Hal Gill traded to Nashville Predators for Blake Geoffrion, prospect & pick
by Dirk Hoag on Feb 17, 2012 2:25 PM EST
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PrintThe Nashville Predators have jumped into the NHL trade market in a big way, landing giant defenseman Hal Gill from the Montreal Canadiens, but the price will strike many as pretty dear. Cue Josh Cooper of the Tennessean, and ESPN's Pierre LeBrun with a clarification:
#preds trade for Hal Gill. Give up Geoffrion, Slaney and a 2nd round pick in 2012. #preds also get a conditional 5th rounder.
— JoshuaCooper (@JoshuaCooper) February 17, 2012
If Geoffrion gets 40 gp in Montreal next year, Nashville gets that fifth-round pick. If he doesn't play in that many games, no pick for Nash
— Pierre LeBrun (@Real_ESPNLeBrun) February 17, 2012
Earlier this month, we speculated on the possibility of picking up Gill to add size, strength and experience to the left side of the Nashville blueline, and this move shores up that group pretty well.
What Hal Gill Would Bring To The Predators
For one thing, there would finally be someone in the locker room who could look down at the goalies.
Mostly, however, Gill brings a massive physical presence, which would be well suited to playing stay-at-home hockey supporting one of the young guns like Josi or Ellis, while taking some of the penalty killing burden off of Weber & Suter. Gill currently leads Montreal in shorthanded ice time per game, and they've got one of the better units in the league, so he can be relied upon in that sort of specialist role.
He's not an offensive force, but that's something the young guys are doing rather well already (especially Josi on the power play).
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With Gill's experience (including a Stanley Cup in 2009 with Pittsburgh), I'd go with a 2nd-round pick. If a bidding war gets going, it may be worth throwing in a minor prospect as well.
The price here is a little higher than I projected, but within reason. I'm not sure how much of an NHL upside Blake has, and Robert Slaney wasn't really on a track to the big leagues, certainly not with the crop of defensemen the Preds have developing already.
Bye Bye, Boomer
Many fans, however, will be upset to see Blake Geoffrion heading out of the organization. As the homegrown kid who made it to the NHL, he will always enjoy a prominent spot in Nashville Predators history, but this season hasn't worked out well for him. After a splash during last season's stretch drive, he could never get on track at the NHL level this time around and has played mostly with Milwaukee. I have to wonder if his name and pedigree hold special value to the Canadiens organization, and obviously we all wish Boomer the best of luck.
As a parting tribute to Blake, let's recall his incredible hat trick last March in Buffalo, which helped ignite the Preds' run to the playoffs:
An excerpt from the Preds' press release follows:
Nashville Predators President of Hockey Operations/General Manager David Poile announced today that the club has acquired veteran defenseman Hal Gill and a conditional fifth-round pick in the 2013 Entry Draft from Montreal in exchange for a second-round pick in the 2012 Entry Draft and forwards Blake Geoffrion and Robert Slaney. He is expected to meet the team today in Detroit.
"Hal Gill brings our team a number of elements - size, penalty-killing ability, depth on defense and playoff experience," Poile said. "He has won a Stanley Cup and played a combined 69 playoff games over the last four years, experience that significantly benefits our team."
Gill, 36 (4/6/75), has suited up for 1,047 regular-season games (36g-143a-179pts, 940 PIMs) and 105 playoff contests (0g-6a-6pts, 68 PIMs) since 1997-98 - more than any player currently on the Predators roster. He appeared in back-to-back Stanley Cup Finals in 2008 and 2009 with Pittsburgh, winning the Cup in 2009. One of the League's tallest players at 6-7, 240 pounds, Gill has eight points (1g-7a) and 29 penalty minutes thus far in 2011-12 playing in his third season with the Canadiens.
The Concord, Mass., native was drafted 207th overall (eighth round) by Boston in the 1993 Entry Draft, and played eight seasons with the Bruins (1997-2006) before stints in Toronto and (2006-08) Pittsburgh (2007-09).
The Predators now have eight draft picks for the 2012 NHL Entry Draft to be held June 22-23, 2012 at Consol Energy Center in Pittsburgh, Pa. - their own picks in the first, and fourth through seventh rounds, in addition Toronto's third-round pick, Phoenix's fourth rounder and the New York Rangers' sixth-round selection.
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Helps the Habs
whose fans see who Boom Boom in brass when they walk in the door and learn about Howie Morenz in their hockey history books.
by Hockey Hillbilly on Feb 17, 2012 2:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
And...
it puts someone in the Predators lineup who has actually won a Stanley Cup.
by Hockey Hillbilly on Feb 17, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Lot of good that did for us with Arnott
by Broadwaybully on Feb 17, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think we’re a different team than we were with Isnott… we actually have power and potential now. We didn’t back then… not really, at least. I would have been shocked if we won a playoff series back then. I won’t be surprised if we get past the second round this year.
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Isnott?
LOL, I like it :)
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 17, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks, haha! I stole that from someone else, but I can’t remember who.
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Whoever it is, that is pure GENIUS!
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 17, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
agreed, just sayin.
the defensive depth and size Gill adds are undeniable, but I don’t see the inherent value of his Cup experience the same way.
Liked Geoffrion, but I’m fine with this move… As long as it’s not the only one — we need help on the attack way more than on the blueline, IMHO.
by Broadwaybully on Feb 17, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
I guess another good example, then, would be Fisher. He didn’t win a cup, but he got to the finals.
I don’t totally understand how the experience thing plays out, but based on how much coaches/GMs/players/etc. talk about the importance of post-season experience, I figure it’s probably pretty damn important.
Anyway, hopefully offense is next!
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Postseasons in general
Are just a different animal from a regular season. An 82-game schedule is a long-distance run. First to 16 wins is much more of a sprint.
Teams are always looking for guys who can give leadership experience in the locker room to help younger guys. Individual players have to find a way to take their game to the next level, and a guy who has been there can help with that process.
Plus, a steady veteran voice means that losing 2 games in a row isn’t the downfall of the team. It’s hard to remain an even keel team when adversity strikes in high-pressure situations.
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This^
Everyone seems to forget that the Preds have the youngest team (tied for actually)in the NHL. ANY post-season experience is a huge plus for these guys.
by TitanPredBearFan on Feb 17, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
I heard the other day that the last team to win the cup with no previous Stanley Cup winners on the roster was the 1989 Calgary Flames. So having someone on the roster who has been there before is probably worth something.
Hear hear!
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by davisca on Feb 17, 2012 5:20 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
All Gill has to do to be better than Amnott is to give a flying rip.
by Hockey Hillbilly on Feb 17, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
Hal Gill is a pylon.
Not worth the 2nd round pick, much less add-ons. This is awful.
Wouldn’t have thought Poile would give up Geoffrion for a rental in Hal Gill. Surprising to say the least. I suppose this frees up some money to re-sign Suter/Weber?
I'm not really surprised...
We’ve known for a long time that Montreal has wanted the “whole collection” of Geoffrion’s… I figured GMDP didn’t want to give Bam Bam up, but if it was a trade with Montreal, Bam would leave.
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Don’t think it’s about $$ right now, either. I’ve gotten the impression that the Suter/Weber $$ is accounted for.
R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
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"I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber
Holy Cow...
Little expensive for a rental, but I think the Preds definitely need one more experienced D-man if they’re going to seriously contend. Geoffrion was quickly falling down our system’s ladder of prospects, and I for one didn’t think he was going to make it back up considering how he played earlier this year.
Geoffrion was a 2nd round pick.
And we’re giving up another second round pick. Wouldn’t a second round pick be enough for this rental? What would the Canadiens do with Geoffrion? Can someone explain this?!
Ans there goes our last asset of the Franson/Lombardi deal. LOL
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I understand a Geoffrion goes back to Montreal but did we really need to give The hand a 2nd round pick? Couldn’t they had given a later round pick or no pick at all? We could’ve given them the next Weber! Which we might need!
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by preds4ever on Feb 17, 2012 3:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thin we needed another big D man
He’s shore up our defense and add size. Hate that we had to lose Geoff to get him but like everyone is saying, he was moving down our prospects ladder quickly.
Definetly overpaid for Gill, he was worth a second round pick and got Geoffrion thrown in. That being said, living in Montreal I can tell you he’s a great player. Phenomonal on the PK and a good team leader. He looks slow during the season but is a machine in the playoffs where they let a little more grabbing/pushing go. He’s gonna be solid in the postseason for the Peds, dont forget he shut down Ovechkin and Crosby 2 years ago
Jeez, everyone wanted a trade...now the terms suck
Seriously, the cost is going to be high. I think we all expected that. Slaney is career minor leaguer and well, Bam-Bam has fallen a looonng way since his hat trick.
PK is what we need, and we got it now. And hell, Gill might even be re-signed for as cheap as he is ($2.25mil).
"We want to keep beating them...to break their pride and break their season...is a huge thing for us." - David Legwand
Seller's market.
Completely fair given the atmosphere, probably got away with him a little bit cheaper only because of the Geoffrion lineage.
I keep reading about other teams looking for the same thing, not only does it give us an edge we need, it limits the choices of other trade line buyers.
We'll miss you Belak...
Go Predators!
It’s getting a bit schizophrenic around here. Go for it! Wait no, that’s too expensive!
Expensive is a relative term. It’s only expensive if there’s something out there that meets your needs for less. And Obie isn’t coming back.
R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
I liked the Jeremy Lin story the first time when it was called the Martin St. Louis story.--@BoltProspects
"I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber
thats the price u pay to make a cup run...
Geoffrion he was looking like he woul d be buried in Milwaukee for a while, Slaney who? The pick is the one thing thats a little harder to swallow, but we do get a conditional pick back.
It seems that Poile can never win with u ppl. One minute u are whining that DP doesn’t do enough, the next minute you’re bellyaching when he does do something…stop whining.
I for one like that we got Gill. We needed someone for the second PK unit and someone to keep Cube and Hillen in the pressbox. We got that in Gill. Now time to get some scoring help!
by JBoogie22 on Feb 17, 2012 2:44 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Did you forget about Franson/Lombardi? I understand he is a much heralded GM and I’ve seen some great stuff from him and appreciate him. I dunno it might be a blessing in surprise but I’d rather have Franson than Gill.
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by preds4ever on Feb 17, 2012 3:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Gill is a big body. There’s something to say for having a big body on D (see: SHANE O’BRIEN).
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I would’ve been okay with O’Brien for a lesser price.
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by preds4ever on Feb 17, 2012 3:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i understand what u are saying about Franson
But he’s still a prospect, and thats not what we need at the stage, we need a vet stay at home dman, Fruit Cup is neither of those things. We all know defense was not his strongest suit
by JBoogie22 on Feb 17, 2012 3:44 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
And, honestly, having watched the Tampa Bay Lightning push Cody Franson around for a couple of games, I’m really not all that fussed about losing him.
R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
I liked the Jeremy Lin story the first time when it was called the Martin St. Louis story.--@BoltProspects
"I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber
how?
He has yet to keep a starting spot on an NHL team…
by JBoogie22 on Feb 17, 2012 5:33 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
He has 184 NHL games in 2-1/2 years: 61 (09-10) and 80 (10-11) here and 43 in Toronto. He hasn’t played in the AHL since 09-10. He’s also playing 16 minutes a game up there. He’s not a prospect anymore.
R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
I liked the Jeremy Lin story the first time when it was called the Martin St. Louis story.--@BoltProspects
"I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber
THANK YOU, Boogie.
We got one of the pieces that we needed. The pick was kinda crappy to give up, but we KNEW we were going to overpay! It’s nearing the end of the trade dead-line!
I’m happy with the Gill trade, and am THRILLED to have a big guy in front of Pekka. Now it’s time for the offense to get filled up! GO, GMDP, GO!
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by davisca on Feb 17, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
+1
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 17, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
agreed & +1
Pekka really needed someone to work over the bodies in the crease.
by Only Fan In J.C. ? on Feb 17, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno one way or the other about Gill specifically,
But I like the intent here. Bolster the defense, add some experience, throw in some size.
(And YES, the defense needed some help, if anyone still doubts that. Preds have given up more goals than any other playoff team in the West, save Chicago, and have a not-so-great PK.)
On paper, I like it. Let’s hope that what Gill brings will fit the bill on the ice, though, because that’s where the games are played.
Still wondering when SK74's shooting % will cease to be "A fluke".
In terms of the Franson/Lombardi trade
I think the main thing we got out that trade was over $4 million in cap space…
As for this trade, it does seem kind of expensive. That being said, Gill brings not only size and strength but also experience, something this team is lacking. Somewhere in between “meh” and “thumbs up.”
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"Jersey Shore: Lake Erie Edition"
Cleveland Rocks!
That’s where I fall as well. It’s a calculated move by Poile, targeted to fill a need. It doesn’t mean he’s finished making moves, either.
Cap space doesnt mean spit unless it is
SPENT!
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by preds4ever on Feb 17, 2012 3:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Is he?
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by preds4ever on Feb 17, 2012 3:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe I should have said that differently.
What I mean is that he has demonstrated an interest in spending. He got Gill, didn’t he? Not a huge salary necessarily, but filled a big need. Plus, who’s to say that he’s not saving up for a BIG spending-spree on someone soon? I honestly think he will do it — or at the very least, will try his damnedest. It’s slim pickins, but he’s getting us what we need (and what Sutber wants).
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Who cares what Sutber wants!
Hehe.
World Wide Weber.
There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
~Joe Strummer
Agreed!
Let’s jut get Nash and Carter and call up the junior preds! :)
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by preds4ever on Feb 17, 2012 3:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was just making fun of your typo.
World Wide Weber.
There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
~Joe Strummer
Oh, no that was supposed to be Sutber… it’s a combination of "Sut"er and We"ber"
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If they both leave, we can rename them Ace and Gary!
by buckeye_jg on Feb 17, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Ambiguously Gay Duo
From the old TV Funhouse on SNL.
by Old Kentucky Shark on Feb 17, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
What you did there.....
….I see it…
by JBoogie22 on Feb 17, 2012 3:54 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
It’s faster than writing “Weber and Suter” every time. Sutber! Simple and easy.
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That was a very “sutable” joke.
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by davisca on Feb 17, 2012 5:14 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
On Nashville's website.
“He is expected to meet the team today in Detroit”
Thanks for the update!
Prob tough to get acclimated to a system in less than 12 hours
I think so. It was tweeted he would arrive in DET around 5pm, but since they already have a full roster, he’ll sit in the pressbox and observe, and play DAL on Sunday.
Confirmed by the Tom Callahan article:
Gill will not play tonight against Detroit but will be at the game.
Trading away Geoffrion? For the love, Poile, are you out of your mind? This team’s only going to get so many chances to put a hometown native in uniform and will almost certainly be Poile’s only chance. Nothing else was going to make Canadiens happy?
This doesn't make any sense
I’m a Flyers fan living in TN, and I don’t get it. At all.
Giving up on Blake is stupid. He was worth $$$$$ just for the PR in Nashville.
Hal Gill is a pylon. And a rental. And the Preds need offense.
Had this been Slaney and a 2nd for Carter, that would have been interesting.
The only thing that makes sense to me is that this would be a prelude to a Suter trade. Suter for Nash, anyone?
Otherwise, Poile has lost his mind.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
by Bud in TN on Feb 17, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think we underestimate the general acceptance of this team in Nashville.
Blake was great and maybe he’ll be back on day, but he’s doing us no good on the ice or for PR sitting in Milwaukee right now.
We'll miss you Belak...
Go Predators!
I think you overestimate the actual percentage. And, especially, the continuing need for corporate interest.
I’m not saying Blake was “great”. But this move seems unbelievably premature, and would have been even for an offensive player. But for Hal Gill?????
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
Sorry but Blake in MIL > Gill in your team’s lineup on a nightly basis
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
yeh don't know what's up with him this year
but his value around here has certainly dropped quick
by Herzausstein on Feb 17, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
You haven’t seen Gill play in the past three seasons … and YOU THREW IN A SECOND ROUND PICK, FOR FRIGGIN’ SAKE!
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
Actually I have watched him play. We needed a veteran, bottom four, defender who could play the kill. To get that player we gave up a second this year, a bottom 6 AHL forward who is struggling, and a player splitting time between the ECHL and AHL.
all in all i don't think it's a bad trade
ppl keep thinking of the boomer that played last year with the preds….same person ….just not the same player
by Herzausstein on Feb 17, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention that this is one of the least-deep ho-hum drafts in a while. This year’s picks would be the best ones to give up, especially if it fills a huge void for a Cup run.
by TitanPredBearFan on Feb 17, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
haven't heard anything about the upcoming draft class
does it look pathetic?
by Herzausstein on Feb 17, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
A few elite guys at the top
but not much forward depth and an average D class.
by TitanPredBearFan on Feb 17, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
so columbus and carolina will get the good ones?
by Herzausstein on Feb 17, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
You've seen the "Fail for Nail" signatures?
That’s who those guys are looking for
by TitanPredBearFan on Feb 17, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Aaaah.... so that's what that's about.
I guessed, but wasn’t sure.
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It’s got a pretty steep drop off after those who are likely to be first rounders. And a lot more d-men in the very top than usual.
R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
I liked the Jeremy Lin story the first time when it was called the Martin St. Louis story.--@BoltProspects
"I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber
Webs and Sutes
If the move keeps Weber and Suter here, it’ll be worth it. The locals know the teams superstars better than they do the prospects.
TN Sports fan in Hoosier Country....
Why would trading for Gill keep Weber and Suter in Nashville?
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
Helps them breathe underwater? Duh…
World Wide Weber.
There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
~Joe Strummer
by cisar on Feb 17, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Slowly starting to get pieces of the puzzle we need. No, he’s not an offensive powerhouse, but he saves us the fear of having an all-rookie-Ellis-Josi pairing during the playoffs…..
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and that is what is needed. These kids are young, young, young. They NEED someone who can show them how they must play to advance in the playoffs. If Poile thinks Gill is that person, then it’s ok by me.
"I am you, you are me, and we are all together" Beatles
Columbus isn’t trading Nash for someone who will leave after the season is over.
World Wide Weber.
There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
~Joe Strummer
+1
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 17, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
you need to have more realistic expectations
Nash is not going to be in a Preds uni anytime soon. The other places e will be going to are the 5 teams he said he would waive his NTC for…
by JBoogie22 on Feb 17, 2012 4:10 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I disagree. I live here and could care less if all our players are from Mars….as long as they win.
by buckeye_jg on Feb 17, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You are a big time fan. You post on this blog. Blake would be (would have been) for those who aren’t yet fans.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
I see your point, but I think winning puts more fans in the seats than homegrown players.
by buckeye_jg on Feb 17, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Abso-friggin-lutely
Most of my hockey ( I like hockey but know nothing about it) friends had no idea we even had a TN boy in the organization…all they care about is the “All we do is win, Win, WIN!” part of Predator hockey.
by TitanPredBearFan on Feb 17, 2012 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
And They Stay There!!!
(Just practicing for later tonight :)
by TitanPredBearFan on Feb 17, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
I think Mike Fisher is doing a better job of bringing in new clientele.
"We want to keep beating them...to break their pride and break their season...is a huge thing for us." - David Legwand
Point taken. But the Preds are selling an irreplaceable asset, even if that asset has lost some value. For Hal Gill.
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
The piece fits. Geoffrion will be missed, sure, if he plays well enough to get out of the AHL again.
"We want to keep beating them...to break their pride and break their season...is a huge thing for us." - David Legwand
AHL 3rd line forwards are replaceable assets no matter where they grew up or what their last name happens to be.
OK, this is new info. Sorry, i don’t follow Milwaukee (but do watch the Preds on TV). Was he really buried on the third line at Milwaukee? That’s quite a comedown from last season!
GMAT verbal section question, Philadelphia sports version.
In 2015, which one of the following will prove to be a better investment?
(a) Ilya Bryzgalov's contract (b) Ryan Howard's extension (c) Mike Vick's extension (d) Greek bonds from 2009 (e) Papelbon's bloat deal
He had ONE good game with the Preds last season @Buffalo and none in his time with the big club this season. 13 total goals as an Ad over two seasons with only two this season. Struggled in the two Ads games I saw last week … a lot of effort, little to show for it and looked bad in the process. He’s not close to ready for prime time.
so the 5th round conditional
doesn’t look like it’s gonna happen, does it?
by Only Fan In J.C. ? on Feb 17, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
idk
the Habs fans are poo pooing their team and seem to feel like he can come right in and play
hockey connoisseur. t-shirt addict. not famous. nerd.
hmmmm
i hope they’re ready for some dissappointment
by Herzausstein on Feb 17, 2012 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
We need to rec this green.
(I know you can’t cause you’re mobile.)
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Buyers Market
If you want someone you have to put up or shut up.
I think you mean a Sellers Market
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Mikael Granlund = Suomi Savior
No sweat
Easy mistake to make. Damn economy…
You know you're a Wild fan if Spam Whoopie Gerald-buns comes up in conversation
Mikael Granlund = Suomi Savior
I think you meant sellers market
Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.
by djzielin on Feb 17, 2012 2:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think you meant sellers market
Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.
by djzielin on Feb 17, 2012 2:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Is there an echo in here? ;)
"We want to keep beating them...to break their pride and break their season...is a huge thing for us." - David Legwand
Geoffrion’s family history with the Montreal Candiens will give him a bit of a buffer for getting to play on the NHL level however that may not last long if he does not play like Boom-Boom. this could be a double edge sword for him in his career But I wish Boomer good luck
Better
than watching the Preds in Hamilton!
????
I don’t know much about Hill but Geoffrion and a second seems like a lot for a rental and a defenseman past his prime.
I like this deal, its a bit expensive but that is the cost of business these days. Geoff didnt seem to be hitting his stride here and I think was bound to stay in Milwaukee for a good while. His performance the tail end of the year last year was nice but he has been passed over by several other prospects/youngsters have passed him by. Gil adds to a strength and takes away questions behind 20 & 6. Does he play 3rd pair minutes with Ellis or do we send Ellis down and play Frankie? I assume the former rather than the later.
by Joel Ward is my Homeboy on Feb 17, 2012 2:57 PM EST reply actions
Shortest d guy (ellis) paired with tallest (gill). So that 5’8" and 6’7" would that equal out to having two guys 6’3"? Lol
by Shadow23 on Feb 17, 2012 6:09 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
its gonna take a pant load to land Nash
if this is what it takes to land Gil. but Gil is great. somebody we sorely needed.
I like it, I love it, I want some more of it
Great addition. I think the Montreal PK is ranked #1 and he is leading short handed TOI. He’s on the slow side but has a great wingspan to make up for it. Definitely a playoff type of D-man we desperately need for a deep playoff run.
Bam Bam had his chances and others passed him by. Slaney…whatever.
Seems to be the market price for a rental…a 2nd rounder and a couple of throw-ins. The most important thing is, it fills a glaring need.
This is the market, I don’t think the price was that high. A playoff warrior with great size absolutely tons of experience, he’s a little slow but we have plenty of mobile defenseman. We needed size badly after Weber and Sites. And he will take some of those hard PK minutes off our top pairing. Considering where the Preds will finish it will be a low second pick, Geoffrion didn’t look like he was gonna be more than a 3rd or 4th liner (we have a ton of those), and Slaney isn’t much of a prospect. All in all in this market ill live with the price.
by hitmaneraser21 on Feb 17, 2012 2:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
ANother option
The poll needs another option. And that is “Thumbs Up, if it convinces Weber and Suter to stay”. That’s how I feel about this.
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Geoffrion’s PR value isn’t enough to overcome his inability to crack the Preds’ lineup and struggles in the AHL. Nice kid, nice story, but bad business to keep him.
The Grossman trade yesterday showed that this is an expensive trade deadline. We got a big guy with limited mobility who can kill penalties and brings experience and leadership. Our bottom two pairings needed a stay home type guy for balance and we get that with Gill.
Don’t know if you saw my post above, but your point that he was on the third line at Milwaukee (which I did not know) changes my impression of letting Blake go.
However, I still think most people on this blog are overvaluing Hal Gill. The Flyers needed a D and got Grossman from Dallas yesterday and the strong consensus at Broad Street Hockey is that Gill was not wanted. We saw him in the playoffs in 2010.
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He'll replace Hillen and/or Frankie
That’s an upgrade on our 3rd defense pair. I like Frankie and he’s had some good times with the Preds and he was really good. But since he came back from his concussion, he has NOT been the same player he once was. Gill will come in and be an excellent 3rd pairing defenseman and if need be 2nd pair Dman.
It’s not a sexy move, but one that was necessary to go deep in the playoffs IMO.
Good move for us. Then when Radulov comes back, we will be complete.
Yeah, I said that.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 17, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
RADS!
Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
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by davisca on Feb 17, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
YES!
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 17, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
So, it'd make a ton of sense for both sides:
Radulov finishes up in Russia. Then he comes and finishes the regular season with us and leads us to the Stanley Cup. That way….
1. He fulfills the final year of his contract with the Preds, and he can sign a better RFA deal in the offseason.
2. We don’t have to go out and overpay for a TOTALLY AWESOME FORWARD WHO CAN PUT THE PUCK IN THE FREAKIN’ NET.
3. We win the Cup.
4. Allegedly (check out this weeks City Paper article on Radulov) it was Isnott, Sullivan and JP who hated Radulov. Suter and Weber both were bffs with him. The old timers are all gone so he fits in with the team like a glove.
It makes all the sense in the world. I’m tellin’ ya!
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 17, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
KHL's Prez put the kabosh on that today.
@reporterchris: KHL President Medvedev says Alex Radulov has one more year on his contract in Russia and no out clause.
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Lies!
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 17, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
so we shouldn’t believe Rads and his agent either?
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Haters gonna hate..........
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 17, 2012 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Actually
Medvedev is quoted as saying that he’s ‘not aware’ of an out clause. That’s a lot different than an emphatic ‘he has no out clause.’ Apparently Radulov IS aware of it and so are the Preds. Of course they want Radulov to stay, he’s the league’s best player. What I’m hearing is that the Preds are in negotiations to not only get him back this season, but to extend his contract and placate the KHL so that they don’t raise a big fuss. His agent is a frequent visitor to the Preds offices these days.
I did ask some people who I hope know more then me at the Gala about the Radulov “situation” and they seem confident that he would not have to clear waivers to return during the season. I also asked, in their opinion if we would even want him back and they said basically “in a heartbeat”. Well, for what its worth……….
Radulov’s return to the NHL is going to be as ugly as his departure. The KHL is claiming he doesn’t have an out clause and his current contract was done after the anti-poaching agreement, coming back mid-season could bring the provisions of article 13.23 of the CBA into play ….. the joys of multiple legal documents and international agreements interacting.
LOL
Any agreement between the NHL and the KHL are hardly international relations. Don’t be a drama queen.
Just kidding……and I hope you’re WRONG!!!
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 17, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
This trade will keep Cube and Hillen off of our ice.
That alone is worth most of the price.
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by TCountyPred on Feb 17, 2012 3:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I like it
We got just what we needed in a big, rugged, stay at home D man. Boomer wasn’t going anywhere fast with us, and who cares about Slaney. I want to win this year because I think we can, and this move absolutely helps us do that
by Stu0624 on Feb 17, 2012 3:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
BOO! HISS! Tired of hearing the Flyers gave up too much for the younger Grossman, Can’t believe the Preds gave up THAT much for old, immobile, right-handed Hal Gill.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
All trades this time of year are overpayments. The kindest description of Grossman so far is a former coach referring to him as a “# 4” d-man. Gill’s skill set fits our needs … a PKer with size and experience.
exactly
we are in some need for a d-man with some size and experience
by Herzausstein on Feb 17, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Gill was awesome during the Hab’s run a couple years back he was all over Crosby and Ovechkin he was a big reason they won that series along with stellar goal tending. Not to mention the Pens cup run that he played a key cog in. He hasn’t got any faster but his penchant for blocking shots, clearing the crease, and being where he is supposed to be hasn’t changed. He is a massive upgrade on Hillen or Bouillon. He his no fun to play against, it may not be pretty but he gets the job done.
by hitmaneraser21 on Feb 17, 2012 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yes I have. Too many times. I’m also a Caps fan.
The teams that are buying are willing to overpay because they think they’re close. That’s us. We’re close. I still can’t believe that, looking at our roster, but here we are.
by el pucko on Feb 17, 2012 8:04 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Sad to see Geoffrion go
But I think we needed this help on the blueline.
I would’ve thought GMDP would have shipped Blum out, but I have a feeling he’s being saved for an even bigger trade for a top-6 forward; hence bringing in Gill first. There’s still a lot of time left before the deadline
by Old Kentucky Shark on Feb 17, 2012 3:33 PM EST reply actions
Okay okay
The shock is slowly wearing off.
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by preds4ever on Feb 17, 2012 3:34 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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awww that's so sad
that 9 game death march got them down
by Herzausstein on Feb 17, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Boo hoo. On second thought, just Boo.
by Hockey Hillbilly on Feb 17, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
I would, but they banned me.
LOL!
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 17, 2012 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
I'm ok with this...
If this is a piece that’lll legitimately help and could help us win thus keeping Suter and Weber happy, then I’m ok. Geoffrion surely wasn’t doing it for us this year. I love having the local angle but I do think some are really overestimating how important that is to filling our building. We’ve got a ways to go to sellout every night but we’re headed in the right direction and I don’t think the awesome atmosphere at our building has anything to do with the fact that we’ve got one local kid on the roster. Go Preds!!
by WestEndDynamite on Feb 17, 2012 3:42 PM EST reply actions
You are missing the point
Yeah, Geoffrion is gone. It was a high price, but we need the size. Here’s the rub. Suter is getting prepared for a trade. Everyone sell your #20 jerseys now, because he will be leaving us soon, if not today.
by james.summerlin on Feb 17, 2012 3:48 PM EST reply actions
Cup run bro.
Suter ain’t going anywhere. And there’s a good chance we’ll lose him in the offseason, but that doesn’t matter right now……..
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 17, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think they trade Suter
I think they bring in Gill to bolster the defense, then trade Blum, Josi, or Ellis for a forward.
by Old Kentucky Shark on Feb 17, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
with how much d and goalie prospects we have and with lindy's numbers not being to great
i forsee if we trade it’d be blum, lindy and some picks
by Herzausstein on Feb 17, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Probably
But I wouldn’t rule Ellis or Josi out of the picture either. It could get really pricey.
by Old Kentucky Shark on Feb 17, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
No way in hell Suter goes anywhere. We are rolling the dice and going for it I have a feeling. We may have to lose Suter’s rights this summer for a bag of pucks and a smile but at this point I say NO GUTS, NO GLORY!
by TitanPredBearFan on Feb 17, 2012 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
better to say that you went for it and failed
then you were too big of a wuss to try
by Herzausstein on Feb 17, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
A Suter Trade Implies Guts
I don’t want Suter to go anywhere, but why are we adding a veteran defenseman. There is no evidence with this trade that he his staying. It goes the other way. Gill would add depth if Suter were to leave. I agree Gill is better than Hillen, but this trade sets up for the possibility.
A trade with Suter would give offensive power you need for the cup run. Saying “We are going for the Cup” doesn’t negate my argument that Suter will be trade. It’s a non-statement.
by james.summerlin on Feb 17, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
Suter>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> x 1,000,000 Gill
In no way does this set-up a Suter trade. We don’t make a cup run without both Suter and Weber…period. I’m seriously begining to think you are trolling here dude.
by TitanPredBearFan on Feb 17, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
Not trolling, just concerned
Let me clarify. I AGREE WITH ALL OF YOU THAT SUTER SHOULD STAY IN NASHVILLE! TRADING HIM WOULD BE A STUPID MOVE!
Now that I have gotten that off my chest, I will continue.
I think the front offices are looking at how Webs and Sutes have played without their dance partners. Suter is the better player, but when he was injured, the Predators did not skip a beat and they continued their winning streak. When Weber was out, they played half as well.
My overall point is this move looks like a set-up for a second move. It doesn’t really solve any issues except depth at defense.
But from a business perspective, they may not want to pay Sutes what he will want in the offseason. The biggest crime in the Suter negotiation is letting him walk. I think management is a little scared and they will get someone to pay top dollar for him.
I never said I want Suter to go. I’m looking at it from a realistic perspective. No Nashville fan wants him to go. But Nashville fans should realize the possibilty
Now after saying why I fear Suter is leaving, let me say this one more time.
IF SUTER IS TRADED, IT WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE TEAM. I DON’T WANT THIS TO HAPPEN.
Now….please continue.
by james.summerlin on Feb 17, 2012 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
I just don't see him being traded as realistic in any way, shape, or form.
They just spent a ton to get a rental, they’re clearly looking for success in the now. Suter is going to be a key to that success. It doesn’t make any sense to trade him at this point for what would be a lateral move at best. So you get a top 6 forward for him, but then you’re severely weakend on D. It’s not a way to win in the now. If you trade him for prospects, etc. then it’s definitely not a way to win in the now.
Gill was a depth move to send some of our young D out for a forward, not a precursor to a Suter trade.
by Old Kentucky Shark on Feb 17, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention
Gill is also going to be a UFA at the end of this season.
Replacing Suter with Gill only makes sense if the latter had a long-term contract to take Suter’s place in future seasons as well.
by Old Kentucky Shark on Feb 17, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...but
I never said Gill is replacing Suter. I said the trade looks to set another trade up. That trade could consist of mulitiple long term contracts in place of suter.
Someone tweeted this.
Preds Fans: “This means Suter and Weber are staying forever!”
Every other team: “Where is Suter going?”
Everyone is only looking at this specific trade, but not what it sets up. Of course you don’t replace Gill with Suter. No one is saying that. What the Gill trade does is give you an avenue to make a blockbuster deal for a top six forward and defenseman.
I will end with this. Only Predator fans believe this means Suter is staying. Let’s be realistic. Suter could leave. It would suck for Nashville. It is a bad move for Nashville. But this trade by itself does not make sense. There will be another move in the future.
In conclusion, Gill coming to Nashville is a set-up move for SOMETHING.
by james.summerlin on Feb 17, 2012 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
this doesn't make us believe he's staying
but it doesn’t mean that he’s leaving either…. we realize the lack of depth in our blueline and we see this as a descent fix whereas other teams don’t pay a lick of attention to us and just want to see suter leave
by Herzausstein on Feb 17, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
There’s not a strong sentiment on this particular blog that this means FOR SURE that Suter is staying. And Poile has said he’s not done—that he’s still looking. It does, however, mean that the team is willing to give up assets they haven’t been willing to give up in past years.
Also, all of those "every other team’ fans have been saying that Suter (or Weber or Rinne) were out of here since last summer. You can’t base your analysis on that.
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people keep thinking of the preds from last year
where we more defensively strong but weak in scoring…. i believe poile is doing his best to get something done… i think this is a good start but we still need a lil more
by Herzausstein on Feb 17, 2012 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. This trade shores up a very specific hole without giving up a roster player. It’s very much short term, and it doesn’t put the team over the top.
And I definitely believe that Poile’s got feelers out. Whether that comes to anything is a whole separate question.
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hehe....
poile with literal feelers …. gave me a funny picture in my head
by Herzausstein on Feb 17, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
So one fan posts Suter is staying forever and it equates to the entire Pred faithful…..
I’ll end with this….only non Pred fans would take one post and come to your conclusion.
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by Predator Don on Feb 17, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
for once can poile make a move without it directly involving speculation about suter???
Poile made the move for obvious holes in the roster, it has nothing to do with Suter’s ongoing contract negotiations…
by JBoogie22 on Feb 17, 2012 5:40 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm not saying Suter will or won't be staying after the season ends
I’m not even saying this trade isn’t going to set up another trade.
What I am saying, is that this trade is assuredly not setting up a trade involving Suter. It’s completely illogical that Suter leaves in a trade after this. He’s either leaving in free agency or staying with the team.
by Old Kentucky Shark on Feb 17, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
he's a UFA after this year, so im not sure this is a move they would make if they werent confident about keeping suter
And this does solve some issues, we have some one to take some PK minutes, someone to provide some d along side our young dman. I think suter’s still very resignable, and this might have tipped the scales in our favor…
by JBoogie22 on Feb 17, 2012 4:41 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hey, nobody knows what Poile is gonna do with Suter
Maybe this dude is right. But I just don’t agree that making a trade for Gill in any way implies that we’re gonna deal Suter. Gill fits a need for us as a 2/3 D pairing.
And if we lose Suter it frees up $7M for us, and I’m sure we can get another guy just as good for that. Like Parise or the like.
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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 17, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
If we go anywhere this spring
It’s because Suter is on the ice.
Bruins fan coming over to offer condolences for your recent acquisition, the HMS Hal Gill
In all seriousness, not a bad pickup considering it will take some heat off your big two D, especially on the PK. Looking forward to watching you guys in the playoffs. I don’t think you’re going to let in any goals
In even more seriousness, Hal Gill sucks.
I stand with Tuukka Rask in his fight for the starting job
Tom Servo AND hypnotoad? Nice.
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Hal Gill will SAVE this franchise … much like the Bruins couldn’t have won the Cup last year without Tomas Kaberle.
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well, he’ll improve your powerplay about as well as Kaberle did…
I stand with Tuukka Rask in his fight for the starting job
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I stand with Tuukka Rask in his fight for the starting job
by TomServo42 on Feb 17, 2012 4:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Good thing we brought him in for the PK, then.
And to play on the second D pairing rather than the top.
by Old Kentucky Shark on Feb 17, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
improve the Powerful Powerplay? now that’s a scary and delightful thought ;-)
by Only Fan In J.C. ? on Feb 17, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
This is a move someone fighting for the cup makes!
As far as Hal Gill—I love his size, experience, and PK ability. The price at first glance may seem high…but there really wasn’t a place on this team for Geoffrion, and I don’t know enough about Slaney to be upset. I see him being paired with Ellis on 5 on 5 play, this would allow Ellis to activate more while a HUGE stay-at-home defensemen can have his back. Gill then pairs with Klein on the 2nd PK unit, which give us 2 really strong PK defensive pairings. I like it. On the down side, it is not the move that makes Suter pick up the phone and tell his agent he is ready to sign.
Bruce
this is the same thing i see happening
just wondering if they are going to actually sit the Cube in favor of ellis
by Herzausstein on Feb 17, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Necessary...
growing up playing hockey in Nashville, it was always cool watching someone from my town play in the NHL. I think the move is good for the team, but wish we could’ve let someone else go. We’ll just need to draft Wells out of Providence to be the next Rinne…
by 6fifteen hockey on Feb 17, 2012 4:00 PM EST reply actions
Ya man I grew up in the NYHL too and it was awesome to see him on the ice, but if I had to pick a good place for him to go it’d be Montreal. My main complaint with this move is we always seem to be trying to address size on defense. Eventually we need to find a younger big body to be a piece of this team moving forward as opposed to a rental. Thats why I was so disappointed when O’Brien left- he’s a capable player who brings something to the table that we can’t replace
For my friends in Nashville not familiar with Gill, he skates like a newborn giraffe walks.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
So did Franson….and Arnott.
We know how to work with large slow safari animals…we got this.
by TitanPredBearFan on Feb 17, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
omg
We know how to work with large slow safari animals…we got this.
lol hahahaha
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I really hope this works out for the Preds – I really do – but I don’t see what adding a poor skating, right-handed defenseman does to improve your team.
Lifelong Tennessean, Flyers' fan for life
our PK has uncharacteristically sucked
it takes some pressure off suter and weber with another veteran d man behind them that has some size and won’t get thrown around….
by Herzausstein on Feb 17, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
letting Suter and Weber have a breather for some of the PK during a long series will be a boon. This trade to me is only partially about the guy coming in. It’s about getting optimal performance out of what you have
I stand with Tuukka Rask in his fight for the starting job
i see him as an asset that allow ellis or josi to be more free to move the puck
by Herzausstein on Feb 17, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
I'm guessing you haven't seen the Lollypop Guild
we have currently on our 3rd pairing? THAT’S what Gill is for…size and strength instead of being thrown around like a rag-doll in our own zone.
by TitanPredBearFan on Feb 17, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
so does horny
ture, but in Hornqvist’s defense, his skating has improved a lot this year over last year.
by Only Fan In J.C. ? on Feb 17, 2012 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOO
I liked Geoffrion. I still think in time he could develop into a fisher type player.
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by flyalder on Feb 17, 2012 4:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Doesn't matter how many Stanley Cups Gill has won...
only matters what he can do for the team going forward.
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by ThrashersRecaps on Feb 17, 2012 4:08 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, the Cup-experience thing is overrated. Lest everyone forget Lebda won a Cup too!
"We want to keep beating them...to break their pride and break their season...is a huge thing for us." - David Legwand
It’s overrated when you have a bevy of playoff experienced players, but we are the youngest team in the NHL and don’t have that luxury. We seemed to be on a honeymoon with our first round win last year- but theres three more rounds to a championship. That being said, its not the winning the cup thats important- its the making several playoff runs and really having a depth of knowledge about result versus the mental approaches in several situations. However, I do think even this type of experience is overrated coming from a rental player. We need to add a guy with this type of experience earlier in the season so that he really has people’s ear and is apart of the leadership core of the team. Getting him before the deadline I think would put him too far on the outside of being one of the team’s true leaders
I screamed in excitement seeing this on Facebook...Hal Gill traded to Montreal
Then I read what we gave up for him…
Overall, I think we need this asset, so not too upset with it.
Preds fan from Hamilton, Ontario!
Anyone a little worried for Geoffrion in Montreal? He’s going to face unreal, unfair expectations because of his name there
I stand with Tuukka Rask in his fight for the starting job
The first thoughts that ran through my head right after “Hell YES DP!!!”. Hopefully the new atmosphere will jump start him. I can’t do anything but wish him well from here on out and hope he has a fantastic career.
by TitanPredBearFan on Feb 17, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
If he has a fantastic career we’ll all be lamenting the fact we traded him for a rental d-man—unless, of course, the Preds win the Cup, which ain’t very likely.
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by shoot the puck on Feb 17, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
I won't be lamenting anything
This is a “What have you done for me lately?” league and Boomer hasn’t done anything for Nashville to put them in the successful position the Preds find themselves in right now. Gill fills a HUGE need for the squad RIGHT NOW opposed to what Boomer may or may not have been able to do for the team in (what was looking like) the distant future.
by TitanPredBearFan on Feb 17, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Ehh kind of of but really his dad got it worse. Danny Geoffrion was a top 10 pick and Bernie was the actual coach of the team. Then the media started saying there was favoritism for his son and a bunch of stuff and it really took a toll on Danny. I think the Montreal press will be a little more reserved this time, plus Blake isn’t a goal scorer like his dad was. One thing I’m going to miss about Blake is the ability to win faceoffs. Even when Smithson was on the ice with him Blake got the nod to go to the circle, clearly showing he was our best guy in the regard
The nod to Geffrion at the dot was based on his dominant hand, not his ability. His under 47% success rate in no way made him “our best guy in the regard”
From a human standpoint, I’m very concerned about that for him. Franson had a hard time in Toronto. I can’t even imagine what Geoffrion’s gonna face.
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"I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber
Maybe I'm way off
But it seems like the Hal Gill was added specifically for matchup reasons. Having Suter and Weber is all well and good, but a team like Vancouver can exploit a lack of depth on the blueline. Adding Gill would address the playoff need against deep offensive teams like Vancouver, Detroit, and San Jose.
Plus, I think it puts Nashville in the ring as a buyer, so teams looking to sell maybe give GMDP a call before another team…?
You know you're a Wild fan if Spam Whoopie Gerald-buns comes up in conversation
Mikael Granlund = Suomi Savior
they've been keeping him to very low minutes recently
by Herzausstein on Feb 17, 2012 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
He's actually been scratched lately
some MTL fans are wondering if he’s becoming a perma-scratch because of some trade in the works…
by TitanPredBearFan on Feb 17, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
So he decided to give them
Two guys that are barely AHL caliber and a late 2nd for someone with proven playoff success and fills a glaring need?
I wonder how...
Dustin Boyd is doing right now!
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Anyone who has watched the Preds play a team with physical forwards understands the need for a Hal Gill type player. This fills a need.
I believe this was a move taking into consideration who our first round opponent may be.. If he improves our PK slightly and we keep scoring by committee, we will be difficult to play….If we add the right two way forward, we become the team no one wants to play.
Hate the price, but you must break a few eggs to make an omlette.
My hockey team is better than your hockey team
You misspelled omelette.....
….but I’ma-let it slide.
Love that joke.
Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 17, 2012 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
Said “yes! Yes, yes” when I read the text from Preds message service that we got Gill. Then I got on here and see that we gave up Blake and the thought that sucks.
Grossman is only worth 2 picks and Gill is worth two prospects and a puck? Huh?
by wrandsw on Feb 17, 2012 5:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
My take...
We needed some size for a run, someone to work with Klien on the left. I hate that it had to be Boomer, but at the end of the day, I am happy he is getting a breath of fresh air with the Habs. If he could play here, that is the best place for him.
I am sad that my Geoffrion 3rd jersey is no longer fashionable. (although it hasn’t been much in style of late)
ok thoughts after letting the emotions subside
Good trade. Filled a hole well had and didnt lose team chemistry. Sucks to let blake go wont deny that but he had a cult following because he was ours in every sence grew up here played here drafted to hometown team, really cool amd he had that hat trick for us. That being said if there was one team i wanted him to go to it was montréal because of the family ties. I really wish him well and hope he makes it up cause his granddad and great granddad will be skating right there next to him. Go get’em bam bam!
by Shadow23 on Feb 17, 2012 6:41 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
to infinity and beyond..
totally get the whole playoff push and agree we would get pushed around on the blue line to some degree in a playoff series when sutes/webs come off the ice. my question is this – older guy. what is the likelihood he signs in the off season and ends his career here. will this guy be willing to play 2-3 years here at a reasonable price? still have nightmares over the whole brendan witt deal.
by predsbelonginblue on Feb 17, 2012 7:25 PM EST reply actions
"Gill Traded To Nashville" is old news...
Gill’s been sitting 8 rows in front of us all year. Even had Grant with him Tuesday night!
Now that’s out of the way (I know it’s corny;had to do it), Gill(type) is a puzzle piece that’s required to make conference finals. We are getting closer to filling in the obvious holes. NOW LET’S KICK THE WINGS A$$!
by HoptownPred on Feb 17, 2012 7:28 PM EST via mobile reply actions
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