Tuesday's notes: Are shootouts more common as the playoffs approach?
by Dirk Hoag on Feb 14, 2012 11:06 AM EST
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PrintOur morning hockey notes kick off with an observation from Nashville Predators head coach Barry Trotz, as quoted by Mike Organ of the Tennessean:
It's the time of the year, Coach Barry Trotz said, when shootouts become more commonplace in the NHL because most teams are playing at an elevated level.
"I'd like to know what the percentage of shootouts are in the last 20 or 30 games," Trotz said. "Teams tighten up; there's more one-goal games, more ties, more shootouts."
Well, coach, your hunch appears to be correct, at least based on how things shook out last season:
| Month | Shootouts | Games | Frequency |
| October | 11 | 156 | 7.1% |
| November | 22 | 201 | 10.9% |
| December | 28 | 209 | 13.4% |
| January | 24 | 184 | 13.0% |
| February | 26 | 191 | 13.6% |
| March | 33 | 218 | 15.1% |
| April | 6 | 71 | 8.5% |
I wouldn't read too much into that April number, considering how few games take place that month, and that you have many teams at that point who are either cruising to the playoffs or just playing out the string. It's not like there's a huge spike in shootouts during the latter portion of the season, but maybe a handful more than normal. I'll have to take a look at the frequency of overtime games at some point, too.
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with Rads, we need to adopt a fight club approach until the day we actually physically see him
The only rule of Radulov is you don’t talk about Radulov
60% of the time it works every time
by Creeping Death on Feb 14, 2012 11:32 AM EST reply actions
I think this also means that it’s going to turn out that David Poile and Radulov are the same person.
Well played sir
Laughed out loud on that one.
I have often wondered the same thing. I have never seen them in the same room at the same time… and DP does have quite the affinity for Russian pop music
60% of the time it works every time
by Creeping Death on Feb 14, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha, that was excellent!!
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by davisca on Feb 14, 2012 6:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
More genius by Trotz
Like how Smithson is necessary anymore.
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 14, 2012 12:06 PM EST reply actions
Just me being surly
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 14, 2012 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Aren't you always surely?
lol
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by davisca on Feb 14, 2012 6:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Aye.
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 14, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Power Rankings
What happened to the compilation of power rankings that used to get posted here? I really enjoyed that feature. Any chance of it coming back?
Unfortunately I just don’t have the time for that. There were a few folks who gather such info and posted it in a FanPost, that’s always an option for an enterprising reader.
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I'd do it....
… But I would do it in a manner that it would never appear on a set day/time.
Anyone want to share this “responsibility”?
Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.
If it's quantitative.......
……..better let an Ohio State guy do it.
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 14, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
LOL @ Blum on twitter:
Im gonna Drink a LATTA CHAMPAGNE on VALENTINES day while I do my THANG in my FORD
"We want to keep beating them...to break their pride and break their season...is a huge thing for us." - David Legwand
Oh boy. You get it, Blum…
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by davisca on Feb 14, 2012 6:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Rick Nash
if he’s available and expresses any interest in coming to Nashville, the Predators need to do whatever it takes to get him. He would be a perfect fit in so many ways. He is a most unassuming superstar who doesn’t appear to crave the limelight of bigger markets. His talent, work ethic, and class both on and off the ice are without question. He would mesh seamlessly in the Preds’ locker room and is one of only a handful of players out there who would make the Predators a bona fide Cup contender for years to come. It seems as if he has been in the league forever but he is only 27. Just take a look at his body of work, then think of the excitement his acquisition would generate, not just among the fans but the players as well. Of course he will not come cheap; nothing worthwhile does. But to me, of all the names being tossed around as possible trade acquisitions, Nash is the guy. Wishful thinking? Maybe. Maybe not.
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by shoot the puck on Feb 14, 2012 12:46 PM EST reply actions
you cant
give up Wilson. I honestly think he should be one of the untouchables if we have such a thing. He is one of our only big body forwards that goes into the corners, plays hard, is very fast, shoots (ha), and has that hockey iq that a lot dont. I dont want him in an sort of package deal for Nash, Ryan, Parise whomever. Its not worth it getting rid of him. He is night and day from when he was benched during last season and part of the playoffs.
A lot of people want to maybe dangle Ellis but why?! small or not, hes got that hockey IT too. And why would anyone want Blum in part of a package? his play is self explanatory this year, NHL and AHL. I think he will be solid eventually.
Yes I get that you have to give up players to get players but not Wilson, Horny, Smith, Ellis or Josi for that matter. Ellis and Yosi are our future Suter and Weber. Probably not quite as good but could be pretty damn solid.
I respectfully disagree
the only sacred cow is Rinne. I’m not advocating giving up the entire farm, but to acquire a truly elite player such as Nash you know going in the price is going to be steep. You have to ask yourself, do you want to go for it or not?
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by shoot the puck on Feb 14, 2012 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
yes and no
Rinne probably is the only guy we wont trade but I think Wilson is close to the top of someone we shouldnt trade. Sorry I shouldve phrased it like that. He has so much potential to be our version of Rick Nash and cost half the price. Hes not there yet I know but you see flashes every single game and a lot of flashes.
Just not seeing it
Nash came into the league as an 18 year old and in his first three seasons scored 89 goals. Willy will be lucky to total half as many by the time his third season concludes in April. He’ll never be that productive here. Somewhere else maybe, but not here.
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by shoot the puck on Feb 14, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
agree with you to an extent.
goals aren’t close obviously but I’d wager most Preds fans don’t want to ship Wilson out. I’m not saying it well but my point is he’s our top young big body talent. don’t want to get rid of him…unless the perfect trade scenario. That’s not Four of our guys for just Nash and his +$7 million contract.
by ajs3677 on Feb 14, 2012 3:33 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Agree about Nash
But Wilson IS all that. It’d be a small net gain if we gave up Wilson for Nash, and wouldn’t be worth it IMO. On the other hand, Ellis, Watson….all them guys are trade bait. Anybody who contributes NOW shouldn’t be on the table. Sure Ellis is ok now and he’ll get better, but he wouldn’t be a major loss if we’re making a cup run.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 14, 2012 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
It’d be a small net gain if we gave up Wilson for Nash
Woah, what kind of Wilson colored glasses are you watching Preds games through? IDK, maybe you’re severely undervaluing Nash’s talent. He’s had only 2… 2!!! of his 8 seasons as a pro where he didn’t score 30 or more goals. His rookie year, and a year where he scored 27. If we traded for Nash, he would be the greatest forward to EVER play for Nashville as a Pred. (Forsberg was past his prime when he came here.)
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by Shawn Kehoe on Feb 14, 2012 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
They're thick Wilson colored glasses.
I like him and think he opens up a lotta space for other guys around him. Especially on the PP. He’s a great player but it doesn’t necessarily show up on the scoresheet every night.
I’m not saying he’s better than Nash, just that we don’t want to give up a talented young offensive player to add one that’s more talented. Of course I’d trade the two one for one, but if we don’t have to we shouldn’t is all I’m saying.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 15, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
Rick Nash-ville in Smashville.
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by shoot the puck on Feb 14, 2012 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
That rolls of the tongue nicely.
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by davisca on Feb 14, 2012 6:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
It would be amazing, but I don’t see Poile giving up what it would take to get him considering they’re a division team. I also think Poile will go after a defenseman before a forward, almost every team needs scoring help and the cost will be high.
Maybe so. But what has defense first has gotten the Predators thus far? No division title and one playoff series win. Why not see what some added offense will bring? Nash is soooooo much better than Forsberg was the last time the Preds went for it.
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Pro athletes--it's not what they say, it's what they do.
General managers--it's not what they say, it's what they do.
by shoot the puck on Feb 14, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Contradicting myself a little bit here, but....
As much as I’d like Nash, the way we’ve been giving up goals lately, a solid #3 defenseman may be a better move.
Why not do both?
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Reason and logic instead of hope and faith.
Pro athletes--it's not what they say, it's what they do.
General managers--it's not what they say, it's what they do.
by shoot the puck on Feb 14, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Haven’t read the other responses yet, so someone may have said this, but I don’t think gmdp will go for a defenseman first unless any forward that will possibly help the Preds is unavailable. I think Sutber’s demands have made that quite clear, and I don’t think he’ll ignore what they’re saying OR what they want, because he wants them to stay.
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by davisca on Feb 14, 2012 6:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
i think nashville probably have the worst odd to obtain nash
We’re their biggest rivals, no way do they give us nash
by JBoogie22 on Feb 14, 2012 1:54 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I might agree with you if the Predators still had some games with the Blue Jackets this season. But they don’t, and by the time they play again next season everybody will have moved on. If the Predators can offer up what the Jackets perceive as filling their needs I don’t think being in the same division would be a deal-breaker. I remember when Steve Sullivan came to the Predators from the Blackhawks and the fact it was an intra-divisional trade was no big deal at all.
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Reason and logic instead of hope and faith.
Pro athletes--it's not what they say, it's what they do.
General managers--it's not what they say, it's what they do.
by shoot the puck on Feb 14, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
you're comparing the acquisition of Sully to a potential trade for Nash
There’s the flaw in your argument…
by JBoogie22 on Feb 14, 2012 2:59 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
How so?
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Reason and logic instead of hope and faith.
Pro athletes--it's not what they say, it's what they do.
General managers--it's not what they say, it's what they do.
by shoot the puck on Feb 14, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
you think the two acquisitions are a fair comparison?
by JBoogie22 on Feb 14, 2012 4:39 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
In the sense that trades between teams in the same division is not that big a deal, yes. Besides, Sullivan wasn’t exactly chopped liver when he came to Nashville—103 goals in the 4 seasons prior to the trade and 24 goals between Chicago and Nashville the year the trade was made.
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Reason and logic instead of hope and faith.
Pro athletes--it's not what they say, it's what they do.
General managers--it's not what they say, it's what they do.
by shoot the puck on Feb 14, 2012 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
I think shootouts should be removed or shootout wins should be worth less.
Too many playoff decisions are decided because of a load of shootout wins. It just doesn’t seem right to allow a shootout to have that much significance.
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