I am starting to lose a lot of hope. I think this clip sums up how I feel right now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG1wixpW8lQ

Goodnight, and good luck.

"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster

by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Aug 2, 2011 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Droppin’ like flies. Well, I’ll be here on the watch till late morn.

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 2, 2011 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Much respect, I am sleep-deprived

If he signs, get an airhorn, get in a car, and drive around the city blowing it and yelling “we did it!” Please, if you would.

"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster

by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Aug 2, 2011 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m here as well, on and off atleast, depends on if stuff breaks down in the plant. How bad is it gonna suck if they do go to arbitration? Can’t we have a non stressful offseason? That’s too much to ask I suppose.

by kypredsfan on Aug 2, 2011 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Methinks these new uniforms are bad juju.

by MekootLobo on Aug 2, 2011 3:18 AM EDT reply actions  

It's 4:30am...and

nothing. 3.5 hours until arbitration. :/

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 2, 2011 5:32 AM EDT reply actions  

5:30 am now

And still nothing. 2.5 hours to go :/

by kypredsfan on Aug 2, 2011 6:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

THE FINAL COUNTDOWN DOO DOO DOO DOOOO.

Anyway, some part of me is wondering/hoping this has all been a publicity stunt to drum up attention in the team, player, etc. At 8:59AM, they’ll announce the deal that they worked out 2 months ago.

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 2, 2011 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Part of me has wondered that as well. Only to announce all 3 re-signings at once. Oh, a man can dream.

by kypredsfan on Aug 2, 2011 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best bait and switch ever.

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 2, 2011 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL
Rumor has it the Shea weber wants around 8 million and Nashville’s biggest offer has been 4.5 million. #WeberWatch

Yeah, right Twitter dude. They wouldn’t lowball him that much.

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 2, 2011 6:54 AM EDT reply actions  

I saw that too. We are 7 mil below the floor. If Poile offered 4.5, I’d find out where he lives and kick him square in the nuts

by kypredsfan on Aug 2, 2011 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, maybe as a starting point..months ago.

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 2, 2011 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t remember the exact figure… but isn’t that about what he was making???

by NikolaiW on Aug 2, 2011 7:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Pretty much lol

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 2, 2011 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

And this is why I’m not on twitter.

by NikolaiW on Aug 2, 2011 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just woke up

And it wasn’t by Donborvio’s airhorn so I see we still haven’t signed him. Ruh-roh.

"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster

by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Aug 2, 2011 8:20 AM EDT reply actions  

40 mins to panic.

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 2, 2011 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

how long...

does arbitration last? just trying to determine when I can celebrate/panic.

TN Sports fan in Hoosier Country....

by Evanbio on Aug 2, 2011 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

90 mins per side + 10 min rebuttal for the starting party: 3h10m.

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 2, 2011 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow....

that’s a long time to wait. i might have to be productive for a while. :(

TN Sports fan in Hoosier Country....

by Evanbio on Aug 2, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

“So, you ever see those Lipizzaner Stallions?”

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 2, 2011 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

T-10mins. Any last requests

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 2, 2011 8:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Blindfold, please…..

by Predator Don on Aug 2, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

For some reason, Clint Eastwood keeps poppin’ in my head…..

Hang em high
A fistfull of dollars
The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

by Predator Don on Aug 2, 2011 8:55 AM EDT reply actions  

I've been saying this for weeks

http://crashthecrease.com/2011/08/02/all-the-eyes-are-on-shea-weber-and-the-nashville-predators/
Regardless of what happens today, I don’t understand all the angst. He’s gonna be here this season and next season as well. Chill. Lots can happen before the summer of 2013. The much bigger fish to fry are Suter and Rinne becoming ufa’s next summer.

The truth is neither libelous nor slanderous.
Reason and logic instead of hope and faith.
Pro athletes--it's not what they say, it's what they do.

by shoot the puck on Aug 2, 2011 8:55 AM EDT reply actions  

It's the principle of the thing...

Does Weber stand for and with the team? Does he just want the best deal? What does he believe the team can do? This is why this is so important.

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 2, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unless Weber comes out a states why he wanted arbitration, this imo, can only be looked upon as bad for the team and organization.

This could end up as another distraction, to go along with all the other distractions my team has endured over the last few years….Hopefully, it will not affect the on ice performence.

I’m interested in seeing our offer and what the Weber camp requests.

by Predator Don on Aug 2, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

What principle?

That he wants to receive market value for his services and he wants to play for a team that can actually contend for the Cup?

The truth is neither libelous nor slanderous.
Reason and logic instead of hope and faith.
Pro athletes--it's not what they say, it's what they do.

by shoot the puck on Aug 2, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

But

Now he will be available to offer sheets next summer :(

by kypredsfan on Aug 2, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
DarrenDreger Darren Dreger
No deal for Weber. Going to arbitration now.

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 2, 2011 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Hold on to your butts.

by NikolaiW on Aug 2, 2011 9:13 AM EDT reply actions  

one of the greatest movie lines ever….

TN Sports fan in Hoosier Country....

by Evanbio on Aug 2, 2011 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

From Josh Cooper on Twitter
I kind of had an idea this would happen, but thought both sides would eventually make a deal.

Gee Josh, which is it?

The truth is neither libelous nor slanderous.
Reason and logic instead of hope and faith.
Pro athletes--it's not what they say, it's what they do.

by shoot the puck on Aug 2, 2011 9:34 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't have Twitter.

THANK GOD!

the same three messages repeated over and over?

by djzielin on Aug 2, 2011 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Bad way to make History

First Team Elected arbitration to make it to a hearing. Should have let the Offer sheets come in and just matched. Another Poile Blunder…

by DHack on Aug 2, 2011 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

What can the Preds Win?

Can the Arbitrator make Weber take 7 to 7.5 mill for 5 years?

by DHack on Aug 2, 2011 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

It’ll be either a one or two year contract.

The Leafs are my Rushmore
Certified Grabbo Lover and member of the PPPPP

by Plea From A Cat Named Felix on Aug 2, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

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