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Hurricanes 4, Predators 3: Crime Doesn't Pay

February 28, 2012; Raleigh, NC, USA; Carolina Hurricanes left wing Jussi Jokinen (36) points to the net for a goal for teammate Tim Brent (not shown) in  front of Nashville Predators goalie Anders Lindback (39) during the 2nd period at the RBC center. Mandatory Credit: James Guillory-US PRESSWIRE

The Nashville Predators looked like a classic "team which had played the night before" against the Carolina Hurricanes, getting out-shot by a 2-to-1 margin during the first two periods en route to a 4-3 loss. Anders Lindback was decent, but hardly outstanding in turning aside 29 of 33 Hurricanes shots. Tonight's loss dropped his record to 2-7-0.

Perhaps the real killer, however, was a steady dose of penalties which disrupted the Preds' ability to roll their lines and led to two power play goals for Carolina. Nashville was shorthanded 6 times, an uncharacteristically high number for a team which normally shows discipline in staying out of the box.

Follow after the jump for your highlights and breakdown...

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Cue the video (might take 30-45 minutes post-game to work):

Your random observations:

  • How good was it to see Craig Smith score a goal? If it seems like forever since his last one, you're close. It was January 24 at Chicago. Halischuk's wraparound is a low-percentage play, but it drew the attention of the defense and when the puck squirted loose, Honey Badger was in good position to bury it.
  • After that, however, the Hurricanes carried the bulk of the play in the first period, which included some nasty gaffes by the Preds in their own zone. Unforced turnovers led to a breakaway opportunity, and David Legwand's Jack Hillen's penalty late in the period.
  • How hot is Colin Wilson? The Predators continued to stink up the joint through the first half of the second period, getting out-shot 9-0, until Willy got a shot from the faceoff dot, then followed up his own rebound to score his 4th goal in six games.
  • Is there anything more nauseating than a quick power play goal against? Two of those in the second period were particularly demoralizing.
  • Overall, it just seemed like a replay from very early this season, when the Preds couldn't even break out of their own zone. I can't remember exactly where I heard this (Pete Weber on the 1st Quarter this morning?) but apparently Brent Peterson noted it, saying if was coaching an opponent he'd have the D pinch down all the time, because Nashville is having such trouble along the boards.
  • It was nice to see a more spirited effort in the third period, but they'd already dug themselves a hole, and those dramatics comebacks just don't always work out.
  • With an assist on Bourque's goal, Jordin Tootoo has 8 helpers in the last 10 games. That comes after the previous 10 games, in which he didn't record a single point. Go figure...

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Disappointing

Back to back + Eastern Conference team + Lindy = Loss

by virgil trucks on Feb 28, 2012 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

You don’t have to pretend you’re someone else, Klein. I know it’s you. You don’t have to plug yourself anymore, ok? I admit that I’ve missed you these past two games. Are you happy now?!

by emzee on Feb 28, 2012 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

It's that kind of stat...

That bothers me the most, they are peaking, and we are, apparently, not.

by LurkerTeach on Feb 28, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s the opposite of the past few years where we pwnd the EC.

by OddManRush on Feb 28, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather own the west

And worry about the east when we get to the Stanley Cup Finals.

by musamonster on Feb 29, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

But Lindback is not NHL material. He looks shaky all the time. He couldn’t stop rain with an Umbrella. We are screwed if something happens to Rinne

by DHack on Feb 28, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

On the break away goal

he made the save then flopped around till it went in

by IG-PRED8 on Feb 28, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

This was his 7th start all year.

SEVENTH. If he played more, he would be much more confortable. This is indeed a problem going into the playoffs. Anders needs to get some more playing time, and if that means going back down to Milwaukee, so be it. He’s a phenomenal goalie, but he hasn’t had enough playing time this year.

Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Feb 28, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Everybody forgets how well he played last season

Especially when he filled in for Peks for 2 stretches when he was hurt

by TSCinSFO on Feb 28, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

He was brilliant.

Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Feb 28, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

No one forgot...

Did eveyone forget that Steve Mason of the BJ’s had one great rookie year… no, but he stinks now. Lindback isn’t a 1b type of goalie. Maybe in a few years, if he gets lots of minutes, but with Rinne at 7mil a year for the next 7 years he really shouldn’t see much ice time. .We need an old vet who came come in and play 15 to 20 games and win 10 and give us a shot in the others.

by DHack on Feb 28, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

And how do you propose to pay this “old vet”? You want to drop another 2.5 mil on the goalie position? The guy didn’t play bad, our mistakes hurt more because you don’t have a superhuman bailing you out like Rinne.

by 901predfan on Feb 29, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Preds

have been playing mediocre in front of Lindy all year……and he has played to sparingly to truly be judged. They should be rotating him in and out of Milwaukee if they arent going to play him more often. at least while he doesnt have to clear waivers.

by jeffery101y on Feb 29, 2012 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Well

Hedburg makes1.2mil
Ellis 1.5
JS Giguere 1.2
Bernier 1.2
Budaj 1.15
Garon 1.3
So there is plenty of cap room between the market for a backup Vet say 1.2mil and Lindback’s 875k. 325k is not going to pop the cap. If they would rotate him down and get some experience he probably would benfit greatly but its a little late this year.

by DHack on Feb 29, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

this!

What's that jacket, Margiela?

by JBoogie22 on Feb 28, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

The people in front of Lindback didn’t play well, so . . . When it’s passes into the skates, into the middle, bad clears, no hustle — it happens.

If Radulov comes back, then none of this stuff will matter . . .

by Mike Cr on Feb 28, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Trotz has overworked Rinne and underworked Lindback all season long. That will bite us in the end. Lindback should have about 12 starts by now.

Hello. My name is Bob and I do not know the Beatles.

by djzielin on Feb 29, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank you.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
I liked the Jeremy Lin story the first time when it was called the Martin St. Louis story.--@BoltProspects
"I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber

by CAustin on Feb 29, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

You're welcome.

Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Feb 29, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, so much for the “wear gold for a win” streak……

TN Sports fan in Hoosier Country....

by Evanbio on Feb 28, 2012 9:57 PM EST reply actions  

Ugly, ugly dog poop tonight.

Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Feb 28, 2012 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

watched this game on a delay, So I just finished

The Preds Looked really bad, against a bad team. Granted the hurricanes seem to have everything go right. Losses like this makes you wonder how deep in the playoffs we can go.

by IG-PRED8 on Feb 28, 2012 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

i wouldn't put too much into this game

Lindback’s not going to be our playoff goalie, the team was late getting in, so they had to cancel morning skate, we had to adjust to a new forward. There were a few factors that played into it, plus a non-offsides call that lead to a Canes goal. Still a bad game, but don’t put a whole lot of stock in this one.

What's that jacket, Margiela?

by JBoogie22 on Feb 28, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Oops! You made almost all the same points I did. I really have to start reading down farther before posting…

by LuvthePreds on Feb 28, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you doubt that the Red Wings will go far in the playoffs? Did you see their last game before the all-star break? There’s not a team that doesn’t occasionally have a game like this. Back-to-back. Working in a new player. Klein out. Backup goalie in who hasn’t played in a long time. Someone even said that they sat on the tarmac three hours last night.

Stuff happens.

by LuvthePreds on Feb 28, 2012 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

to be completely fair

nobody outside Raleigh seems to have noticed, but the Hurricanes are 11-2-3 at home since mid-December. They’ve beaten the Bruins twice and the Canucks once at home (the Bruins are perhaps a bad example, since that’s about the only team that Carolina can beat away. Canes took the season series 4-0-0). People assume that because the Canes were a terrible hockey team for half the season and remain underwhelming on the road, they should be able to waltz into the RBC and snag two easy points. They’ve been a tougher out than they look. Especially when you’re playing a backup goalie on the second night of a back-to-back.

I hope this doesn’t come across as patronizing or defensive, but I’ve seen a lot of Carolina this year after moving from Tennessee over the summer, and I continue being surprised every time I walk out of the RBC after a Canes win. But it keeps happening. Against everybody. Except the Islanders. Undefeated against the Bruins, winless against the Islanders. Go figure.

If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
Rocky Top Talk

by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 29, 2012 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

So what did you think of the new guys?

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
I liked the Jeremy Lin story the first time when it was called the Martin St. Louis story.--@BoltProspects
"I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber

by CAustin on Feb 29, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Bright side? Wilson had a great game. I about lost it when he scored off of his own rebound. He’s so great. He makes up ice passes to himself, hustles, and is SO hard to get off of the puck. I’m really, really glad we didn’t give him up.

Oh, Bourque was working it, too.

by emzee on Feb 28, 2012 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

True.

Willy was a beast tonight, as was Gabby. Holy crap was Gabby carrying this entire team.

Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Feb 28, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d be watching the game thinking, “Hey, we’re looking alright,” and surprise, surprise, Bourque was out on the ice.

by emzee on Feb 28, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Yuuuuup.

That’s the story of my night.

Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Feb 28, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Hate to B!tch about the officiating

but I’m going to B!tch about the officiating….Gawd it was bad. The phantom hooking calls and 2 Canes offsides on the call against Weber were unreal. Granted our PK sucked after the 1st 2 calls. Bourqe looked great at times. And our record with Klein out of the line up is below .500 for you Klein bashers.

by TSCinSFO on Feb 28, 2012 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

I feel Complaining about the officiating

is well warranted. Not much the predators PK can do about a puck bouncing off a shoulder and right to the goal line.

by IG-PRED8 on Feb 28, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

the Canes get more phantom power plays than any team I've seen

I have no idea what causes it, but it happens.

If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
Rocky Top Talk

by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 29, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

the Canes get more phantom power plays than any team I've seen

I have no idea what causes it, but it happens.

If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
Rocky Top Talk

by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 29, 2012 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

A thought so nice, you said it twice? :p

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
I liked the Jeremy Lin story the first time when it was called the Martin St. Louis story.--@BoltProspects
"I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber

by CAustin on Feb 29, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

The ‘team which had played the night before’ didn’t really do much playing the night before. Even Coach said they didn’t. So really, it’s two nights running they haven’t played.

"I am you, you are me, and we are all together" Beatles

by amyinsparta on Feb 28, 2012 10:23 PM EST reply actions  

I have to admit

I loved the win last night but I didn’t think they deserved to win. They bounces all just went their way and we had lady luck on our side on multiple plays. Tonight was bad, they looked tired but also just confused and nonchalant. No me gusta.

by Smilodon fatalis on Feb 28, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, you're right!

Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Feb 28, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, at least one of my teams won.

Canes keep alive their faint playoff chances…..but they could’ve let us get a point though.

We’ve won some games this season (the last Stars game would be one) where we got a fatigued team that played the night before. That’s pretty much what happened here, IMO. Plus, Lindy clearly needs some more starts to get sharper. Canes playing much better hockey these days than during the coach Mo era…….thank you Capt, Kirk!

Defense keeps you in games........offense wins them!

by Grizzledbear on Feb 28, 2012 10:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

i think most of us agree it was the inability to stay out of the box, bad puck possession, bad badcheck, and fatigue

we just looked flat tonight. i think we’ll be okay for Saturday.

What's that jacket, Margiela?

by JBoogie22 on Feb 28, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

.

Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Feb 28, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Off topic...

but this GIF is very well put together… its very seamless, its almost like Bill is sitting there on Camera for real… just shaking his head over and over… just like me…

by Preds of State on Feb 29, 2012 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

It is extremely good, yeah.

I can’t tell where it loops/

Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Feb 29, 2012 2:55 AM EST up reply actions  

you know why? It is done as forward, then reverse, forward and reverse….

Hello. My name is Bob and I do not know the Beatles.

by djzielin on Feb 29, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

(so are you, Bob)

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
I liked the Jeremy Lin story the first time when it was called the Martin St. Louis story.--@BoltProspects
"I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber

by CAustin on Feb 29, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I see it moving now!

Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Feb 29, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

hehe.

World Wide Weber.
There is no tenderness or humanity in fanaticism.
~Joe Strummer

by cisar on Feb 29, 2012 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel bad for Anders! It seems like every time he starts he gets the worse from everybody else on the team

60% of the time it works every time

by Creeping Death on Feb 28, 2012 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed.

Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Feb 28, 2012 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

even Trotzy noted that. It’s like they assume that when Lindy’s in the net, they aren’t expected to win.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
I liked the Jeremy Lin story the first time when it was called the Martin St. Louis story.--@BoltProspects
"I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber

by CAustin on Feb 29, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

PHX – VAN in a SO. Points for everyone! (sigh.)

by LuvthePreds on Feb 28, 2012 11:42 PM EST reply actions  

not happy about scratching Yip

He didn’t play that well Monday ok, but no one else did either really. I though when the game started they should have scratched Smith, but then he scored, then I thought Hali, but LEGGY stunk up the joint again, and it happens more and more frequently with him. I really think its time for Leggy to sit especially with Gaustad coming in. He will never learn to pay attention and he barely makes up for it with the points he does put up. It’s time.

by Saber-tooth on Feb 28, 2012 11:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I get so freakin’ pissed at Legwand for being annoyingly lackadaisical and think about how I wish he would just go away, and then he goes and scores a significant goal or makes some play that rocked it. >:|

by emzee on Feb 28, 2012 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh man, you just described my feelings towards Legwand perfectly.

Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Feb 29, 2012 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

During the Kings game I basically said what’s in my comment above about him being lackadaisical, wishing we could get rid of him, etc. Like a second later, he got an assist. And then another. I was like, “NOOOO! STOP DOING THIS TO ME!”

by emzee on Feb 29, 2012 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I get so pissed at the Lindback bashers

3 of his loses were AFTER Peks got pulled and he did mop up duty. 1 of his wins was after Peks got pulled and he was stellar in the comeback at Vancouver. He’s also got thrown to the wolves of the PO contenders games vs the Eastern Conf. when Peks should of started those games IMO. No doubt he needs some games with the Ads to keep him from getting rusty. And is it just me, or do I see a lack of effort vs the East Conf teams on the road? It almost seems that the Preds don’t think those games are as important as the Western Conf games.

by TSCinSFO on Feb 29, 2012 1:03 AM EST reply actions  

Lindback doesn’t get the loss unless the Preds equalled the number of goals Rinne gave up earlier in those mop up duties.

Hello. My name is Bob and I do not know the Beatles.

by djzielin on Feb 29, 2012 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Lindy gets the loss/win if he’s on the ice for the game-winning goal, if that’s what you mean.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
I liked the Jeremy Lin story the first time when it was called the Martin St. Louis story.--@BoltProspects
"I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber

by CAustin on Feb 29, 2012 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Bad coaching decision

Most of the time when the Preds rush their new acquisitions into the lineup, we end up losing. Not only does it obviously upset the chemistry between the guys that were working together, but I’m sure it puts everyone, at least in the lower lines, on edge. As a result, it seems to me they try to hard and you get what happens tonight. In my opinion, Trotz would have been much better off putting in AK46 and possibly Gaustad in on Sat., after these guys have had more of a chance to practice with the other guys.

by GRidner on Feb 29, 2012 1:19 AM EST reply actions  

This was a classical situation for a stinker.

Back-to-back game. Some inconveniences during travel/game preps. A team weak on the paper, but on a small (home) roll. Big expectations. Maybe a small dose too much confidence… and when things don’t run as you like, you’ll get easily frustrated resulting in more time in the penalty box than usual. And, voilà, you have a loss.

Good thing: It happened against an eastern foe. These kind of games can actually have a positive effect: You definately don’t want to let this happen again :-)

@Lindback: Young goalies aren’t meant for backup roles with long stretches without match practice, like Lindback this season. Young goalies need (successful) games to get into a rhythm, they’re streaky, and if they feel they have to prove something, chances are big, that they’ll be over-motivated and that’s never a good thing for a goalie. I really like Lindback’s potential, but at this point (with Rinne carrying yeoman’s workload), the club might be better off with a steady 30+ backup guy who’s been there and done that.

by CGBrulez on Feb 29, 2012 4:01 AM EST reply actions  

Lindback

He did fine, considering he hasn’t played for weeks on end and the team in front of him just looked confused the whole time… although I heard you could see his 5-hole from space last night.
Is there a reason he isn’t the Admirals starter all the time until we need him? Is there some sort of waiver issue that would prevent us from sending him down to get some play time and then recalling him when we want him to start?
I think he’s got real potential, but riding the bench isn’t helping his development at all it seems.

There's only two kinds of teams in the NHL: Predators and prey.

by Predanooga on Feb 29, 2012 8:20 AM EST reply actions  

He's not on a 2 way contract and we've sent him down b4 and brought Pickard up for backup

Just a few games at a time though when we know Peks will get at least 2 days between games. As I said above, I think he’s been thrown to the wolves in a few games and done mop up duty after Peks was pulled and that’s why his record is 2-7. Hockey goalie stats should be like baseball starting pitchers that are responsible for the loss if they get pulled when behind and no decision if the relieve bails the team out with a win.

by TSCinSFO on Feb 29, 2012 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Oops...my bad

I meant more like baseball starting pitchers stats. Just work graveyard and seeing double now

by TSCinSFO on Feb 29, 2012 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

see above for how goalie wins and losses work.

and what does a 2way contract have anything to do with sending him down or not, other than what his pay would be in Milwaukee?

Hello. My name is Bob and I do not know the Beatles.

by djzielin on Feb 29, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Nothing. He’s here because you need a guy to sit there and back up your starter. Jeremy Smith, bless his heart, isn’t at that point right now.

IMO, the time for the two to do a real switch was Jan or Feb. If they can get Lindy a weekend with Milwaukee, great, but a playoff push is the wrong time to be flipping your goaltending around.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
I liked the Jeremy Lin story the first time when it was called the Martin St. Louis story.--@BoltProspects
"I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber

by CAustin on Feb 29, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

Just answering Predanooga question even if it didn’t come out like I meant it since I was working graveyard. I think his 2-7 record is misleading considering who he’s faced. We’ve got some tough back to backs coming up in March and the time to get Lindy some net time with the Ads was in Jan/Feb. Though there is a couple openings to get a couple/few games up there.

by TSCinSFO on Feb 29, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I can see that, but how many times has he had to relieve Rinne? Like once all season? And if Smith is so bad, then just leave Rinne in. I’m with you, I think the time to do it has passed, but geeze poor Lindy looked rusty.

There's only two kinds of teams in the NHL: Predators and prey.

by Predanooga on Feb 29, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Rinne’s been pulled 4 times, all before Christmas. Smith’s not bad. He’s just not quite … “ripe” yet. It couldn’t hurt him to get some NHL playing/practice time, but that’s not likely barring injury.

One thing I think folks have forgotten was that Pekka wasn’t PEKKA for a number of years. Throughout the 2009-10 season (two years ago) Pekka was routinely being pulled in favor of Dan Ellis, but he was also getting playing time. You simply can’t expect a kid (Lindback) to play less than 30 games over two seasons and still be as good as Pekka is now. The way that Pekka has become so good so consistently has warped our expectations somewhat.

I said it during the summer and I’ll say it again. Lindback needed 20-25 starts. He isn’t going to get them, but that’s what he needed. Development vs. wins. It’s actually not a horrible problem to have.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
I liked the Jeremy Lin story the first time when it was called the Martin St. Louis story.--@BoltProspects
"I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber

by CAustin on Feb 29, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Practice for today cancelled.

Give the guys a rest I guess.

Beer... Now there's a temporary solution.-Homer Simpson

by Josiah2729 on Feb 29, 2012 10:41 AM EST reply actions  

We deservered to lose but we should have won.

The way the preds played in the first two periods was pretty poor overall but if the officials would get their head out of their ass we would have won that game. People have already noted the off sides right before Webbers penalty so I’ll skip that one. How about the off sides called when Sergei was carrying the puck over with Erat and fisher in tow. They called off sides on that one and the puck was clearly 2 feet over the blue line before any of the preds entered the zone. Then there was the slap shot into the zone by Webber with about a minute to play from center ice with three preds breaking in. They called off sides again and the puck was clearly almost behind the goal line before a pred entered the zone.

The hooking penalty on Fisher really threw me. He never pulled on the player even a little. As soon as the play started he went for a stick lift and his stick was chickenwinged and he let go. The canes player then skated for about 4 seconds before letting the stick fall to the ice. No clue how Fisher could be called for that one.

Lindy played well imo. He looked a bit shaky at times but honestly what should we expect. He has hardly played at all this season.

by Preds4tw on Feb 29, 2012 10:53 AM EST reply actions  

Trotz gave away another one.

So, we just added two new guys to the lineup, one of which played last night. Some line juggling, you know, the usual. So how does he settle things down a little? He throws Lindback, a 2-7 goalie in there to right the ship. That was the stupidest thing he’s done all year. Trotz gave that game away, so I don’t wanna hear any more crap from him about how the players give certain games away like he did a couple weeks ago. Furthermore, its not like Rinne has another game to play….til Saturday. There was no excuse for that.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 29, 2012 11:42 AM EST reply actions  

Rinne can’t play every game and when you have a back to back you are going to rest your number one goalie. You could question if he should have started Lindy last night against LA but do you think we would have won that game without Rinne and that was a west game so I can understand why Trotz played it the way he did.

by Preds4tw on Feb 29, 2012 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Rinne plays back to back all the time.

I don’t buy it.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 29, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think Rinne has ever played back to back.

by Preds4tw on Feb 29, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know for certain (i.e., I can't give you the dates)...

But I’m about 99.9% sure he has.

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by davisca on Feb 29, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I have his game log up just now

He played 10/7 and 10/8 (full games), 12/22 and 12/23 (pulled in 2nd game), 1/23 and 1/24 (full games),

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by CAustin on Feb 29, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

And my 0.01% makes it 100%

With CAustin’s input making it 101%.

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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 29, 2012 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I stand corrected…Rinne played 4 back to backs last season and lost 3 out of those 4 games.

by Preds4tw on Feb 29, 2012 12:37 PM EST reply actions  

That just proves that the team needs to play better in front of whoever it is. It’s the penalties and mistakes that killed them. Not Trotz or Lindy.

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by DonBorvio on Feb 29, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. 6 penalties? SIX???

Terrible. Absolutely terrible. If they knew the refs were calling it close (and clearly they were), they should have actively tried to be more careful in their play. That’s just how hockey is.

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by davisca on Feb 29, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Save it for your next romance novel.

Rinne is our guy and Lindback isn’t very good this year. He could have and should have played last night. Especially with new additions coming on board. Dumb move by Trotz…..again.

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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 29, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Whatever helps you sleep at night bud.

But I ain’t going to blame trying to rest Peks for the playoffs. Lindy didn’t take 6 penalties.

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by DonBorvio on Feb 29, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure having last night off will pay off when the playoffs start in a month anda half.

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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 29, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m sorry, but your name gives away what a HUGE homer you are. did you expect rinne to play all 82 games this season? the team played sloppy and undisciplined. lindy didn’t take six penalties and cause a breakaway.

by predmama on Feb 29, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

and for the record, i hope lindy plays again on saturday. he needs more ice time and the team needs to learn to play in front of him. they are always to reliant on pekka bailing them out

by predmama on Feb 29, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd sit Shea Weber before I sat Rinne!

How’s that? lol.

Pekka is our best player by far and he needs to be in net all the time. 3 games in 4 nights? Fine play Lindback in the middle game. But the second of a back to back where we don’t play for another four days? That’s suicidal.

And no, we don’t have to learn to play in front of Lindback. Lindback needs to learn to play better behind the rest of the team. Frankly, he should be in Milwaukee and we call him up when we plan on resting Pekka cause he’s clearly rusty (at best) right now.

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by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 29, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW........

I would never play a goalie on back to back games, simply due to injuries being more likely to happen when playing back to back. Speaking from my own goalie playing experience.

Defense keeps you in games........offense wins them!

by Grizzledbear on Mar 1, 2012 12:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Bingo

I’d say our bigger problem this year has been not playing Lindback enough. Frankly, I thought we should have re-signed Dekanich and let him be the backup this year, giving Lindback full-time starter’s work in Milwaukee.

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by Dirk Hoag on Mar 1, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Dex has been healthy for a grand total of 5 AHL games this season. He injured himself in warmups. I love the guy, but this has been one unlucky season for him.

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by CAustin on Mar 1, 2012 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, concussion, groin, and ankle injuries iirc? Brutal season. Dude needs to win the lottery or something next year lol.

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by DonBorvio on Mar 1, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, I’m saying we should have re-signed him over the summer. You can’t predict injury situations, obviously.

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by Dirk Hoag on Mar 1, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Well going on that, they couldn’t predict Lindy not playing at the same level he did last season. And if he were doing that , we wouldn’t be having this conversation b/c everyone would be fine with not having Dex.

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by CAustin on Mar 1, 2012 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

No

My point at the time (which still remains a concern) is that Lindback’s development would be better served by getting regular game action for a while, whereas Dex had that experience, and was ready for NHL backup duty.

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by Dirk Hoag on Mar 1, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I am concerned about Lindy's development, as I said last summer.

But looking at what was known in July of 2011, I can understand the decision not to sign a 5th goaltender, pushing Smith, Engren, and Pickard backwards. I don’t think of that as a big mistake. I think that things didn’t work out ideally up here, but they did pretty well down there. Smith has certainly benefited and has gotten better.

FWIW, it is possible that had Lindy put up better numbers earlier this season he would have gotten more playing time this season. Have no idea why he hasn’t been sent to MIL for more than a weekend.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
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by CAustin on Mar 1, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I would have traded Pickard while he still had some of that “1st-round pick” glow. Now he just smells like ECHL.

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by Dirk Hoag on Mar 1, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh.

Such a minor thing in the scheme of things, IMO. I’m so not bothered either by giving the guy the chance to live up to his potential or the loss of whatever minor leaguer the Preds might possibly have gotten for him two years ago when he was an actual asset.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
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by CAustin on Mar 2, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

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