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Elliotte Friedman on 1045 The Zone 20110808 (mp3)

Hockey Night in Canada's Elliotte Friedman joined Willy Daunic and Jacob Underwood to talk about the implications of the Shea Weber arbitration. Elliotte's one of the best hockey journalists in the biz, and offers insight from his sources around the league.

Preds Sign D-Man, Ads Schedule Pre-season Games | Admirals Roundtable
Just like the title says, Ryan wonders whether Jack Hillen will play in Nashville or Milwaukee, and looks ahead to the recently-released AHL pre-season schedule.

Lastly, the Preds posted this profile & interview on Craig Smith, who recently left the college ranks and will be one of the most exciting prospects to watch in September's training camp:

Around the NHL

Chris Pronger thinks he'll be ready for Game 1 [Transcript] - Broad Street Hockey
Chris Pronger's health is, to my mind, the biggest factor in Philly's chances this season. 

Sean Avery Scores Upset Victory, Enjoys Post-Race Oat Bag - SBNation.com
No, not the horse's ass, the horse.

Dog Days of Summer: Dan Carcillo Edition | CANUCKS HOCKEY BLOG

It's good to know that the Vancouver/Chicago rivalry can still simmer here in August, even if Carcillo got some of the names wrong here.

The Non-Russian Factor – NHL Theory May Become Obsolete | The Hockey Writers
Interesting stuff, when you consider the Preds haven't drafted a Russian since Alexander Radulov in 2004.

‘Joey the Kid’ Needs Six Shooter for Sharks to Tame the Wild, Wild West | The Hockey Writers
It's amazing how players' games will change once they reach the NHL level and find their niche; Joe Thornton used to be quite the goal scorer on his way up, and San Jose may need him to fire the puck more aggressively this season.

Three is a Magic Number for Carlyle - Anaheim Calling
SB Nation's Anaheim bloggers react to the new contract which sets Randy Carlyle up for the next three seasons.

The Peerless Prognosticator: Captivation and the Burden of Expectation
Is Alex Ovechkin the king of Washington sports, or does young pitcher Stephen Strasburg threatening his place?

Goal Line Report : From the Ice to the Booth: An Interview with Kevin Weekes
Kevin Weekes has developed into one of the more interesting commentators on TV, and if you can catch CBC's "After Hours" program after the late Saturday night game during the season, it's some of the best hockey talk you'll find.

Introducing the Apprenticeship Program - The Goalie Guild
A novel idea here, as The Goalie Guild opens up opportunity to fledgling writers who want to focus on goaltending.

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The Titans didn't sell-out ANY game, yesterday

MANY 1,000’s of tickets left………for various reasons.

The Preds have a golden opportunity to gain some new fans and ticket-buyers, if the potential fans do have any discretionary entertainment funds available to spend.

We’ll see.

We need to keep growing the paid fan-base to keep the small market subsidy.

Go Preds !

by LetUsPrey on Aug 9, 2011 10:22 AM EDT reply actions  

LSG

My professor just asked us about our opinions on Scandinavians. I was tempted to tell him they were big and tended to be hockey goalies.

by E-Sco on Aug 9, 2011 11:06 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I LOVE MY LSGs!!!!!

PS. I’m not sure it has been mentioned in the press yet today, so just to be very clear: Pekka is tall. Anders is tall. :D

"I'm a firm believer that in life, if you're happy then happy things will happen for you."--Bernie Parent
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Aug 9, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Admittedly, it needs to be updated. Magnus is way too late to be Elmo, though…

by LuvthePreds on Aug 9, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess it will have to be Jeremy Smith.

by E-Sco on Aug 9, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Besides, Dex isn’t Elmo, either. And Smith is only 6’0".

"I'm a firm believer that in life, if you're happy then happy things will happen for you."--Bernie Parent
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Aug 9, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops

…too tall, not too late…

by LuvthePreds on Aug 9, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got it!

The giraffe, Big Bird and Cookie Monster are Peks, Anders and Magnus. Mitch Korn can be Elmo. My daughter’s the one who did this, so I’ll have her make the revision in after she finishes her summer reading. : )

by LuvthePreds on Aug 9, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOLOL!
Mitch Korn can be Elmo

"I'm a firm believer that in life, if you're happy then happy things will happen for you."--Bernie Parent
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Aug 10, 2011 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also all over the map...

…. Weber overrated, says a Red Wings fan?? Say it ain’t so!

Linky

Countdown to JJfromKansas arriving onsite in 3…….2……….1………….

by djzielin on Aug 9, 2011 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Mostly agree with him...

I don’t think Weber is overrated, but I do believe Suter is way underrated and a bit better overall then Shea.

Gonna miss you Joel Ward...

Go Predmirals!

by Poiju on Aug 9, 2011 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t want him to go to the Wings anyway, so it’s all good. (Though I don’t want Suter there, either).

Did I just agree with a Wings fan?

"I'm a firm believer that in life, if you're happy then happy things will happen for you."--Bernie Parent
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Aug 9, 2011 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mostly....

… he wants Suter there. :P

by djzielin on Aug 9, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

As an eventual replacement for Lidstrom? I could see them making a play for either 6 or 20 if one has to go.

by OddManRush on Aug 9, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

possibly...

but it’s the offseason. crazy sh!t happens.

TN Sports fan in Hoosier Country....

by Evanbio on Aug 9, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m the opposite, since i think suter is way overated.

by predwheels on Aug 9, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

care to elaborate?

"I'm a firm believer that in life, if you're happy then happy things will happen for you."--Bernie Parent
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by CAustin on Aug 9, 2011 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i’m at work, so i don’t have the number in front of me. weber was around 2 assists behind suter who is the preds top pp qb. weber has 10 or so more goals. people give suter more room since he is not known as a shooter. weber sees tighter coverage because of his shot. weber has many more hits and blocked shots. these matter since these are defenseman not forwards. towards the end of the regular season, suter rivaled sob for time in the box. holding and interference which usually mean bad position and not the speed to make up for it.

by predwheels on Aug 9, 2011 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, long lunch

I’ll take whatever jabs you want to throw at me around here. The guy is rated as one of the five best defenseman in the league, but anybody who would rate him as worth mortgaging the future to get gives him too much credit.

by J.J. from Kansas on Aug 9, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s probably why there’s been such a strong reaction to this deal here. I think we kinda were expecting a hometown discount and when 7.5 happened instead, some folks felt like that was mortgaging our immediate future. given our budgetary constraints and all. It may have died down some by now, but there’s been a pretty strong “he’s not worth all this” reaction going on in PredsNation.

I agree that Suter gets overlooked (hidden in the shadow of Shea’s beard?) but there are few here who don’t know his worth. And if it convinces any team to underestimate him and let him sneak around doing damage, I’m okay with it.

And you can’t have either one. Or Pekka. Ever.

"I'm a firm believer that in life, if you're happy then happy things will happen for you."--Bernie Parent
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Aug 9, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly...

I agree with tons of things you said:

A. I refuse to do the wave. Fans entertaining themselves should only happen during boring sports (aka baseball).
B. I couldn’t agree more about “selling the farm” for one player, especially a defenseman.
C. Overall, Suter is probably a little better defenseman. Weber is flashier and meaner, but Suter is that sneaky awesome that casual fans don’t appreciate.

by dnorm4 on Aug 9, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love it when Suter steers someone into Weber’s path to get hit. That’s a partnership! :)

"I'm a firm believer that in life, if you're happy then happy things will happen for you."--Bernie Parent
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Aug 9, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is NO wave in hockey! EVER!

The water is frozen!

What happens on the ice...stays on the ice...

by BrianAdsFan on Aug 9, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lebda not listed on our roster anymore!

Hillen was added, Sloan is not there. Sloan must be starting in Milwaukee.

http://predators.nhl.com/club/roster.htm

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 9, 2011 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I saw that and I wondered about it, cuz none of the kiddos that Poile’s been selling are on there. I wondered if it’s just a marketing thing (“just get something up on the website”) or if it means some sort of decision has been made.

"I'm a firm believer that in life, if you're happy then happy things will happen for you."--Bernie Parent
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Aug 9, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dirk says the buyout window if there was one, should be over now. I wonder if we’re waiting for him to be signed by a KHL or some Euro hockey team?

Hockeymetricians, they're ever so pious. Are they doing real science or confirming their bias?

by DonBorvio on Aug 9, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is getting more and more bizarre. Waive him and then…..what? Complete silence? Something interesting will probably happen while I’m away tonight.

"I'm a firm believer that in life, if you're happy then happy things will happen for you."--Bernie Parent
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Aug 9, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean...

a move to get Stamkos?…..JK…you know we love ya like a fat kid loves cake…Nom..nom.nom..

by HardCorePredFan316 on Aug 9, 2011 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even that can't bother me right now :)

I’m in a good mood today from watching Klein beat up Corey @#$% Perry. That was glorious. That and Obie’s scoreboard taunt. :) Good times…good times.

DTP!

"I'm a firm believer that in life, if you're happy then happy things will happen for you."--Bernie Parent
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Aug 9, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

come back tonight

and we can comment on game 2 from NHL Network!

by Shadow23 on Aug 9, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

Yup! Game 2 tonight.

"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster

by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Aug 9, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder whether any of the teams’ sbnation sites are putting up GDTs for these replays. Doubtful, but possible…

by LuvthePreds on Aug 9, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sounds like a good idea, I’ll do that for the rest of them…

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by Dirk Hoag on Aug 9, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, please do!

I felt lonely talking to myself haha, and didn’t want to make a fanpost and talk to myself there.

"Next time someone tells you Nashville’s not a hockey town, tell ‘em to come try some of the home cookin’." - TSN Broadcaster

by Go_Titans_Preds_USC on Aug 9, 2011 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t be here in the evenings right now. I’d really love to watch along with everyone, but I’ve got family obligations. Sad face. :-(

"I'm a firm believer that in life, if you're happy then happy things will happen for you."--Bernie Parent
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Aug 10, 2011 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good catch, both of you. May not mean anything at all. Not surprised the kids aren’t there. Interesting that Hillen is there, and Sloan is not. I don’t know much about Hillen, but I’ve seen a lot of Sloan. I think he can help.

Good interview with Elliotte Friedman, by the way. Agree with his read on the Weber situation, and not surprised he broke the story. This “window of opportunity” GMDP talked about at Skate of the Union now has some shape. Two years. At least with the current cast.

by el pucko on Aug 9, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops my bad, was responding to something way up there, with the Preds roster on the website … but while i’m here taking up more space, Patten and cisar, thanks for making me laugh lots yesterday … dare you to find a way to use “isthmus” in a hockey blog again

by el pucko on Aug 9, 2011 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Stay tuned…

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There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
~Joe Strummer

by cisar on Aug 10, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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