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Thursday's notes: 2013 Winter Classic in the Big House

The talk of the hockey world this morning is the worst-kept secret of the last few weeks, that the 2013 NHL Winter Classic will be held at Michigan Stadium in Ann Arbor, featuring the Detroit Red Wings and the Toronto Maple Leafs. You can find the whole scoop over at NHL.com, but in the meantime, there's lots of other things to talk about this morning.

After the jump, we have one slightly disgruntled Predator, another who is finally delivering on the potential we've seen for so long, and one more who's just happy to be here...

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Nashville Predators News

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Somebody needs to make sure that Fish doesn't go into the wrong dressing room tonight.

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A tribute to the Calgary keeper on his 300th career win, which includes the video of a mind-blowing save late in the game.

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Should be a cool venue for the Classic. It is an iconic venue, and they will pack the fans in like sardines. That says alot coming from a Buckeye.

by Tide311 on Feb 9, 2012 11:32 AM EST reply actions  

Agree

However, the tv ratings are what we should be keeping an eye on. If the ratings are significantly lower for this game I doubt we see another Canadian team in the Winter Classic anytime soon.

by Predaceous on Feb 9, 2012 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Just think of all the Red Wings fans and Americans cheering against Toronto. Then think about all the hockey fans and Canadians that just want to see the Wings lose. There’s the potential for massive ratings.

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by 3DLink on Feb 9, 2012 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah...

…this is a mini-olympics. Go USA.

I refuse to make any audible congratulatory sounds during the game for the Red Wings. However, I will only nod in approval of a Canadian team being scored on. Silently. Almost begrudgingly.

We'll miss you Belak...

Go Predators!

by Poiju on Feb 9, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll be cheering for Toronto, sorry.

"We want to keep beating them...to break their pride and break their season...is a huge thing for us." - David Legwand

by DonBorvio on Feb 9, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

count me on team Toronto for that one as well. We’ll be in a points race with the Wings, and an EC team beating them can only be a good thing

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by 3DLink on Feb 9, 2012 2:34 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

LEAFNATION

Preds fan from Hamilton, Ontario!

by Klein(er) on Feb 9, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

The ONLY time I will cheer for the Red Wings...

…is when it helps the Preds in the standings. Otherwise I wish them nothing but pain and suffering. I’ll be hoping for the Wings’ total humiliation on New Years’ Day 2013.

- History will be made. Our time is MEOW. -

by Smashville HockeyCat on Feb 9, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure about Canadian networks

I know that Canada doesn’t get NBC or NBC Sports, so the only way Canadians can watch the game is if TSN or CBC or someone like that picks up the game. Does anyone know for sure if the Canadian networks pick up the Winter Classic?

You know you're a Wild fan if Spam Whoopie Gerald-buns comes up in conversation
Regressing all the way back to high school hockey.
Mikael Granlund = Suomi Savior

by JDesthubert on Feb 9, 2012 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no idea. Did you get it this year?

Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Feb 9, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Found out that CBC dos pick the game up.
And hey, Minnesota may be north, but we still get NBC. I didn’t watch the game, as I detest Philly and New York sports teams, but I get NBC.

You know you're a Wild fan if Spam Whoopie Gerald-buns comes up in conversation
Regressing all the way back to high school hockey.
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by JDesthubert on Feb 9, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That’s good!

Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Feb 9, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Believe it—every fan in southern Ontario will be watching the game on WGRZ-TV Channel 2 from Buffalo.

by Hockey Hillbilly on Feb 9, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Or WDIV-TV Channel 4 from Detroit.

by Hockey Hillbilly on Feb 9, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

We do get the game on CBC

We do in fact have NBC. We used to get games on NBC but not this season because of the new channel…NBC Sports

Preds fan from Hamilton, Ontario!

by Klein(er) on Feb 9, 2012 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

That's How They Need To Market That Game

I don’t think a lot of Americans care one iota about the Canadian teams, and the only way they’ll watch it is if they think some sort of national pride is on the line. Even if that national pride is invented. It’ll be interesting to see how the NHL markets the game.. or if they market it at all.

by Predaceous on Feb 9, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

TV ratings shouldn't be too much of a problem...

… these are two big time rivals.

Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.

by djzielin on Feb 9, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, man

what a shocking surprise. At least they announced it now rather than trying to get people excited about something they’ve known for months.

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by 3DLink on Feb 9, 2012 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

Well, since they can't play football...........

……..maybe it would make for a good ice hockey rink?

Go Bucks!

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 9, 2012 1:26 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Haha! The Big House really was a let down in atmosphere when I went there and seating was awful. Stand up, try and sit down and be at least a seat over…was in 97 though(Thanks Stanley Jackson) where Charles Woodson single handedly beat Ohio State. . Guess I am spoiled with the Shoe and Bryant Denny, etc in terms of loud atmosphere

I’d love to see the classic in an place like LSU’s Death Valley environment…but won’t happen due to obvious restrictions.

by Tide311 on Feb 9, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not the Shoe?

That’d be a great venue. Too bad the Blue Jackets suck as bad as they do.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 9, 2012 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

it is a hell of a lot louder now with the new press boxes.

Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.

by djzielin on Feb 9, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

It has been 810 days since Ohio State has beaten the University of Michigan.

Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.

by djzielin on Feb 9, 2012 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

In what? Swimming?

Did you just wake up from a coma or something? We’re talking about football here.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 9, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

So am I.

November 21, 2009.

Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.

by djzielin on Feb 9, 2012 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, that's right.

Pryor didn’t beat them 37-7 two years ago. Yeah, I didn’t see that at all. It never happened, dontcha know?

We own you. The only way M comes close is when the NCAA suspends half our team (rightfully so) and forces us to go with a coach that plays Woody Hayes ball (3 yds and a cloud of dust). Meyer will set the earth on its appropriate axis again.

Damn, that was a great game last year though wasn’t it? I couldn’t believe the way it ended when the TD got called back and we had a shot to win. And so was the 2006 game. Great rivalry and I’m happy to see M playing well for the first time in 5+ years…that’s good for college football.

But you’re no Ohio State.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 9, 2012 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t believe I actually agreed with one of your comments on here…once. Never again! GO BLUE!

by Griz-ATL on Feb 9, 2012 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

To Hell with you then.

And I always wondered who was the guy too dumb to spell out full words in his screen name. That explains a lot!

:)

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 9, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

How do you get a Michigan grad off your doorstep?

You pay him for the pizza.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 9, 2012 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

By the way I'm kidding.

Just in case there’s any confusion.

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 9, 2012 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

no confusion at all. It comes with the territory. And I don’t deliver pizza’s. But if you want to Biggie size your value meal, I’m your guy. lol

by Griz-ATL on Feb 9, 2012 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 9, 2012 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

And if you need your brain operated on, I'm yours!

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 9, 2012 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

the 1990s were the exact opposite. I don’t think OSU could buy a win. :)

Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.

by djzielin on Feb 9, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

And OSU still is nowhere near UM in head to head record.

Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.

by djzielin on Feb 9, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Congratulations

Now go buy a Bruce Springsteen record and “try and recapture a little of them glory years.”

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 10, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

811 days… :)

Yeah, it's halftime America... and our second half is about to begin.

by djzielin on Feb 10, 2012 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

One lucky game :P

Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is where the Stanley Cup can be found.

by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Feb 11, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

That article about the loss to Vancouver...

…may be a little more “The Sky Is Falling” than I can agree with. For sure, the Canucks have won too many games in our barn, but that game had a different feel than the ones we played in the playoffs. Two bad moments unfortunately turned into two goals – but for the most part, the Preds played solidly enough to win.

Shootouts are essentially a crap shoot. The Preds had the momentum going into OT, and had that been playoff game, I would have given them the edge…or maybe this is just blatant homerism? Still, this team is different, and the sky is certainly not falling.

- History will be made. Our time is MEOW. -

by Smashville HockeyCat on Feb 9, 2012 1:34 PM EST reply actions  

I agree

That game felt completely different. Usually, when the Preds play Vancouver, I feel like the Canucks have 20 guys on the ice at all times and we’re struggling just to keep possession of the puck. This game did feel different. I thought the Preds controlled the tempo and took charge of the game more often than not. It’s a good trend I think.

by Predaceous on Feb 9, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we were great other than the 3rd period. Yikes was that one rough… but they still didn’t score during that period, so I guess that says something. I do think it was a solid game, though. Had Pekka not let in a couple of those goals in the 1st (there were two relatively soft ones), I think we could have won that one without blinking.

Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
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by davisca on Feb 9, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree with the Cat here. That game was different. I think we’re competing better against those guys, and the SOG is an indicator.

On the Marty article, I think we’re looking at what he can do when healthy. And that’s not an insignificant factor in the team’s success this year. We’ve been lucky with injuries. That’s a bit of a change from recent years.

by el pucko on Feb 9, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Knock on cheaply manufactured particle board/laminate wood imitation...

(It’s all I have available with the desk in front of me)

- History will be made. Our time is MEOW. -

by Smashville HockeyCat on Feb 9, 2012 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

It might not be possible

but the winter classic should not be announced until after most of the UFA period is over. Detroit/Toronto will have a slight advantage at bringing in UFA that want to play in the winter classic. (Think Suter, you know the predators will never play in one)

by IG-PRED8 on Feb 9, 2012 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

Poile said if there was any chance of Classic coming to Nashville, it would be at Neyland Stadium.

But does Nashville have the weather to support that?

Preds fan from Hamilton, Ontario!

by Klein(er) on Feb 9, 2012 4:56 PM EST reply actions  

Uh, no. I think Josh Cooper asked that question in his Q&A with Bettman when you he was in NYC covering the Rangers-Isles swing. His response was a diplomatic perhaps at best, but it screams no chance to me. ASG is better for this market.

by el pucko on Feb 9, 2012 5:07 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

In that interview Bettman said no to playing in Nashville

But said yes to Nashville playing in the Classic at another venue as the visiting team.

by TitanPredBearFan on Feb 9, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

I’m happy to do that! We don’t have the weather to support it.

Hands go uuppp..... AND THEY STAY THERE!
-nashvillepredators-

by davisca on Feb 9, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Did they move it to Nashville?

Local UT fans will love this!

Beer... Now there's a temporary solution.-Homer Simpson

by Josiah2729 on Feb 9, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

that makes no sense

Why play it there? So it looks empty? So parking can be a nightmare? Play it at the coliseum and add in some seats in the endzone then a dozen snow blowers up top for effect and we will out draw the titans lmao

by Shadow23 on Feb 9, 2012 6:23 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

playing in Nashville at Neyland Stadium is impossible

Do you mean LP Field?

hockey connoisseur. t-shirt addict. not famous. nerd.

by Shawn Kehoe on Feb 9, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

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