NHL Trade Market Finally Creaking To Life: Grossman to Philly, Moore to San Jose
by Dirk Hoag on Feb 16, 2012 7:45 PM EST
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In what many observers have been waiting for, it looks like the NHL Trade Deadline season is finally getting underway, as two deals completed this afternoon have seen upcoming free agents move from teams out of the playoffs, to teams positioning themselves for a possible Stanley Cup run.
Dallas sends defenseman Nicklas Grossman to Philadelphia
In the first trade of the day, the Dallas Stars sent 27-year-old defenseman Nicklas Grossman to Philadelphia, for a 2nd-round draft pick this summer, and a 3rd-rounder in 2013. The Flyers have been linked to just about every possible blueliner on the market, and TSN's Darren Dreger said on Twitter just a bit ago that they may be looking for another defenseman to shore up their lineup.
With the trade market featuring more buyers than sellers, this presumably makes things a little bit tougher on the other teams out there still looking for help.
Just look at the face on that guy! He's ready to COMPETE!
Tampa Bay trades center Dominic Moore to San Jose
In a depth move, the San Jose Sharks picked up center Dominic Moore from Tampa Bay, in exchange for Minnesota's 2nd-round pick this summer, which the Sharks had acquired previously (that might end up being pretty decent). His career-best numbers came with Toronto in 2008-9 (13 goals and 32 assists), but Moore had a strong playoff last year for Tampa, chipping in 3 goals and 8 assists in 18 games.
As is typical lately, it seems like 2nd-round picks are the currency of choice for decent rental players on expiring contracts. I imagine, however, that as certain markets dry up, such as for veteran defensemen capable of 2nd-pair duty, we might see the price creep up a bit.
What are your thoughts on these two deals? Do they impact the Predators' chances of finding what they need (presuming they need anything at all)?
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Seems like Philly overpaid a bit for a pure rental, 18 min/gm D-man with almost no offensive production
A 2nd in 2012 and a 3rd in 2013 seems a bit much. But I guess that is the market. What does this mean that a player like Hal Gill or Pavel Kubina will cost?
I thought it was a little high, too
I would have thought that part of this would have been conditional, i.e. a 2nd-rounder, plus a 3rd only if Grossman signed an extension with Philly.
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too few sellers
in my opinion at the moment. Prices may come down, but I don’t expect by much
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by Shawn Kehoe on Feb 16, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
off-topic rant
What’s this NHLN channel about (NHL Network)? Having shelled out the money for Center Ice, I though I’d be able to watch any game. Couldn’t find the Hawks-Rangers game, and looked it up to find that it’s on NHLN. Isn’t the reason for getting Center Ice so you have access to any game? How long has NHLN been around?
Grr…
In the long run, you’ll be happy (I think). Center Ice doesn’t work when your team is playing in your town. For me, that’s means when the Preds are in Phoenix, I’m pretty much toast because local TV doesn’t care. The other black-out is when your game is the featured game of the night and it ships off to NHL Network. Watching Preds hockey, how often does that happen? I realized it when the Preds were the only Sunday game before the winter classic.
NHLN on Center Ice
for Dish Network it was on 625.
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by Shawn Kehoe on Feb 16, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
What do we do with a winger even if we get one?
It just occurred to me and has nothing to do with these players but…. we have the Fisher line locked in, but Legwand is used in the playoffs as a shutdown center with two very responsible wingers like Joel Ward last year. With Smith and Wilson rising as offensive weapons, does that mean they would be paired on the third line with a scoring winger (should we get one or hornqvist if not) as a line that faces softer matchups defensively? Wilson wasn’t exactly the paradigm of trust for our own zone last year, so would Trotz group Smith and Wilson on a second scoring line and use Legwand on a 3rd/shutdown line? Maybe with Halishuck and Spaling? That’d leave Tootoo/Bourque/Yip/Smithson to fill out the roster. Or am I making this up and we’ll keep rolling the same lines we have now, new forward or not?
I would lean towards...
one or more of those wingers being moved at the the deadline if we are acquiring real talent or sending somebody down to the AHL….. Smith is sporting brick hands for a while now and Trotz is one of the reasons Legwand is so responsible because of the way he handles rookies….sooooo….draw a conclusion, its likely to be better than mine.
my guess would be Borque is sent back down… unless someone gets sent the other way. And I’d imagine Hornqvist would be relegated to 3rd line minutes to make space. He’s more of a PP specialist anyway.
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by Shawn Kehoe on Feb 16, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Man... well so much for hoping that the Islanders were gonna have a good night.
St. Louis is beating them 5-1 right now, going into the 3rd. Yipes.
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I dunno... I was kinda disappointed to see NYR take the night off though, lol.
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apparently they found Biron's cryptonite
the five hole….i think every goal went five hole on him
by Herzausstein on Feb 16, 2012 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
At least they waited until after we played them.
Beer... Now there's a temporary solution.-Homer Simpson
Meanwhile, on the home front....
The sound of crickets is deafening.
I knoooooow.
I hate having 2 days off.
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Huh, I just clicked on your profile pic for the first time and realized we went to the same high school. I think you were a year behind me.
by TNBlueDevil on Feb 16, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Oh really?? That’s funny! I graduated in ’07.
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Yep, I graduated in 06. And then went to Duke, as my user name kinda hints at lol.
by TNBlueDevil on Feb 16, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
I figured that was a Duke reference… hmm. Okay, well now I’ve gotta figure out who you are. Good thing we went to a small school, haha!
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Haha true, shouldn’t be too hard. I was the last speaker at graduation, if that helps.
by TNBlueDevil on Feb 16, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve never actually wished I had my yearbooks with me before! I feel like I have an idea, but my memory is so hazy after 6 years… I can’t believe I even remember some of the names that are popping up, haha. Are you in law school, by any chance? (I just asked a friend I still keep up with from your class lol.)
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Haha I am in law school. Sounds like you’re on the right track lol.
by TNBlueDevil on Feb 16, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
You got it. Makes it a pain in the ass to get to games. I’m coming back for the Sharks game next weekend though.
by TNBlueDevil on Feb 16, 2012 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, I am SERIOUSLY impressed with myself right now. I got it on my first guess. But yeah, I can imagine that would be a pain. I’m at Tufts up in Boston right now, so that’s almost even harder. I got to go to the Bruins/Preds game last weekend though, so that was fun!
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That’s pretty awesome, would’ve been even better if we’d held on in regulation! What kind of grad school are you doing?
by TNBlueDevil on Feb 16, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I know. It was a fun game, though. It was my roommate’s second NHL game ever, so she had a great time. I’m in a child development program, and I’m focusing on twice exceptional kids (learning difference + gifted). Right now it’s just classroom/educational therapy based stuff, but I’m really interested in the neurology behind TwEx. What kind of law are you doing?
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Sounds pretty interesting. I’ve been doing environmental, but now I’m kinda shifting toward copyright/entertainment. Honestly, I could see myself doing pretty much anything besides tax or criminal defense lol.
by TNBlueDevil on Feb 16, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
Cool. One of my friends (the one from your class) is at UVM for environmental law. I’ve never really found law all that interesting, but the criminal stuff always looks fun on all the TV shows lol. Nice to have a range of interests within the discipline though.
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I just Googled TwEx, and urbandictionary says it’s Twitter Sex. : D
by LuvthePreds on Feb 17, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
I retweeted this one girl tonight
60% of the time it works every time
by Creeping Death on Feb 17, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
HAHAHA
I just made up “TwEx” in the moment! Who’da thunk Twitter Sex was a thing.
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Random aside: The Tufts Beezlebubs are awesome (a cappella group)
"We want to keep beating them...to break their pride and break their season...is a huge thing for us." - David Legwand
You know, this is the second time someone has mentioned this to me! Apparently I should go see them!
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Memories! I remember high school… about 4,000 years ago.
Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.
Did you have to walk 5 miles, up-hill both ways, to get there??
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Admittedly, I had to Google that.
You were stylin’.
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yes, awesome, isn’t it???
they were famous for the floorboards pretty must rusting into disintegration, so I had to play Fred Flintstone near the end of the car’s life.
Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.
and very sad you had to Google that! what was your first car?
Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.
HAH, I had a Honda Odyssey….. minivan!
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hahahahaha! sad enough… I now drive a minivan, a Town and Country. Gotta get the chitlins to school/soccer and all.
Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.
Yep, mine held all my hockey crap! And the hockey crap of all the people I drove with to various travel hockey destinations. I think we got 7-8 bags and 7 people in there once. It was pretty impressive.
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Must have smelled horrible.
World Wide Weber.
There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
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I cleaned it out pretty regularly.
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by davisca on Feb 17, 2012 2:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Absolutely. That was painful.
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by davisca on Feb 17, 2012 2:11 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think these trades unfortunately set the bar for trade values, which I believe both teams overpaid a little bit.
Which I hope that means Hal “Glacier” Gill is put out of reach.
It’s going to take a LOT to get a quality scorer now, unless Radulov does a magic trick anytime soon.
Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.
I like how Creeping put it:
“Rads: Best urban legend EVER.”
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I feel honored!!
60% of the time it works every time
by Creeping Death on Feb 17, 2012 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
Oh I don’t think he’s ever coming back, but if he did I would welcome him back with open arms and a bottle of wodka.
Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.
by djzielin on Feb 17, 2012 8:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If this Grabovski stuff is true, why not? Burke can’t be trusted for **** but if it is a 2nd rounder and a prospect for a career + center that can contribute offensively….why not? I’d much rather have him down the middle than say oh I don’t know Smithson.
Oh man...
This may have been linked and I just missed it (probably was), but if you haven’t seen this video, check it out. It’s the GnashVegas Gala Ball. Most notably, Colin Wilson sings “Save a Horse, Ride a Cowboy”, and Tits sticks a beer bottle in Rinne’s face during an interview. Also, check out the beard on the man hanging out with Kevin Klein. HOLY COW.
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Well I am not 16,000 years old like that gentleman in the photo.
Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.
by djzielin on Feb 17, 2012 2:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
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