Tuesday afternoon notes: Time To Go For It?
by Dirk Hoag on Feb 7, 2012 5:26 PM EST
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Have the Nashville Predators worked their way into the class of the legitimate Stanley Cup contenders, to the point where the organization's thinking should be to potentially sacrifice some long-term concerns for maximizing their chances at winning it all this spring?
That's what one prominent hockey reporter considers this afternoon...
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metrics be damned!!!
go for it! I will gladly mortgage the future for a Stanley Cup today. After all, it is this not the American way ??
People may shoot me down for this, but...
I haven’t read the accompanying article (I’m in a beak during class), but in regards to risking it all to win this spring, I am one of those people that hates teams like that (see, to a certain degree, Chicago a couple years ago). I would so much rather build a solid team that will be a contender for YEARS rather than a one-shot wonder (see: Carolina). I don’t want to be Carolina, a team that wins the cup then sucks it up every year after. I dunno exactly what the article said, so maybe I’m addressing totally different things, but maybe I did exactly hit his main points. I just saw the heading, and had to get this out there.
Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
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by davisca on Feb 7, 2012 5:56 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I am sure fans in Buffalo would argue with that, they would probably trade in all of thier super bowl apperances for a win.
I will take a few seasons as a has been rather than the frustrating never was.
But do you REALLY want to be a Carolina?? No one ever really took them seriously, even during that year they won the cup! And no one takes them seriously NOW either. I would rather have other teams take the Preds a as serious contender, and a team that truly worked their way up to win the cup, and was able to contend seriously for years, than have the Preds be a one hit wonder and leave people saying, “HA! Remember the year NASHVILLE won the cup?! What an outlier THAT year was…” Because while I don’t know if that’s what other people think about Carolina, but I know I kinda do…
Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
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I think I'd rather experience the feeling of a Stanley Cup win before I die
Then see countless seasons of regular season success
Preds fan from Hamilton, Ontario!
The Yzerman plan. I agree.
‘Tis better by far to be Detroit than Carolina. I’d love for the Preds to be a perennial contender.
However, that doesn’t mean turn down good opportunities. (And I don’t think that’s what davisca was saying). It means don’t pull the trigger just to hear a “bang!”
R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
"You don’t motivate people; you activate something in them that already exists." -Guy Boucher
" I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber
agreed
I believe it is better to develop a team that is capable of getting to the conference finals any given year.
At that point it becomes easier to acquire the 1 piece that puts the team over the top in wins the cup.
That being said i believe this may be the time in Poile’s plans that requires, at least the beginning of, an influx of top tier talent. The defense, goaltending, bottom lines, and the majority of the top lines are present, and capable. Last time this is when Poile brought in Sully, followed by Kariya, and the rest when available.
Keys to the game: GA<GF
You are EXACTLY correct.
(And I don’t think that’s what davisca was saying). It means don’t pull the trigger just to hear a "bang!"
Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
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I actually don’t see anything wrong with what Chicago did. The point of the game is to win the Stanley Cup, not to make regular conference final appearances, or even Stanley Cup Finals appearances. If you have to suck for a season or two after, well, those will be very early draft picks you get in compensation.
I’m definitely on the “Go for it” side, especially if we could get away with just giving up draft picks and players in Milwaukee.
My friend and I had a HUUUUUUGE debate over this exact subject a few years ago (specifically talking about Chicago).
He was on the “The Point is to Win The Trophy Every Team Wants to Win, Regardless of The Cost” side.
I was on the “Yes, Win the Trophy Every Team Wants to Win, But Do it Not With a One-Time Bang, but With a Well-Planned Attack” side.
You can argue either one. We argued for hours. It’s just a matter of your opinion, and here’s mine: PLEEEEEASE don’t let Nashville become Carolina!!! Let Nashville become a Detroit-the-Good!
Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
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You do realize, don’t you, that Chicago’s Stanley Cup winning team was built on the back of their first overall draft picks and not the other way around?
R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
"You don’t motivate people; you activate something in them that already exists." -Guy Boucher
" I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber
I don't think getting one scorer will be "mortgaging the future"
You may give up a hot prospect or some picks, but the Predators are a long way from “salary cap jail.”
I think if they could add a top 3 scorer it would go a LONG way in leaded them toward the Cup.
Beer... Now there's a temporary solution.-Homer Simpson
The only way to go for it is to pick up an elite scorer……the same thing half the NHL teams want for a cup run.
My hockey team is better than your hockey team
Well, off to the tire barn!!
Make sure you guys make fun of Loungo for me. He will creep me out in person.
Going for it does not necessarily mortgage the future besides one year toward the bottom gets you toward the top of the draft pool a very valuable commodity I think you have to spend a bit to make a bit so getting something to take us to the next level will pay off in other dividends in the long run
When does rent-a-player ever work?
Not a rhetorical question….Ray Bourque…maybe, but one could argue that he gravy trained off an already loaded team.
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